Rolling US Economy Into The Shitbin Thread

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in all honesty i would wager that i could get in more fistfights and buy more coke in the UES and other neighborhoods filled with wall-streeters

and i can do those things without fetishizing a mythological version of the lives of the poor & oppressed!!!

i hear financial types may have to cut back on their cocaine and fist fights - harsh times

maybe they can make some money teaching people puerto-rican spanish?

ayyyeee maaami!

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vamanos!

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quiero un fistfight!

I know good Democrats don't click on Counterpunch, but that piece did contain the line "This is all romanticized drivel..."

(I got really depressed walking thru Washington Square the last couple weeks and realizing the NYU freshmen were born in 1990. Kids have known nothing but the worst ever in Hollywood movies, journalism, and Democrats.)

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hola me llamo es cocaine!

how many pet pedicurists does one nabe need?

Ask Surmounter.

morbius is right, park slope is lame.

fight the real enemy

let me tell u i went to park slope last week and bought six cocaines and got in two fist fights and came back fluent in spanish

they have a five guys now...

so put that in your pipa and fumar it

more like cinco hombres

i like Park Slope

-- gabbneb

ocho sinkhole

this is all tom brady's fault

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Mt. Rushmore, redone.

i like Park Slope

-- gabbneb

― gabbneb

glad-handing smiley-face ... idiot consumer ...

― gabbneb

i recommend the la taqueria pablano burrito

no you should walk up a ways and go to calexico instead, it's better

calexico is nice too too but theyre not really the same type of place

I get off the F train and get Uncle Moe's veggie burrito (w. wheat) once a week.

rolling US economy into burritos

i know but mmmm enchiladas amirite

yah exactly - ill eat the taqueria burritos and the calexico enchiladas

i hope the great depression of 2008 means blue ribbon has to close, that place sucks!!!

this guy has been OTM so far...

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/622acc9e-8...nclick_check=1

The shadow banking system is unravelling

By Nouriel Roubini

Published: September 21 2008 17:57 | Last updated: September 21 2008 17:57

Last week saw the demise of the shadow banking system that has been created over the past 20 years. Because of a greater regulation of banks, most financial intermediation in the past two decades has grown within this shadow system whose members are broker-dealers, hedge funds, private equity groups, structured investment vehicles and conduits, money market funds and non-bank mortgage lenders.

Like banks, most members of this system borrow very short-term and in liquid ways, are more highly leveraged than banks (the exception being money market funds) and lend and invest into more illiquid and long-term instruments. Like banks, they carry the risk that an otherwise solvent but liquid institution may be subject to a self fulfilling and destructive run on its liquid liabilities.

But unlike banks, which are sheltered from the risk of a run – via deposit insurance and central banks’ lender-of-last-resort liquidity – most members of the shadow system did not have access to these firewalls that prevent runs.

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The next stage will be a run on thousands of highly leveraged hedge funds. After a brief lock-up period, investors in such funds can redeem their investments on a quarterly basis; thus a bank-like run on hedge funds is highly possible. Hundreds of smaller, younger funds that have taken excessive risks with high leverage and are poorly managed may collapse. A massive shake-out of the bloated hedge fund industry is likely in the next two years.

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European financial institutions are at risk of sharp losses because of the toxic US securitised products sold to them; the massive increase in leverage following aggressive risk-taking and domestic securitisation; a severe liquidity crunch exacerbated by a dollar shortage and a credit crunch; the bursting of domestic housing bubbles; household and corporate defaults in the recession; losses hidden by regulatory forbearance; the exposure of Swedish, Austrian and Italian banks to the Baltic states, Iceland and southern Europe where housing and credit bubbles financed in foreign currency are leading to hard landings.

Thus the financial crisis of the century will also envelop European financial institutions.

sorry this is the right link to read the whole thing:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/622acc9e-87f1-11dd-b114-0000779fd18c.html?nclick_check=1

I AM ROUBINI, THE ANGEL OF DEATH

I know the name Roubini, but why? Did he make a massively right call on dotcoms or something?

And here is your #1 on cnn Paul vs Paulson smackdown: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/23/paul.bailout/index.html?iref=topnews

one guy i talked to argued the blame should go @ greenspan's feet for lowering interest rates for such a long time in the early 00s

Greenspan was indeed deeply complicit in blowing the succession of bubbles that culminated in the housing bubble.

Greenspan's 2003 lowering of rates = DUD

Roubini was derided in '06 for being so doom-and-gloom "negative," - "we have a subprime financial system, not a subprime mortgage market," - but most of what he's said has panned out. He was on Charlie Rose the other night, repeating that we're not facing a depression, but the worst recession since the GD

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4810644.ece

Roubini has been like a sole voice of reason for years now. Peter Schiff has been more right than wrong over the last 6 or 7 years. Fred Harrison predicted this correct pretty much to the month almost 10 years ago? (and predicted the 91 recession in 82).

Its difficult not to have Greenspan right at the top of the list of culprits (plus the central bankers in every other western nation that followed his lead) but its arguable all they did was exacerbate the inevitable

lol @ "predicting" recessions 10 years in advance

lol at getting the dates correct pretty much to the month and providing detailed reasons why to back up your predictions

There'll be plenty books written on why this all happened. Many of them have been in print for a few years now

i'm curious what the guy's reasons are! but the idea that someone has some superlative future predicting powers is some scifi bullshit.

I don't think its anything like amazing future prediction powers! and he was hardly the only one! His books are on amazon, you could read

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Boom-Bust-Prices-Banking-Depression/dp/0856831891/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1222223422&sr=8-5

there are plenty other books on this subject by others over the last decade, im sure many are poor!

Its only really a theory based on 18 year cycles, i'm not going to try condense it too much, especially as many of the reasons are self-evident now it is happening. (in retrospect i think there has been quite a lot of predictions of an 08-10 crash from the last decade or so, but maybe didnt get so much coverage as we convinced ourselves we were all richer?)

I'm interested in how much of this could be attributed to Nixons closing of the gold window for foreign nations in 1971, as this global financial system is only 37 years old (havent read so much on this, but would like to!)

Anyway all I'm saying is, of course you might think hes full of bullshit, but his (and others) books are there for the reading, and surely it would be more interesting to read something and then call it out! i mean, no-one just writes a book with "I think this will happen" and nothing else in it!

Whoa ho ho - what a surprise considering Hank's GS past!

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aUj_9.k13q7s&refer=home

Paulson Debt Plan May Benefit Mostly Goldman, Morgan (Update2)

By Jody Shenn

Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Morgan Stanley may be among the biggest beneficiaries of the $700 billion U.S. plan to buy assets from financial companies while many banks see limited aid, according to Bank of America Corp.

``Its benefits, in its current form, will be largely limited to investment banks and other banks that have aggressively written down the value of their holdings and have already recognized the attendant capital impairment,'' Jeffrey Rosenberg, Bank of America's head of credit strategy research, wrote in a report dated yesterday, without identifying particular banks.

So warren buffet is putting 6bn into goldman. Champagne, cocaine and bonuses all round.

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Well there's a surprise, as if it hasn't already.