while i wait for this new television album, i'm going to drink bottle after bottle of fred smith's artisanal wine - http://www.cereghinosmith.com/
― tylerw, Friday, 20 September 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link
it is utterly through-composed except for the solos
Yeah, totally. I remember bringing one of their songs to my guitar teacher, who spent a few minutes on it before basically telling totally awful me, yeah, sorry, no way, this is completely, elaborately through-composed and would take us hours.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 September 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYtj6FAdVBc
― tylerw, Friday, 20 September 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link
That kid with the green Mosrite or whatever is my new hero.
― Marlo Poco (Phil D.), Friday, 20 September 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
short Verlaine interviews a-poppin'!
http://www.beat.com.au/music/televisionhttp://www.theaustralian.com.au/arts/review/creating-new-waves/story-fn9n8gph-1226684923004http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/features/37044/We_interviewed_Televisions_Tom_Verlaine_it_didnt_go_so_well
There's even some valuable nuggets here and there. One particularly striking bit where he describes how he used to write in the early TV days. And, of course, lots of cussedness, bloody-minded evasion and sphinxery.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 September 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link
lol at that last one...
― tylerw, Friday, 27 September 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link
Yeah he was pretty hard on that kid in his clamlike way
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 September 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link
That kid was a pretty shitty interviewer, tbh
― THIZZ VAN LEER @_@ (lpz), Saturday, 28 September 2013 06:16 (ten years ago) link
He got a little out of Tom on his(the kid's) pet interests
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 28 September 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link
Wonder if Verlaine prefers Fearless or Witness
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link
another one - a verlaine media blitz!kind of cute that he actually says nice things about the teenage band doing marquee moonhttp://themusic.com.au/interviews/all/2013/09/04/television-tom-verlaine/19031/Recently he was surprised by a YouTube link sent to him by Television bass player Fred Smith. The footage featured a band of teenagers covering Television’s title track from the 1977 album Marquee Moon. “What’s incredible is that it’s the best version I’ve ever heard anybody play,” Verlaine continues. “The bass player loses it a bit but the two guitar players, for being that young, play it really good. The singer is a girl, which is really strange; I don’t know what to make of the girl’s voice. But I thought, ‘Geez, these two guitar guys really got this thing down’.”
― tylerw, Monday, 30 September 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link
There he mentions the piano thing again, him taking the right hand part and RL taking the left hand. That strikes me as a v revealing piece of process trivia. Has he talked abt that before this recent spate of articles?
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Monday, 30 September 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
mm, would like that youtube link.
― Mark G, Monday, 30 September 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link
scroll up!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:30 (ten years ago) link
he has talked about that composition technique in regards to "venus" i think, just figuring out the interlocking guitar parts.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:31 (ten years ago) link
did an ilxor say hi to me at the Athens show? (bl0unt??) if so, sorry dude, i was kinda freaked out b/c i hadn't been in athens in 3 years & i didn't recognize you. didn't realize till after i'd walked away that it might have been someone from on here.
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Friday, 8 November 2013 06:54 (ten years ago) link
Excellent show, I even enjoyed the endless tuning .... "Psychotic Reaction" was not what I was expecting as an encore!
― Brad C., Friday, 8 November 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
Awesome.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 8 November 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link
Wow to that encore.
Is blOunt still here on ilx?
― curmudgeon, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
was playing the roof of the georgia theatre last week and was soooo bummed that i was not going to see them. i dunno, the clips/recordings of the band post-Lloyd have sounded pretty solid, almost as though Verlaine is stepping up a bit more, as opposed to just letting Lloyd do the heavy lifting.
― tylerw, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
Psycho Reaction was the encore at the 2004 Irving Plaza shows
― Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
he is now known as "balls" xxp
― sleeve, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
xp they've been doing it pretty much since the beginning -- i think verlaine has said it's his favorite rock song.
― tylerw, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
ps, this 76 show has been around for a while, but this version is apparently speed corrected/remastered for what it's worth - http://dbs-repercussion.blogspot.com/2013/11/tele-vision-new-york-city-december-1977.html
― tylerw, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link
1976, despite what the URL says
Thanks
― curmudgeon, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link
Here's another clue for you allThe Georgian was balls
― The Killer Inside Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
Richard Lloyd went to Stuyvesant? How did I not know this? Did you know, tylerw?
― Pazz & Jop 1280 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 November 2013 06:00 (ten years ago) link
Or was this just a rumor started by Lester Bangs and Dave Marsh?
― Pazz & Jop 1280 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 November 2013 06:03 (ten years ago) link
two shows in brooklyn thanksgiving weekend 11/29 and 11/30. Tickets on sale friday. AYEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link
happy for you but also ;-( for me
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
Man, I'm really on the fence about trying to see them. But if Lloyd was still in the band, I wouldn't think twice about going.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link
I went to both Tom Verlaine Band shows at Bowery Ballroom in whenever that was (07?) and it was transcendent. This is the same group except with ficca. Think of it this way, smith and rip are the anchors now, the landscape guys; verlaine and ficca are the wildcards.
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link
there are at least 10 youtubes up from 2013 performances to enter into evidence.
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link
esp recommend the argentina Guiding Light.
yeah, regardless of what it's called, seeing verlaine/ficca/smith onstage together is going to be worth it
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link
there haven't been any Television shows without Ficca, have there? certainly hope not. i would go for sure if i wasn't going there this weekend for WFMU.
― nerve_pylon, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
i don't think Ficca has ever been absent. nerve_pylon, I got an email a few months back from a dude who knows you, talking about tapes he might have of Television way back when...any movement on that? Let's make it happen.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
let's email jon lewis on that when someth happens
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link
;)
BTW verlaine's drummer on that last solo album and tour has since passed away. Sad. He was a big guy but did not look v old.
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link
oh no kidding? that is a bummer.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
I heard a set with Jimmy Rip the other day from around the other day presumably. Just doesn't seem to have the same hypnotic magic as the band did with Lloyd. Could be a couple of things including being 35 years since the more hypnotic material was recorded, but I think they still had some of that when they came back in 92 and possibly the last Lloyd tour. Shame, I should have made sure I saw them back when i had a chance to with Lloyd.
Well i have the live sets from the 70s anyway. Shame there isn't more visual footage of them from then though.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link
ERRATUM: the guiding light on youtube i mentioned is san francisco, not buenos aires
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
So I don't know how to make a playlist on youtube but yesterday I added all the videos of 2013 TV performances to my favorites list. About half are from the south american dates from this spring and half are from the dates of the last few weeks, particularly san francisco. My youtube user name is jpl725 so if you go to my favorites list these should be the first dozen or so videos you see.
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 21 November 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
cool, thanks, Jon! listening to this new Rhys Chatham LP and there are some verrrrrry Television-y moments on the first track.
― tylerw, Thursday, 21 November 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
Just spent 50 minutes trying to get tickets on ticketmaster's site and now it looks like both nights are sold out ;_;
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 November 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link
ouch!
― sleeve, Friday, 22 November 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link
depressed
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 November 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
duuuuude, no! where is the show, is it in a tiny place or something?
― tylerw, Friday, 22 November 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link