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I really like "Where Do I Begin" but I don't need to hear it every time I decide to listen to TPPR. Nice segue, mind.

I want sprinkles (country matters), Monday, 23 February 2009 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

In fact, it's been quite a while. *puts WDIB on*

I want sprinkles (country matters), Monday, 23 February 2009 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link

The end of WDIB is so bonkers and awesome

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Monday, 23 February 2009 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Shit, I haven't listened to it since Sept '06!!!

That ending when it goes mental, oh man. I am stoked for four minutes' time.

I want sprinkles (country matters), Monday, 23 February 2009 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Shit, I haven't listened to it since Sept '06!!!

lol itunes era

meme economist (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 23 February 2009 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link

The only time I've played the entire album straight through was Christmas Day '05 :-/

I want sprinkles (country matters), Monday, 23 February 2009 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah yeah, I remember now. As bonkers tuneless workout endings by high-profile 90's electro acts go, this is good, but it ain't no "Narayan".

I want sprinkles (country matters), Monday, 23 February 2009 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link

that better be a self-parody

meme economist (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 23 February 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link

dear HKM,

the last two minutes of "Narayan" >>>>> the last two minutes of "Where Do I Begin"

sincerely,

I want sprinkles (country matters), Monday, 23 February 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

uh, no

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Monday, 23 February 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I like "Naryan" a lot but that is just madness

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Monday, 23 February 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes crazy talk.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, to qualify, I'm *just* talking about the buzzsaw bit, not the HUGE distorted electro climax just beforehand (or the gentle segue into TPPR)

I want sprinkles (country matters), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Private Psychedelic Reels is the one where Mercury Rev play their mad homemade synth thing, isn't it? I'm gonna have to dig it out and find out.

Baby, Your Phasing Is Bad (Masonic Boom), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Narayan's the one with the dude from Kula Shaker on isn't it?

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

yes to both of those

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, and the ENORMOUS mentalist psychedelic drum'n'clater ending, which has 0 to do with our Crispian xp

I want sprinkles (country matters), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link

*clatter

I want sprinkles (country matters), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

YES. (i.e. the Mercury Rev link.)

What album is Naranyan on? I kinda gave up on them around the time of Surrender.

Baby, Your Phasing Is Bad (Masonic Boom), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

It would help if I could spell.

Baby, Your Phasing Is Bad (Masonic Boom), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

It's on The Prodigy's "Fat of the Land".

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I gave up on the Chems circa Surrender as well, but Come With Us lured me back in and I loved We Are The Night.

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link

to be fair the last minute or so of Narayan IS better than ppl remember (clue: Mills has stopped singing by this point)

TPPR made me totally bored of epic album closers as parting statement

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link

never did get the Surrender hate (not that i ever want to listen to 'Dream On' ever ever)

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha ha ha, I never liked The Prodigy.

It's funny how Chemical Bros were, like, *the* 90s dance superduo it was OK for rockists to like.

And they got away with it in a way that, say Justice, get loads of shit for doing essentially the same thing.

Baby, Your Phasing Is Bad (Masonic Boom), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link

"Hey Boy Hey Girl" is one of their best singles ever but I had such a visceral hate reaction to "Music: Response" that it carried over into the rest of the album; that's another one I only ever played once and basically said "ugh, never again" to. Odds are if I heard it now, I'd like it a lot more!

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link

It was that FREAKING AWFUL song with Barney Sumner on it that did it in for me. (Or am I thinking Primal Scream? I get them mixed up sometimes.)

This thread has inspired me. I'm going to stop downloading obscure The Factory b-sides and actually listen to Surrender for the first time, basically, since I bought it.

Baby, Your Phasing Is Bad (Masonic Boom), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link

haha i hated music: response too and i cant remember why

first impulse is to vote for setting sun if im being honest

this is the meme of evan and 4chan (Lamp), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link

It was that FREAKING AWFUL song with Barney Sumner on it that did it in for me.

"Out Of Control"! I hated that one too, but then heard it out of the context of the album years later and was kind of into it, which is why I'm pretty sure that I'd be into the album now.

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought Surrender was pretty awesome at the time but I haven't listened to it in years.

Euler, Monday, 23 February 2009 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Surrender is awesome! I way prefer it to DYOH. Start with "Out Of Control" and let it play from there. The midsection is *just* brilliant (LFB>>>TSU>>>AFD)

"We Are The Night", if you trim the fat off it, is completely fucking wonderful as well, and TRULY underrated. "Burst Generator" and "We Are The Night" are up there in my Chems top 5.

I want sprinkles (country matters), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh god, also HO HO HOPE Sandoval is on this record. A lot to hate.

Baby, Your Phasing Is Bad (Masonic Boom), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe "A Modern Midnight Conversation" as well.

I want sprinkles (country matters), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

i first heard 'Out Of Control' while on a train to Bristol en route to my first Glastonbury where the album was getting predictably rinsed all over the sun-drenched site from various stalls and tents so imo it remains totally fucking great

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I am probably unhealthily obsessed with "Battle Scars".

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

yes

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey you know what, Music: response isn't actually that bad. I really like the Sonic Boom VCS3 synth wubs it starts with.

Baby, Your Phasing Is Bad (Masonic Boom), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Hmm, Surrender v DYOH is a tricky one. PPR > Dream On, but Let Forever Be > Setting Sun (even though I find "how does it feel like" to be irritatingly ungrammatical").

ledge, Monday, 23 February 2009 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

it's supposed to be "how does it feel, like...", scouser style

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Hooray you have transformed it for me!

ledge, Monday, 23 February 2009 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll vote for the obvious choice: "Setting Sun." Blew my mind.

As for Surrender, "Out of Control" and "Hey Boy: Hey Girl" compensate for Hope Sandoval and Mercury Fucking Rev.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually, in terms of the *music*, I'm liking it (Surrender) a lot more than I did at the time. Though barney's off key singing still bugs the heck out of me.

(I did hear a rumour that there was originally more backing that he was supposedly singing along with, and that they took it out in the mix to make it more minimal and Moroder, with the effect that his vocal riff no longer makes any sense at all.)

I think perhaps I judged it a bit too harshly because its release coincided with one of the most rabidly rockist periods of my life.

Baby, Your Phasing Is Bad (Masonic Boom), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I really like "Where Do I Begin" ...

― I want sprinkles (country matters), Monday, 23 February 2009 16:48 (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Oh yeah, Beth Orton, innit?

Mark G, Monday, 23 February 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

surrender is epic

meme economist (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Sumner's guitar on "Out of Control" = some of his wildest.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link

It really falls down in the middle. There's a lot of skippable flab starting around the time Noel Gallagher opens his mouth and I keep waiting for it to pick back up again, and it doesn't.

Baby, Your Phasing Is Bad (Masonic Boom), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link

haha oh yeah, I also wildly hated "Let Forever Be"

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I recently went through a bout of relistening to all the albums (yay finally ripping all my collection at last) and I was most surprised how what I thought was a fairly standard formula for them over the years actually had more variety than I realized -- it's less obvious at points than, say, Basement Jaxx's twists and turns, but they managed the trick of 'we have our sound but we know what else is out there' pretty nicely.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 February 2009 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I got through Let Forever Be, but I really reached for the skip button when it got to Asleep From Day. KILL KILL KILL KILL.

OK, Got Glint? just kicked in and I feel better.

So sorry to litter DYOH thread with Surrender gubbins. I was just curious about how I could love an album so much I wore holes in it, and dislike the follow up so much as to never investigate them again.

Baby, Your Phasing Is Bad (Masonic Boom), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Just listening to Where Do I Begin and I don't remember the ending at all! I probably used to skip it 'cause of Beth Ort-yawn.

ledge, Monday, 23 February 2009 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Great finds in student radio promo piles: years ago when I first worked at the library and it was the music & film department, we had the old uni radio vinyl collection, which was mostly utter shit (a Momus 12", I mean, COME ON), but in amongst all the crap I found a 12" copy of the Lazarus EP by the Boos, and a 12" of Blue by Bark Psychosis. So it's not all total crap. Just most of it.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

getting promos as a student was like Christmas every day. i got Middle Of Nowhere a few months before release, before internet leaks really took off.

― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:22 PM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

samesies... not too many rap cds. we had handsome boy modelling club.

meme economist (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

those were the days when you actually got good things in the mail

I want sprinkles (country matters), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

like, in our radio library, there's actually quite a lot of good stuff from the 90's/early 00's, but the recent additions have seen some crazy drop-off

I want sprinkles (country matters), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

you hardly ever got American music

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

even music hacks seem to have to go into the record company offices to, like, hear what they're meant to be reviewing nowadays. *shakes head*

meme economist (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

ANYWAY.

who is this doin' this synthetic type o' alpha beta psychedelic funkin'

I want sprinkles (country matters), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

i actually like this idea of hearing an album for the first time with a bunch of people in similar position in same place tho

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

it's like FILMS omg

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link

k-hole & electrobank my favorites when i last listened to this (july 24th, 1998, 3:43-4:46 pm). went w k-hole cuz it's too short, which is always nice

welcome little swetty (contenderizer), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 5 March 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

"Where Do I Begin". This is my least favourite Chemicals album and I have no idea why people consider it their best. I like their underrated noughties work generally much better, although the debut probably remains my favourite Chemicals album.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 5 March 2009 00:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 6 March 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I think this is almost the perfect outcome

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess I'm just another un-hip late comer to the Chems who worshipped Surrender apon release and thought Dig was feh, aside from the awesome-even-to-idoits Setting Sun... all of which makes me the height of douche baggary.

divorcedalcoholicloser, Friday, 6 March 2009 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i wanna know what geir thinks of the last 90 seconds of his favourite track

they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Friday, 6 March 2009 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

This record sounds so good to me now, first time listening in probably over a decade. Even the overplayed at the time "Setting Sun" is sexy as hell.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 02:54 (eight years ago) link

I love ILX.

campreverb, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 03:43 (eight years ago) link

K Hole!!!

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 05:10 (eight years ago) link

So so dope

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 05:10 (eight years ago) link

Their first album too, is a lot more banging than I remember.

draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 09:04 (eight years ago) link

First album weirdly not talked about much, I find?

I've always kinda felt the first two albums were secretly way too tuff n ruff outside the singles for a lot of people, Surrender seemed to be greeted with a lot of pent up enthusiasm amongst friends of mine who wanted a dance album that was "crossover" in substance as well as reputation (to be fair they were all 17 years old).

Tim F, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 09:25 (eight years ago) link

Opposite here. Surrender was not well greeted as far as I remember. Way too diluted and Britpoppy.

draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 10:10 (eight years ago) link

yeah I was reading magazines and on a bunch of dumb mailing lists at the time and it seemed like a lot of people were not a fan of Surrender - though I liked it quite a bit

I do revisit Dig from time to time and I agree, it ought to sound terribly dated by now but it still rules.

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 13:12 (eight years ago) link

I haven't heard surrender for a while but memory is a couple good tracks and mostly disappointment.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 14:42 (eight years ago) link

rarely listen to exit planet dust, dig your own hole or surrender (lol @ my last post itt), but all 3 still sound great when i do, especially dig. massive, mighty, and dated just right. beyond the odd stray track ("star guitar"), i'm not much interested in what came after. so put me down with the hivemind, i guess.

Keks + Nuss (contenderizer), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 15:05 (eight years ago) link

Star Guitar is great yeah.

draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 15:15 (eight years ago) link

I definitely remember Surrender being met with mild disappointment compared to the first couple, especially given the monstrous single that preceded it. Then again it was 1999 and that was happening with most of the big album dance releases.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 15:19 (eight years ago) link

the best thing about the first album is that there's no Noel Gallagher on it. Somehow I really like the Tim Burgess track.

draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 15:37 (eight years ago) link

His voice is so fx'd up, tho (Noel's), it's not blatantly obvious that it's hum

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 16:09 (eight years ago) link

him

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 16:09 (eight years ago) link

rediscovered my love for this and EPD by adding them to my workout playlist. they always deliver too.

evol j, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 20:00 (eight years ago) link

This has always been a favorite of mine. From start to finish it is damn solid and the last 2 tracks create a hugely epic ending. I'd probably vote for Elektrobank.

I was recently stoked to discover Got Glint off of Surrender heavily sampled Bernard Fevre. I was recently listening to Cosmos 2043 and Earth Message was essentially a stripped down version of the song. Fun times.

octobeard, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 22:21 (eight years ago) link

RE: Surrender (upthread), I remember liking it quite a lot at the time of its release, even if (or because?) it was different from the (studio) albums that proceeded it: https://web.archive.org/web/20010112123300/http://www.skinny.com/music/reviews/1999/06/html/chemicalbros2.html

I heard Surrender as the crossover hybrid that appealed to Friends of Tim F; its more accessible aesthetics as a set list complement to the to roughest moments of Exit and Dig. (Fwiw, my friends and I were in our mid-20's.)

sombrerodetuned (sombrerodetune), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 00:43 (eight years ago) link

I always forget how aggressive and just loud "Setting Sun" is.

Tim F, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link

When I was 17 it sounded very dangerous and intense and sexy and it still kind of does.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 23:11 (eight years ago) link

I also remember Where Do I Begin completely blowing my mind at the time, the idea of a "singer songwriter" doing a looped, four-line, wistful poem over a druggy backwards guitar sample and then going into a massive breakbeat. My god that sounds terrible when I write it out but it's sooooo good.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link

six years pass...

25 years... Time can be scary sometimes.

all the alt mixes on the reissue are really good. Especially the one of it doesn't matter. Listen to that one with some good headphones and you'll have a good time.

BringTheAuBonPain, Saturday, 30 July 2022 22:33 (one year ago) link

Might have to pick it up, I bought the original LP back in the day without a way to play it and when I finally got a turntable I found out I got two of the first record

frogbs, Saturday, 30 July 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

Surprisingly this record actually sorta holds up

frogbs, Saturday, 30 July 2022 22:50 (one year ago) link

Yeah, it slaps.

BringTheAuBonPain, Saturday, 30 July 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link

Perfect album that changed my life when I was 9

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 31 July 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

"sorta"?????????

death generator (lukas), Sunday, 31 July 2022 10:42 (one year ago) link


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