privilege as a meme

doug henwood?

man, poor stalin, dude is hated on by just about everyone but now it's official, he's a "no"

For the “NO” list, I asked people to send me the names of “cis men, living and dead, who make [your] blood boil: misogynists, paternalists, abusers, rapists, rape apologists … people whom you find toxic, people whose physical presence or intellectual influence in left spaces … hinders or forecloses our collective possibilities for transformation, liberation, and making total destroy.”

search for "making total destroy"

About 26,300 results (0.31 seconds)

that's a new phrase to me

lonely dudebro marxist just thinking baout making total destroy

lol the results are some youtubes of guys playing slap bass and then this:

http://anoki.wikispaces.com/Make+Total+Destroy

i think i might have found today's rabbit hole, thanks everyone.

this guy is mentioned in those facebook comments somewhere:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Avakian

"He has continually published writings on Marxism and Maoism for over 35 years and is viewed by many inside and outside the communist movement as the foremost Maoist revolutionary in the U.S.[citation needed]"

lollll

he's a big ol' no fyi

that's a new phrase to me

― goole, Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:48 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dude that introduced me to this phrase (variant 'make total destroy') insisted it is v popular in far left circles but he's the only person i've ever heard use it

is it like a metal thing or a lolcat thing?

lol that 'yes/no' list is such an on the nose indicator of the amount of maturity involved in these kinds of discourse

I can't tell if the divide on that yes/no image is supposed to be top/bottom or left/right, the design is just so bad

is it like a metal thing or a lolcat thing?

― druhilla (k3vin k.), Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:04 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

comes out of like black metal i guess

ty for 'brocialism' btw.

I finally read the list and LOL

"People that I hate and need to go get fucked! Chairman Mao, Charlemagne, Keith Richards, My asshole brother AND his girlfriend, Pol Pol Pot, Orville Redenbocker, Charlton Heston, Louis XVI, Chairopractors..."

do ppl know 'manarchism/manarchists' broadly

guys you are totally brosilencing those list makers.

Yes, I am familiar with 'manarchy' etc.

Is this the YMCA
Or is this the PUA
Or is this the MRA
etc

"Pol Pol Pot" sounds like the punchline to a grim knock-knock joke.

The exercise that started this is very poorly thought out, but jesus christ that facebook thread. If there is too much #whitemantears in one place, do they all drown?

doug henwood's fb feed is just the greatest source of leftist academic intrigue and squabbling ever

http://gawker.com/the-privilege-tournament-1377171054

"Pol Pol Pot" sounds like the punchline to a grim knock-knock joke.

Shimmy shimmy pol pol pot,
shimmy shimmy pot

pretty funny, gawker

i think my favorite part of the YES/NO thing is putting "Pol Pot" just above "Macktivists"

the gawker thing is essentially the poll i wanted to start on ilx but was too afraid of getting fp'd into oblivion

hay fever, but real bad

steroidal

AIDS/CANCER

whatevs, that kind of thing, you know, super sick but not lupus, or that thing where you think you're already dead

rolling my eyes out of my head

the reception to that in my internet corner has been varied and completely unintuitive

queer muslims high fiving, SWMs calling for the author's byline on a pike

yr corner of the internet seems a little confused

you're telling me

no one's pointed out the best comment

A white man made the game; set up the categories and tells us to fight it out. Sounds about right.

no one wins bc the most unprivileged group at the end can't be particularly happy ab that designation; it reminds me of the time my parents went to buy an RV and the salesperson asked them w/ "genuine curiosity" how it feels to be in the most despised group of ppl in the world. they didn't buy an RV from that person, obvs.

"yay i'm the most abjected!"

i mean

right

haha and your prize is the absolute objective sovereignty of your critical gaze. enjoy that!

no one's pointed out the best comment

A white man made the game; set up the categories and tells us to fight it out. Sounds about right.

― HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:42 PM Bookmark

Just about sums it up.

I reckon that RV guy needs to finesse his sales technique a little.

Cast my votes and so far the only outcome that's really hard for me to accept is bisexual << (is less priviledged than) lesbian. Bi (man) << gay man maybe, I couldn't tell you about that, but bi (female) clearly have it better than lesbian women.

So you assume that bisexual men don't exist?

i think what she's saying is that as a woman she can't speak for the experience of bi men in comparison to gay men?

i guess the bi-less-privileged-than-lesbian thing might have its roots in the way that people treat the bis like they are faking it? bi people as greedy, confused, inauthentic, attention-seeking; bi women as "actually straight", bi men as "actually gay", etc. so rather than people thinking "they are more privileged because it is super easy to pass under the radar if you're bi" they think "they are less privileged because people think their sexuality doesn't exist."

privilege oneupmanship!! so many levels!!

Read that as onionesque satire tbh didnt think ppl would yknow continue voting all the way thru

Read that as onionesque satire tbh didnt think ppl would yknow continue voting all the way thru

Of course they would, c'mon

The article doesn't specify which gender, but I have filled in bi (woman) because they are matched against lesbian (woman) and this is the prelims, so we should be looking along only one axis of privilege at a time. I know that lots of people deny that bi men exist, including possibly the person who made this survey without including a bi (men) VS gay (men) bracket. I don;t think it makes sense to lump bisexual men and bisexual women together.

So yeah c sharp major had it right - I'm not gonna speak for bi men because I don't know whether being erased from the mainstream <i>and</i> the subculture is worse than all the negative stereotypes and discrimination gay men have to deal with.

I think most people in the US acknowledge that bi women exist, though. They might be viewed as promiscuous or unstable or unfeminine/unsentimental (though note that lots of men view those traits in a positive way, too) but they aren't, for instance, incarcerated for crimes at 4x the rate of the general population the way lesbian women are. That's why I think bi(woman) << lesbian.

Obviously I'm taking this too seriously.