For real tho i'm srsly pissed we didnt get a demandred book he was awes
so i guess they ended up making this
― im a bogbrew bitch (Lamp), Saturday, 7 September 2013 05:05 (ten years ago) link
Wait, what?
http://observationdeck.io9.com/the-wheel-of-time-secret-pilot-1684685865/1684735881/+bricken#_ga=1.202562897.1991406438.1421943870
http://io9.com/the-real-story-about-that-wheel-of-time-pilot-that-aire-1684773094
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 February 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvNYIEN1vIg
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 February 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link
From a separate io9 comment on that:
Fuck Selvage. Seriously, fuck him. He's squatting on rights that he has not the balls, brains, or money to develop. How dare he put out such an utterly defunct piece of work like that? That 24 minutes was the worst thing I've ever seen on television - AND I WATCHED ALL OF CHARMED.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 February 2015 23:34 (nine years ago) link
Good grief this is getting even more bizarre -- so this blogpost has more background:
http://thewertzone.blogspot.com/2015/02/wheel-of-time-gets-tv-pilot-out-of.html?m=1
And in an update there there's condolences given to one Seda James, who directed the pilot and passed away a couple of days ago. Now I thought the blog author was making some sort of jokey reference to an Alan Smithee style pseudonym but there really wa a Seda James and he really did just die!
https://m.facebook.com/events/1537650793180826/#!/events/1537650793180826/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 February 2015 23:59 (nine years ago) link
I just finished this, finally. no idea why I waited so long. I had forgotten quite a bit but it all came back. I think I read the first 6 books or so about 3-4 times each so it's not surprising I had a lot of buried memories. more later, perhaps, but I think Sanderson did a nice job. the final book is quite a protracted action packed climax. it's practically exhausting and not without flaws but it does walk a nice line between fan service type stuff and really keeping the stakes high. also, I counted one instance of arms crossed under breasts (lanfear!) and one meta-joke about a "very long two years." i will deal with my book mourning now by consuming the wiki--would have killed for that 20-something years ago when this all started for me!
oh, and I fear any live action screen adaptation of this will be a disaster and miss everything fun about it.
― ryan, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
we need a spoiler thread for this so i can call out that ending
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
some great posts in this thread now that I can read it. agree with many of the criticisms but I do think the middle portion of this book--where it slowly becomes clear the generals are being controlled--was really tense and awesome. I was like "oh nooo they got the generals!" to my girlfriend and she just sniffed at me.
feeling sad Jordan couldn't finish this. despite all his faults and the frustrating aspects of reading the later books I really really enjoyed his world building and ability to sharply define characters (and then drive that characterization into the ground a million times). but still glad Sanderson made some closure possible and not sure anyone else could have done much better.
― ryan, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
oh yes and one thing that improved with Sanderson was the treatment of sex/sexuality. Jordan's book are, I think, sort of drenched in a juvenile sense of sexuality, which is perhaps fitting, but Sanderson's (relatively) more frank and mature approach is also a very satisfying way for the series to evolve.
I was also happy the main three survived.
and Lan is a badass.
― ryan, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link
and i was pretty pissed that Sanderson killed off Bela
― ryan, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
Long haul flight last week with only book three on my Kindle app
Skipping everything but Perrin and mat pays serious dividends fyi
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 June 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link
Tell you what
If tomorrow is as lazy as today around here im going to start polling books and characters
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 June 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link
im down. is the tv show still happening? (or was it ever happening? i cant remember).
― ryan, Sunday, 5 June 2016 16:09 (seven years ago) link
spent the last two months reading this start (not the prequel) to finish — think i quit after book six back in the day
pretty good imo, but yeah the middle books were just grindingly slow. i mean faile got kidnapped late in one book, perrin spent the entire next one chasing and crying after her, then didn’t retrieve her until halfway through the one after that — none of which really mattered to the overall plot.
that said, i still pretty much tore through it. still couldn’t keep track of which minor aes sedai were in which faction though
sanderson did a nice job — at the very least there was less flaming repetition, and the dialogue was more interesting.
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 23:34 (five years ago) link
his dialogue was wrong imo but he did a good job overall
further rereading will see the draggy parts recede in importance btw ime
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 23:35 (five years ago) link
having now completed those four million words i’m not sure what to do with myself
― mookieproof, Thursday, 27 December 2018 02:39 (five years ago) link
Could start in on the Bible
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, 27 December 2018 02:41 (five years ago) link
read the talmud instead it's a lot cooler, and also long
― j., Thursday, 27 December 2018 03:00 (five years ago) link
i already know the ending
― mookieproof, Thursday, 27 December 2018 03:01 (five years ago) link
How about the Mahābhārata? You could also try learning sanskrit first if brevity is an issue.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 27 December 2018 03:10 (five years ago) link
There's also L. Ron Hubbard's Mission Earth series. All top-shelf material I'm sure.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 27 December 2018 03:11 (five years ago) link
dirty stuff too
― j., Thursday, 27 December 2018 03:24 (five years ago) link
PKD
― calstars, Thursday, 27 December 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, 27 December 2018 02:41 (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
have to imagine hes ready to leave jordan for a while
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 December 2018 09:43 (five years ago) link
just got to the sanderson books... woof! this is such bad fan fiction!
― 龜, Monday, 20 June 2022 00:06 (one year ago) link
so
you're saying
that you prefer
literally three books of perrin doing nothing but stewing
― mookieproof, Monday, 20 June 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link
perrin's definitely the weakest of the 3. i think there's a whole book in the golden middle of the series where he doesn't even appear? after the 'return to the shire' bit and before faile gets captured.
it's funny that rj developed this 'am i going to go bestial and insane - how did elyas stop it' plotline for him early on and then it vanished completely. elyas even came back and they just smell each other for a few chapters.
― 龜, Monday, 20 June 2022 00:53 (one year ago) link
ohhhh lord darragh ned please talk to this sucker cause they killing rand al'thor they taking the pain and struggle of life of the dragon reborn the only thing we coulda express our minds and pain. and these suckers took it and made it look like garbage thats why we get judge so much cause these shit dont be making sence
― mookieproof, Monday, 20 June 2022 02:55 (one year ago) link
The best example I can think of of a fantasy author completely losing control of the narrative. I suppose his health problems contributed, but I don't think he had any idea how to end it.
By the way, who killed Asmodean?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 20 June 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link
~25 years after i first started... done!
― 龜, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link