Help, I'm trapped in an ivory tower! Or "what the fuck am i getting myself into with this academia stuff"

congratulations, inevitable contingencies aside you seem like a good work guy who's richly deserving of this.

WAY TO GO MAN

(and if your university works anything like mine, the ad hoc committee will be only humanities people)

congrats man!

huge congratulations, if your teaching is half as good as your writing your students are lucky indeed

Question for Euler, who mentioned on another thread that he was thinking of teaching a seminar on a topic he doesn't know well. How do you prepare for that? I guess re-read and perhaps read more, of course - but any particular strategies that you use to relate your reading to your teaching strategies?

it's a grad seminar, so I'll make it clear day 1 that it'll all be work in progress. that takes one edge off.

the subject will be an author I don't know well (Spinoza) on a topic I do know well (the "metaphysical" grounding of the inferential structure of mafemathiks) so I know what questions I'm looking for the text to shed light on. we'll work through the text each week knowing what our eyes should be kept upon.

I've done this a bunch of times, though, and usually in undergrad classes. my main "trick" is to make sure I'm psyched enough about the topics I choose to teach that I'll be able to base class time around what I take to be the "big questions" animating my interest, and then try to walk the students through the ways in which the text sheds light on those questions. I can never prep too long ahead of class, since so much of my prep work is getting excited about those animating questions, and that excitement can slip away if I prep a couple of days ahead of time. of course I write notes before class, but preparing those is easy if I know what I want to do.

and maybe the key thing is that I tend to teach texts, so tying class time to the texts is a requirement. I guess when I teach logic I just prepare like it's a math class, theorems, proofs, motivational questions, etc. if I didn't know ahead of time a technical topic I was teaching, I'd just write really good notes.

for me prepping for class isn't that different than prepping to give a research talk or write a paper. I'm trying to get something across to an audience and I've got to do it clearly because I only get one shot and everyone's attention is short. so it's got to be sharp and kinetic. I'm very easily bored and I assume my students are the same way.

Thanks, that's very useful and clear.

What does it mean in practice for the seminar to be 'work in progress' - that you will decide the following week's focus/trajectory based on the ideas that emerged this week? If so, does that include flexibility on picking the texts/parts of the texts themselves - 'at a minimum, we should read X, Y and Z and the rest is negotiable'? We have 'courses' rather than 'seminars', and the reading is pretty much set from the outset, although the prof might switch out readings 2-3 times if he/she finds interesting and relevant new papers.

we'll work through the text each week knowing what our eyes should be kept upon.

This is what I feel is lacking in my program. We often plough through experimental work without clear enough questions in mind. Only one course has been an exception, and that was a methods course.

yeah on the prof's part it depends on whether she wants to learn something new herself, or just communicate to others what she already knows. I have a hard time doing the latter: I get too bored. so I have to keep formulating things in terms I find interesting.

oh and on "work in progress" I just mean nothing is polished, I'm not presenting ideas that I already have under full control, and my hypotheses might be shattered by discussion. so what's being offered is def not a final product, ready for publication.

a little anxious venting: so i emailed my (potential) editor yesterday at the university press that is currently reviewing my book to check on its status. she tells me one of the reviews is in and they are simply waiting on the other one, but also that she has "a package ready to go to the board the minute the review arrives." is that a good, bad, or neutral comment?!? would an editor bother to prepare a package for a book that could still be rejected? i could probably ask her but i dont want to make any sudden movements.

It is neutral. It doesn't mean good or bad- it's just the process by which an academic book gets considered. My advice to you is to slow down, back off, and let their editorial process continue at the normal pace, because you don't want your editor thinking of you as pushy. It's fine and human to be curious, and they're used to that, but now that you've inquired, I would give them space. I know how hard that waiting time is, but you just have to do other things, work on other projects, and wait it out.

thanks! that's what i figured. i made a point to say it wasn't urgent so hopefully they believed me and took it as natural curiosity. my (potential) editor is exceptionally nice and pleasant, thankfully.

it's only a rough wait since im in the middle of applying for jobs and postdocs at the moment and it'd be real nice to mention a book in contract--feel like that's about the only thing on my cv that will make me stand out. and made a promise to myself to give up after this year.

the new academic job market: where you need a book before getting in the door!

believe me, I've been there, and waiting sucks but you have to just deal with it, and at least now you can say "under consideration at press X", and if there's a decision it's cool to pass that additional info on to schools that you're applying to. The weird part is that if you stay in the field the karma wheel turns and then you're the one who's late with your reader's report for an academic press that is about to have their meeting about potential book projects- you become the person you once speculated about, the mysterious anonymous reader. the press will need time for people on the committee to digest both reader's reports and come to their decision; the good news is that no press commissions reader's reports in the first place if they aren't potentially serious about a contract, but they can't make their case to the higher ups / board members without all the reports in place as that's just the procedure.

the academic job market is horrible and demoralizing and I'm sorry that my "deal with it" statement about the waiting part came off as kind of cold rather than compassionate- the point here is that you should be damn proud that you have a full ms under consideration at a press, and you should know how impressive that is to potential employers- the under consideration part is not AS great as "under contract", but it's still really fantastic and is IS going to make you stand out on the market. So . . . be good to yourself.

it did not come off "as deak with it" at all, fwiw. im happy to find some knowledgeable advice.

thanks for talking me off the ledge! i am going to embrace the limbo. back to composing cover letters...

ha, "deal with it," that is!

haha yes, I can't complain about late referees anymore, as I've sat on papers for a long time again and again. doesn't take me longer to review book projects than to review articles, since book proposals are just a précis usually, whereas with an article I have to read the whole thing carefully again and again. sitting on three articles right now, have refereed four articles and one book proposal so far this year. guessing that's a fairly normal to light load for tenured R1 faculty? but that's why I drag my feet sometimes.

yeah i dont blame them at all, and im sure i'd do the same. i've waited to hear about articles for totally insane amounts of time. (which makes even just publishing articles to polish your cv for the job market quite difficult).

by far the best front-page splash i have seen while visiting college web sites trolling for employment info:

http://www.dickinson.edu/uploadedImages/home_page/features/useful/Coe1.jpg

/useful/

clear message to freshman class

also, discovered/recalled that byu faculty swear to use CLEAN LANGUAGE

and live CHASTELY

'pending budgetary approval', always a solid sign

on search committee again this year

it won't take long just watch and see how the fellas lay their money down

another reassuring sign: 'customer service' link on a school's main page.

i am meeting grade grubbing for the first time in my career.

good luck usa.

it's repulsive. i want to take more points away.

is it pre-med students? yes it is pre-med students.

they are the worst

prepare for a call from the dean, srsly

yeah i am keeping copies of things.

since I already embarrassingly overshared on this thread i figured i owed an update on my book situation: split decision! well, the "negative" review wasn't all bad, it was "revise and resubmit." the editor, however, thinks the second reviewer "didn't get it" and wants to move on and try to get contract approval anyway. I have to write a diplomatic and polite response to the dissenting review for her to present to the board. fun times! i shouldn't complain though, this is (somewhat) good news!

is it pre-med students? yes it is pre-med students.

as someone who was once applying to med school i am half-sympathetic to these people (esp since here the gpa cut-off for the last 5 years has been 4.0) but lol yes, otm &c

ha i understand where it comes from. it's a bad situation. 4.0 is insane.

but in this case it isn't an a/a- borderline thing. this person is dreadful both academically (like my bet is she'll get a b-/c+ at the end of the semester on a course with an a- average, she's worse than the football players!) and in character, and the people who've told her she could be a doctor (her parents, her teachers?) have done her a terrible disservice.

ha caek like I dunno if you want to be a usa prof but if yes then this is like a daily thing

ha well 90% certain i'm not staying in academia, but if i were, the first thing i would do is leave the usa, but that's for unrelated reasons.

i have regular pre-med students who are a-/a and i expected that and can handle them. i can handle this girl too. it's just kind of shocking because it reflects so appallingly on whatever education and moral support and guidance she's had for the previous 17 years. i want to call her parents and ask to speak to any younger siblings in case they're doing the same thing to them.

perhaps she's a legacy admit

i almost never have gotten that anywhere except at the private school i taught at

i taught a class of 10 once in which 8 were either pre-med or pre-law. for the most part they were pretty great but you could tell school was very much a case of jumping through hoops for them. they simply wanted to perform well for me, and could probably take or leave any of the actual stuff discussed in class.

not that anyone should feel bad for getting a full-time college teaching gig, much less tenure

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/inside_higher_ed/2013/11/competing_for_tenure_is_like_competing_to_be_a_drug_lord.html

http://www.theatlantic.com/events/archive/2013/12/for-top-tier-universities-changes-in-higher-education-might-be-overblown/282180/

u of washington president:

Somebody once asked me how many professors work for me, and I said if you can ever find a professor who thinks he or she works for anybody, let me know.

heh

I jokingly call my chair my boss, but only when I want that person to take responsibility for something I don't want to bother with

i explained subordination to my students with the idea of an org chart, which only depressed me by how much institution seems to be bearing down on me for having so few people over me in the chart

if I just said "well the board of trustees and president and chancellor and provost and dean and chair are over me", it would be deceptive since it's really the *offices* of all those above me, which is like thousands of people since there are beaucoup deanlets and so on

and they're actually really, really nice

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/12/16/tenured-professor-boulder-says-she-being-forced-out-over-lecture-prostitution

worrying

my august employer http://www.nola.com/education/index.ssf/2013/12/loyola_employees_camp_out_to_t.html#incart_flyout_news

how much of that is katrina-related and how much is just the usual academic budget disaster?

absurd mismanagement, overpriced c-list liberal arts school, faculty run amok.

katrina did wonders for private higher ed in new orleans as the city became a magnet for starry eyed do gooder types and profiteering "entrepreneurial" carpetbaggers. universities used sudden "financial exigencies" to purge faculty rolls of dissenters and underperforming-but-valuable programs (tulane axed CIVIL ENGINEERING after katrina ffs).

what's happening now is the inevitable easing of the post-k gold rush combined with the Death of Higher Education combined with a university so crippled by bureaucracy that librarians are tenured.

i think it's common for university librarians to be tenured.

i 'almost' got a job at loyno a few years back, seeing that makes me feel a tiny bit relieved, but then again i don't know anyone with a job whose institution isn't more or less on the brink of shutting down or turning into a degree mill

i don't think it's all that common these days. and from grueling firsthand experience it really shouldn't be. the real threats to academic freedom (a la your link earlier today) should be fought but diluting the pool with a bunch of frauds taking 6-month research leaves to assemble anecdotal evidence about library seating patterns doesn't help anybody and really just makes academia appear even more absurd to those not firmly attached to its teat.

haha ok sorry. so much rage.

what's going down here right now is that every college at loyno has to shrink its personnel budget by a certain percentage. that early retirement might help but what we were told is that only staff would be cut. the university wishes to retain the "special qualities" of its tenured/tenure-track faculty (all the adjuncts and extraordinary are p much gone already and there aren't any in the library anyway) so the entire burden of the layoffs falls on the (small, hardworking) staff. my job is not in danger as these morons wouldn't know what to fucking do with any of their tech shit if i weren't here but it's still infuriating.

this is all because they projected 975 freshmen this year and got, no joke, 625. and retention rate is in the toilet anyway.