words that you only ever read in science fiction

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The phrase "intagliated with involved cyphers and sphenograms" just trips right off the tongue, don't it?

Aimless, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link

This seems interesting to me in terms of ~ reading strategies
Will be back later to address this

I Am the Cosimo Code (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link

if it were a movie where, say riddick showed up in a costume that was similarly unfamiliar and semiotically dense, would it also be a tar trap to the audience's attention, where the intended focus is riddick punching people?
(i'm thinking that might actually be the case, hence the simplified tank top)

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link

zardoz.jpg

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 20 September 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

but, i mean, semiotic denseness is harrison's intended focus -- it's not a book about tegeus-Cromis stabbing ppl

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 20 September 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link

So u r saying the rest of us are naive, literal-minded readers, thomp?

I Am the Cosimo Code (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 September 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link

Another one from MJH, from "Settling the World," the first story in Things That Never Happen:

My very first glimpse of God's Own Road awaited me; the scent of my Palaeonophis mingled deliciously what the scent of the sea

in which the unfamiliar word seems to come from an H. G. Wells story called "The Flowering of the Strange Orchid."

I Am the Cosimo Code (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 September 2013 22:50 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Remembered the word I was looking for because I found it here: http://www.catb.org/esr/sf-words/glossary.html#sophont

sophont
[From Poul Anderson's `Polesotechnic League' stories, going back at least to 1963]

An evolved biological intelligence. Implies human-level cognitive and linguistic ability but not necessarily tool use. More specific and etymologically correct than sentient. Still less common than that term, but has been used by multiple writers.

Sodade Stereo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 October 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

Already posted that upthread, sorry, although not the link to the glossary.

Sodade Stereo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 October 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link

i finally finished green mars. no more pistes and escarpments for me for awhile.

scott seward, Saturday, 26 October 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

I like some of his short stories and have a copy of Red Mars -they were giving the ebook a few years ago in the hope that you would read the whole series- but never managed to get too far into it.

Sodade Stereo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 October 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The fourth word in this sentence, from the beginning of Jack Vance's "Mazirian the Magician": And beyond the roqual hedge the trees of the forest made a tall wall of mystery. In fact I'm still not sure what it means, I couldn't find it in any dictionary and if I google it I only get references to this exact same passage, or the suggestion Did you mean 'rorqual'?

Pazz & Jop 1280 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 November 2013 03:40 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

not a word afaict (did an oed check), only thing i can think of is whether it's an invented adjectival form of 'roque':

"A form of croquet played in the United States on a court surrounded by a bank and using ten hoops and short-handled mallets."

still doesn't really make sense, but is closer than 'rorqual'. you might at a (very great) stretch replace 'the bank of a roque court' with a hedge?

Roque features heavily in Stephen King's novel The Shining. Where in the film adaptation Jack Torrance wields an axe, his weapon in the book was a roque mallet. The character Ullman tells Torrance that roque is the older, original form of the game and croquet is a "bastardized" American version. In fact, croquet is the original European game and roque is a later American variation.

but yeah, i think it's a made up word.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 11:45 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...
seven months pass...

gloottokoma. I've only ever seen this word used by M. John Harrison, in the Viriconium books and in an introduction to Disch's 334.

Dr. Winston ‘Merritone’ Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 January 2018 01:53 (six years ago) link

oh cool
An Unnatural Order: The Roots of Our Destruction of Nature
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1590560817
Jim Mason - 2004 - ‎Nature
He explains the Greek word gloottokoma, which refers to boxes used to lock up little children with the aim of shaping their growth for a lucrative career as circus dwarfs. The Roman Longinus wrote in the first century a d, of the practice of caging people in order to stunt their growth. Romans were known to have disfigured

dow, Monday, 1 January 2018 02:03 (six years ago) link

Speaking of words, last night I sent a New Year's greeting to an olde pal, addressing him as "Richard Chivas Regal---he just now responded with this (30 years he waits to tell me):
...my Kraut ancestors had nothing to do with anything royal, in fact, in German "Riegel" means "bar," not a saloon, but the bar that slides in a deadbolt...By extension from that usage, "Riegel" also came to mean "chocolate bar" in German (still not making this up.) I've been considering dubbing myself "Rich Candybar" should I need another nom de plume...

dow, Monday, 1 January 2018 02:54 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

"Luna"

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

words I only ever see in sf or sf criticism: “jonbar point.”

Jazz Telemachy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 02:09 (four years ago) link

Jonbar usually capitalized, also known as a Jonbar Hinge.

Jazz Telemachy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 02:11 (four years ago) link

ansible

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 10:56 (four years ago) link

^excellent

Jazz Telemachy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 11:46 (four years ago) link

words invented especially for sci-fi that describe a fictional concept, tbf

(I know it from https://ansible.uk)

insecurity bear (sic), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 12:21 (four years ago) link

yeah, me too

Jazz Telemachy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 13:00 (four years ago) link

maybe that’s another thread, for words like that and “waldo.” There’s also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansible_(software)?wprov=sfti1

Jazz Telemachy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link

"Iris" as a verb. ("The door irised open")

Øystein, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

didn’t RAH famously come up with that?

The Soundtrack of Burl Ives (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 December 2019 01:34 (four years ago) link

Cranch

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 December 2019 01:59 (four years ago) link

apparently that is a real last name but yeah.

The story also makes reference to “the wire of Eustace Cranch.”

The Soundtrack of Burl Ives (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 December 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link

wait, I just happen to own the Cordwainer Smith concordance, let me look in that.

The Soundtrack of Burl Ives (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 December 2019 02:21 (four years ago) link

which quotes this from J. J. Pierce’s intro in The Best of:

At the time Smith wrote the story in 1945, there was an abandoned shop in his neighborhood called the Little Cranch—what “cranch” meant, he had no idea—but he used the word anyway.

The Soundtrack of Burl Ives (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 December 2019 02:31 (four years ago) link

then adding that “cranch” is a variant of “craunch” which I see in other sources seems to be an ancestor of “crunch.” /themoreyouknow

The Soundtrack of Burl Ives (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 December 2019 02:35 (four years ago) link

And here I thought all along it had something to do with Lucas Cranach.

The Soundtrack of Burl Ives (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 December 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link

Cranch, won’t pick it up

The Soundtrack of Burl Ives (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 December 2019 02:39 (four years ago) link

didn’t RAH famously come up with that?

I didn't remember that, but Googling certainly makes it seems that way.
Though I also found this prickly quotation from page 68 of _Social and Virtual Space: Science Fiction, Transnationalism, and the American New Right_
By Laura Chernaik:
https://i.imgur.com/8pOLBSM.png

Øystein, Monday, 30 December 2019 10:44 (four years ago) link

oh right the original was “dilated.” Still...

The Soundtrack of Burl Ives (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 December 2019 12:17 (four years ago) link

i thought iris as a verb was used early in the movie industry to describe the wipe

Bojo Rabid (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 December 2019 12:27 (four years ago) link

torus

mookieproof, Monday, 30 December 2019 12:41 (four years ago) link

“strato-“ as a prefix

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 December 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link

i thought iris as a verb was used early in the movie industry to describe the wipe

yeah, I wondered about that too. Although I feel like I usually saw it as noun rather than verb but not really sure.

The Soundtrack of Burl Ives (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 December 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_shot

"iris out" and "iris in" are usually noun phrases -- "the film ends with an iris out" -- that encourage the belief in "iris" can act as a verb with "in" or "out" as its adverb: "let's end the film by irising out"

mark s, Monday, 30 December 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link

Thanks for, um, irising in, Mark.

The Soundtrack of Burl Ives (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 December 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link

offworld

Manitobiloba (Kim), Monday, 30 December 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

The f-stop aperture of cameras was known as an iris decades before sci-fi got hold of the term.
https://tubularinsights.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/f-stop-scale.gif

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool (Sanpaku), Monday, 30 December 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

"as a verb"

mark s, Monday, 30 December 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link

the element in a camera is anyway transferred from the anatomical region that surrounds the pupil in the eye, so-called (since 1525 via SOED) bcz it is rainbow coloured, iris being the greek goddess of the rainbow -- and "irised" did actually pre-exist (acc.SOED, i've never spotted it) as a poetic verb meaning "exhibited the characteristics of a rainbow"

so there's a quadruple meaning transference, which is fun: from name-of-a-god to colour quality to mechanism (purposive-muscular) to mechanism (purposive-mechanical) to mechanism (similar mechanism different purpose)

mark s, Monday, 30 December 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

El show de Iris Chacon to thread!

The Soundtrack of Burl Ives (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 December 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

lidar

mookieproof, Monday, 30 December 2019 22:42 (four years ago) link

there's a lot of lidar talk in 1491! which, okay, does read a bit like science fiction in places

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 December 2019 23:22 (four years ago) link


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