DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

why the fuck do war-loving anti-socialist Torybots in disguise even want to be in the Labour oh never mind

nothing especially new on top of that suzy, undisguised corporatist thru & thru

actual exchange in Umunna fringe event:

Q from audience member who said she was a young party member but had surely just come to the wrong conference, paraphrased: I'm disillusioned about what Labour are going to do to my aspirations, if I'm successful they'll just take half of it away in tax

[rumblings from audience]

Umunna, with unseemly enthusiasm: Oh, no! We WANT you to make your first million!

(This on top of a speech in which he'd repeatedly conflated "betterment" with "earning more than your parents". Fuckwit)

plus he literally defended that Mandelson filthy rich comment by saying "oh what no one reports is that the second half of the sentence was "as long as you pay taxes""

That's just fairly standard NuLab True Believer stuff really, surprised anyone expected anything different of him.

i mean i always knew blunkett was a confused moralistic authoritarian moron, but jesus.

I could have sworn I just read that he actually compared online pornography to the rise of the Nazis, but I can only assume that I just haven't woken up yet.

Q from audience member who said she was a young party member but had surely just come to the wrong conference, paraphrased: I'm disillusioned about what Labour are going to do to my aspirations, if I'm successful they'll just take half of it away in tax

lol sounds legit

xp well, you see, online porn made people scared of diversity and then they had no choice but to become fascists, that was how the weimar republic collapsed

Oh wow Sodom & Gomorrah AND Nazi Germany. I'm trying to think about what might be the third bit of that trifecta and coming up blank.

I'm disillusioned about what Labour are going to do to my aspirations, if I'm successful they'll just take half of it away in tax

funnily enough their refusal to do this is why I'm hugely disillusioned by labour

Nazi fetsih porn became so widespread in the Weimar republic that eventually it became cool to be a Nazi.

Miliband's "freeze energy bills until 2017" policy is all well and good until energy firms decide en-masse to get all their price rises in at once, just before the cut-off.

"Robin Hood and the outlaws - they were called that because they were outside the law - that was not a sustainable position in the 13th Century and it's not a sustainable position now."

Helen Goodman there, shadow minister for media etc

"Robin Hood, Robin Hood, riding through the glen
Robin Hood, Robin Hood, with his band of unsustainable and financially unviable men.."

Striking imagery:

2) Brown used to rehearse his speeches while McBride shouted abuse at him

This was done when he first became prime minister, to prepare him for hostile crowds. Favourite heckles were: "You stole my pension, Brown!", "You're a bigger bastard that Blair!" and "Where's the gold, Brown?", which particularly infuriated him. Sometimes he could not help shouting back.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/shortcuts/2013/sep/24/damian-mcbride-10-things-book-labour

#10 is pretty damning.

the evening news is full of spokespeople for big businesses bleating like crazy, EMil must've said something good

"You're a bigger bastard that Blair!" is my new favourite insult

those pretend insults are way tamer than what Brown must've experienced irl

looking forward to the movie from the people that brought us The King's Speech tho

Fuck sake yeah, where's the stuff about him being mentally unstable and on drugs, you know like Andrew Marr laid on him?

Or not caring about dead soldiers and going out of his way to actively insult their mothers, like the Sun accused him of

got vision's of EMil's spin coach locking him in a room bellowing "A DECOND DLASS DETURN DO DOTTINGHAM, DLEASE" at him

is he going to be charged with assault, and if not why not?

Iain Dale quizzed over Brighton scuffle.

The Daily Mail, which has been railing against high energy prices and the energy companies for as long as I can remember, was utterly wrongfooted by Miliband's speech. Whoever the columnist was just started ranting about how terrible it was that he'd pledged to do what they'd been campaigning for all along.

srsly since last night Radio 4 has been nothing but energy company PRs making increasingly hysterical threats to leave the country, kill the first-born, blow up the sun etc

this week's conference was about as a socialist as a Jim Davidson gig but the trolling of the rich has been A1

Credit to them this is about the most populist policy imaginable. Energy companies and rabid free marketeers are about the only people who will care.

Possibly the more significant move is Ed Balls offering up manifesto pledges to the OBR is a smart move as well in that he knows full well the OBR won't do it and it will look like the government have something to hide.

The Daily Mail, which has been railing against high energy prices and the energy companies for as long as I can remember, was utterly wrongfooted by Miliband's speech. Whoever the columnist was just started ranting about how terrible it was that he'd pledged to do what they'd been campaigning for all along.

I just spotted their front cover in the supermarket and it was hilarious. the headline is all, like, "they are threatening boosting minimum wage! and threatening keeping energy prices from rising!", and I'm thinking, you'd have to do some pretty impressive journalistic jujitsu (they don't) or have a particularly addled readership (they do) to argue those as bad things, surely!

Credit to them this is about the most populist policy imaginable. Energy companies and rabid free marketeers are about the only people who will care.

Hopefully they're doing a sort of switcheroo here, re-directing the GBP's righteous fury at welfare recipients to someone more deserving of their ire, corporations/ cartels/ capitalist scumbags in general... hopefully

An energy tycoon plans next move against Miliband, yesterday

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/simpsons-mr-burns-blocks-out-the-sun1-640x353.jpg

is he going to be charged with assault, and if not why not?

Iain Dale quizzed over Brighton scuffle.

realistically what would he get if this went to court? or would it end up as a caution? if it could somehow wreck his career then some persuasive folks need to take placard dude out for a nice meal and get it sorted. the blog post was the most pomous repugnant thing i've seen all week - proud he'd knocked around an older smaller harmless man and his dog. guess he wouldn't get prison and he'd warp it to some marytr campaign but if it could somehow mess with his life by banning him from going to certain places or something then it'd be so worth it

No way would that lead to a prison sentence, more's the pity

also, damian mcbride really does have the face he deserves. a nauseating shiny sweaty shifty-eyed headblob, disgusting looking man to match his disgusting deeds. i know alastair campbell's deemed an a1 scrote and all that but his rant against mcbride & co on bbc5 the other night was some stand-up-and-cheer stuff. that guy can speak

does his subsequent blog post break the law at all? whole unsavoury proud rant about how he shoved about an old man in a public place. just wondering if the poor-person equivalent - say someone roughing up someone outside a nightclub then bragging afterwards on facebook - would receive lighter/heavier punishment

cheering for Campbell attacking McBride is the vanity of vanishingly small differences

Campbell's probably done shit that's as bad or worse than McBride (lol Iraq etc) but you get the sense that what's really fuelling his anger is McBride's decision to sell bits of his book to the Mail on the eve of the Labour conference. That would be unforgiveable crossing over to the other side for Campbell who's about as tribal as they get.

for a guy who helped drive the stake thru the heart Campbell is weirdly attached to the idea of the Labour party, whereas yr McBrides strike me as agents of fortune who happened to wind up in that government, but they're all still cunts

This is cool, though: 'Det Sgt Stephen French said: "A man was exercising his right to protest in a public place when this incident took place.'

not just the mcbride stuff dear NV, the rest of his interview is fascinating because... ah fuck it

Mr Dale, 50, who has admitted common assault, apologised on his blog, saying he had "behaved in a frankly idiotic way".

'Absurd bravado'

He added: "I want to apologise and say sorry to Stuart Holmes, who is a passionate campaigner and well known to everyone who attends party conferences and was perfectly entitled to do as he did on Tuesday in trying to get attention for his causes."

"It was totally out of character for me to react to him in the way I did."

Mr Dale, of Biteback Publishers and from Pembury in Kent, added: "I also want to apologise for the blogpost I wrote after the incident.

"It was full of absurd bravado and in the heat of the moment I behaved in a frankly idiotic way.

"I have embarrassed not only myself but my family and my work colleagues and I apologise to them."

I think the law has had a quiet word in his ear, to say the least...

Shat himself, so he did

aye

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/09/27/sling-yer-hook/

o u brits

“Frazer removed the outfit before appearing before the judge at Belfast Magistrates’ Court for an update on his case.”

lightweight

http://www.indymedia.ie/article/74511

nice guy, too

In 2004 Frazer invited to South Armagh Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America, an advocate of citizen's militias who had written approvingly of their use against insurgencies in Central America and the Philippines.[38]

Frazer came to wider attention in October 2005 when he got into a public argument with a Redemptorist priest, Father Alec Reid. Frazer made remarks that Catholics had butchered Protestants during the Troubles. Father Reid likened unionist treatment of Catholics to the treatment of the Jews by the Nazis. Reid later apologised for the remark, saying he had lost his temper. Frazer reported Reid to the police for incitement to hatred,[39] but no legal action ensued.

In October 2011 he attended a protest in Pomeroy against the use of rubble from a demolished police station to level out the playing field of the local GAA club, which hosts an annual tug-of-war event in memory of Seamus Woods, an IRA member killed by the premature explosion of a mortar while attacking the station.[40] The station was the target of many such IRA attacks during The Troubles.[41] Frazer stated that "moving the rubble to the GAA club would cause a lot of heartache for many families. The unionist population is small in Pomeroy and they certainly feel betrayed."[40]

After attending a Sinn Féin conference in November 2011 in Newry he reacted furiously to an apology by Ulster Unionist Party MLA John McCallister for "unionist failings" in the past. Frazer stated that people were "appalled" by McCallister's remarks.[42]

In 2012 when the city council in Florence, Italy, announced its intention to name a street in honour of the late IRA member and hunger striker Bobby Sands, Frazer condemned the move and stated that he wanted a meeting with the council to discuss the issue.[43]

In May 2012, after seeing the Italian flag being flown as part of a cultural event held in Donaghmore's St Patrick's Primary School and mistaking it for the Irish Tricolour, Frazer accused the school for 4-11 year old children of being "the junior headquarters of SF/IRA youth", stating on Facebook that "I wounder do they also train the children in how to use weapons, for it seems they can do what they wont.[sic]" Concerned for the safety of students and the school's reputation, teachers informed police of the accusations and photographs of the school posted by Frazer were later removed from Facebook.[44]

Frazer expressed outrage after his car was stopped and searched by the PSNI in October 2012 under anti-terror laws. He announced his intention to report the incident to his solicitor and the Police Ombudsman. The incident occurred outside Whitecross and Frazer's wallet and documents were taken away for examination. Unknown to police, he made a voice recording on his mobile phone. He had taken photos of the cars the police were in but police removed the camera from Frazer and deleted the images. Police provided no explanation to Frazer as to why the stop and search procedure was undertaken.[45]

Following the 2013 horse meat contamination in burgers scandal Frazer gave an interview to The University Times in which he claimed horse meat had actually been introduced to the food chain by the IRA five years before the scandal broke. He also claimed that republicans were behind "old fat cows that are 30 months old" being sold for food before adding that "a blind eye has been turned to it" and that "this is the kind of thing that's going on that we're sick of".[46] However no evidence emerged to support this claim.

Frazer's car was set on fire at his home outside Markethill in the early hours of 10 February 2013. Frazer stated that he was asleep inside the house at the time. A passing police patrol noticed the fire but the car was destroyed. Frazer blamed republicans for the incident and claimed to have received a death threat a few hours before the attack.[47]

Flag Protests[edit source | edit]On 3 January 2013 Frazer said that he had contacted An Garda Síochána to inform them that he and some followers would hold a protest in Dublin over the decision by Belfast City Council to reduce the number of days the Union Flag flew above Belfast City Hall.[48][49] Shortly thereafter he became spokesman of the "interim committee" of the Ulster People's Forum, one of a number of loyalist umbrella groups established to co-ordinate the protests.[50]

On 27 February 2013, Willie Frazer was arrested by the PSNI in his home village of Markethill, for questioning in relation to organising and participating in illegal parades and protests which were centred on the flags issue. Jamie Bryson, who along with Frazer was one of the most prominent spokespersons for the flag protesters, was also later arrested in Bangor after going on the run for several days. Frazer was charged with three counts of participating in unnotified public processions and obstruction of traffic in a public place.[51][52] Frazer was subsequently released on bail. On 16 July 2013, he was rearrested for alleged breach of bail conditions.[53]

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"...See if a Paki comes from India and kills a Provo? I'm going to shake his hand."[6]

(wondering why the "Paki" wouldn't come from Pakistan)