which one? The one about the movie being terrifying is lol wrong.
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― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 September 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
i find wendy sympathetic in the movie (and, again, really don't buy the 'jack is crazy from the start' criticism).
king's got every right to voice his opinion -- it was his book, after all -- but it is kind of peculiar that he never seems to bother bashing any of the other 90,000 shitty movies that have been made from his work.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link
most of which have "stephen king's..." in huge letters before the title.
One glance at the list of his top 10 favorite adaptations from his own work confirms: he loves the shitty movies based on his work.
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link
Worst of Stephen King's 10 favorite adaptations of his own fiction
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link
i know this thread is mostly about the movie but this is a thoughtful review of DOCTOR SLEEP, the sequel to the shining--
http://www.vulture.com/2013/09/book-review-stephen-kings-doctor-sleep.html?mid=twitter_vulture
― ian, Monday, 23 September 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link
can't believe he didn't even include 'carrie'! crazy old guy.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link
Here's hoping King gets forced to deal with Haneke or Von Trier or some other high-profile asshole director for the movie version of Dr. Sleep.
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
about the characterisations of jack and wendy. i love the hell out of the movie and don't seek to tear it down, but wendy in particular is nothing like the book wendy (although i wouldn't call her a 'misogynistic character').
― obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 23 September 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link
i agree with The Shining being his best stab at lit fic tbh
he's always been quite vocal about preferring shitty film adaptations, but he's been a shitty writer since the early-mid 80s so no surp really
― Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 September 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link
http://www.salon.com/2013/10/01/what_stanley_kubrick_got_wrong_about_the_shining/
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link
the faithful tend to incant the words “genius” and “masterpiece” and “great” over and over again, as if those terms constituted the workings of an argument rather than its conclusion.
Any year that didn't see the release of Room 237 and this might've almost passed the smell test.
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link
i think that article is completely wrong, almost line by line, right down to the line about kubrick's supposed "i'm-a-genius stance" (which applies way more to king these days imo).
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 02:17 (ten years ago) link
I wish Salon would just stop.
― Darin, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 03:29 (ten years ago) link
it finaly hit me that "dull boy" vs. shining and danny's "talent" play off of Jack's own artistic insecurities.
― ryan, Saturday, December 1, 2012 11:44 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
danny is also "a very willful boy," playing into the same or similar insecurities
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 17 October 2013 04:16 (ten years ago) link
http://roadtrippers.kinja.com/real-hotel-from-the-shining-is-digging-up-its-pet-cemet-1452618677
This will end well.
― carl agatha, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
Sequel is on the stands, there's an excerpt in the new issue of Cemetery Dance
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
On highways across America, a tribe of people called The True Knot travel in search of sustenance. They look harmless - mostly old, lots of polyester, and married to their RVs. But as Dan Torrance knows, and spunky twelve-year-old Abra Stone learns, The True Knot are quasi-immortal, living off the “steam” that children with the “shining” produce when they are slowly tortured to death.
oh brother
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:40 (ten years ago) link
the true NOT morelike
― stylings (Matt P), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
spunky!
― When you popped Apollonia, it kinda popped my brain. (weatheringdaleson), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link
Just finished watching Room 237.
o_O
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link
hmmm, someone among us went to a hotel
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 03:17 (ten years ago) link
42 photos from the filming of The Shining:
http://imgur.com/a/Ur9Zo
― Darin, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 03:19 (ten years ago) link
^ nice one. Film critic Alexander Walker v. recognisable in the second picture of the twins.
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
Here you go, Morbs. Merry fucking Festivus.
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/david-cronenberg-says-stanley-kubrick-didnt-understand-horror-and-that-the-shining-is-not-a-great-film-20131104
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Monday, 4 November 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link
well, it's not an election, hon. Hasn't at least one of SK's associates been quoted as saying the blockbuster success of The Exorcist was a factor in his search for a horror project after Barry Lyndon?
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 November 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link
You're right. The Shining's status as a classic is no longer up for a vote.
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Monday, 4 November 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
lol
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Monday, 4 November 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link
Amazing that a movie about an abusive husband who tries to kill his family with an axe has misogynistic tendencies.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 November 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
boy that next cronenberg sounds like a winner
― balls, Monday, 4 November 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
“In a weird way, although he’s revered as a high-level cinematic artist, I think he was much more commercial-minded and was looking for stuff that would click and that he could get financed," Cronenberg opined. "I think he was very obsessed with that, to an extent that I’m not. Or that Bergman or Fellini were.”
this is pretty self-serving (and ridiculous).
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
said it before but wendy near-singlehandedly saves her life and her son's life in this movie. the misogyny criticism seems to rest on the notion that she screams and cries too much while doing it. if only there was a word for the belief that a woman's emotions make her stupid and weak.
― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:14 (ten years ago) link
Masculinity iirc
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link
yeah there's always been a sense in which those criticisms seem to fault Wendy for not turning into Linda Hamilton or something. like "i find this female character weak and annoying" therefore "this movie is misogynist." but she's totally heroic as dlh points out! just not in the action hero way.
― ryan, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link
i mean in reality like 99% of people in that situation, men or women, would find themselves weak-kneed and hysterical too. but she pulls through!
― ryan, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link
he's still capable of good stuff but Carpenter is right when he says Cronenberg's crawled up is his own ass a bit too much. (otoh Carpenter is clearly no longer capable of good stuff himself)
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link
I would've co-signed that as of a year ago, but Cosmopolis took me by surprise. (Not that that movie offers any compelling evidence that Cronenberg is NOT up his own ass, obv, but that it's a more compelling form of self-parody than History of Violence or Eastern Promises.)
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
you've got to be just about the only person I've heard say they liked that movie. I haven't seen it (I'll probably get around to it at some point), but I liked his previous three well enough to varying degrees. I still laugh about Viggo's delivery of "that's a very Protestant remark".
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
If I got to have a 40-year directorial career, the first thing I would do is plan the expansion of my rectum so I could move in.
Cosmopolis and A Dangerous Method are DC's best 1-2 in awhile.
I don't partic find The Shining misogynist.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link
I'm only interested in subletting my rectum.
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
Cronenberg's crawled up is his own ass a bit too much.
I was about to say, sounds like a scene from one of his movies.
― pplains, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
(if anyone makes a funnier movie about the Great Recession than Cosmopolis, lmk.)
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
Cosmopolis was pretty good i thought. it loses me every time in the last scene though.
― ryan, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
I don't think The Shining is misogynist, either. Jack clearly doesn't have a particularly high opinion of women or Wendy, but he's very much the bad guy. And yeah, Wendy wins, even if she is a noodle arm with a bat.
― carl agatha, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
Feels like the documentary that Vivian Kubrick shot abt the making of The Shining - where Kubrick really loses his temper w/ Shelly Duvall at one point - has bled into ppl's perception of the film, of Duvall being bullied and belittled
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 4 November 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
also: bros worshiping jack
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Monday, 4 November 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
agreethe movie itself never struck me as misogynist
also this is otm said it before but wendy near-singlehandedly saves her life and her son's life in this movie. the misogyny criticism seems to rest on the notion that she screams and cries too much while doing it. if only there was a word for the belief that a woman's emotions make her stupid and weak.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 4 November 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
seemed like the poster of jack making the jack face through the hole in the doorway was second only to travis bickle practicing his aim when it came to dorm room movie posters (travolta and Sam Jackson in pulp fiction up there too.)
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 4 November 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link
Scarface
― carl agatha, Monday, 4 November 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link
Showed this to the girlfriend last night for the first time. Have we ever mentioned how all of Wendy Carlos' spooky music cues seemed to have been completely nicked by "Ghostbusters?"
Also, if you stream this from Amazon, you get the slightly extended version.
― An Android Pug of Some Kind? (kingfish), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link