pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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This happened to someone I know (actually, we also played in a band together for a while). Won't name bands or names, but I had very mixed feelings about it when I found out. It's been a long time and after that I started reading Pitchfork very differently. I sometimes read it to find out about bands or see bands mentioned in the say breath as other ones as recommendations.

c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 5 September 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link

Though I'm kind of tired of the hypersensitivity towards any discussion that isn't entirely original. There clearly isn't any other reason to comment unless you want to prove to everyone how much less of a sheeple you are or something. Anyway...

Evan, Thursday, 5 September 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link

It's the nature of the business. ILXOR users probably see themselves as seeing through P4K's intentions more, but it doesn't mean most of P4K's readers do.

c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 5 September 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link

Though I'm kind of tired of the hypersensitivity towards any discussion that isn't entirely original

yeah this is def on the cusp of "not an original conversation" and "something someone gets butthurt over once a year"

Vinetalic - "My Friend Terio" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 5 September 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link

see also WHY WONT THEY LET US SEE THE WRITERS INDIVIDUAL BALLOTS WHY

Vinetalic - "My Friend Terio" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 5 September 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link

I think they did, last time.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 5 September 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

It's not always such an emotional response.

Evan, Thursday, 5 September 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link

Information is allowed to be new to different people, but I agree "butthurt" is not warranted if it truly is the case.

Evan, Thursday, 5 September 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

7.9 is not a bad score

rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 5 September 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link

No but to me the review seemed clearly to suggest a much higher one is all.

Evan, Thursday, 5 September 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link

they have a hopper in the office that spits up scores at random

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 September 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link

they also share coffee cups and spouses

i bet it's spelled B-O-R-E-D (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 5 September 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link

Information is allowed to be new to different people, but I agree "butthurt" is not warranted if it truly is the case.

― Evan, Thursday, September 5, 2013 1:58 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well I'm glad someone who's posted on ILX for 11 years finally discovered discussion of pitchfork scores

Vinetalic - "My Friend Terio" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 5 September 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link

You have me confused with someone else.

Evan, Thursday, 5 September 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link

That's fine, because I wasn't in a very creative mood at the time I first logged in.

Evan, Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link

pitchfork knows best

While Youth Lagoon’s Wondrous Bughouse upped the ante for bong-rip phaser effects, Trevor Powers uses them to support and accent luminous and legible mediations on cosmic circumstances; closer “An Orphan of Fortune” wilfully sinks into impenetrable goo.

legible mediations on legible meditations

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 16 September 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link

Is it really phasers? I hate misidentified effects

lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 September 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link

could be light sabers

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 16 September 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link

Not sure this is so much "pitchfork is dumb", but whats up with the borderline creepy Lolita cover for the Ariana Grande album instead of the actual real cover? Is that the international cover or something?

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 September 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link

lol n/mind apparently that one's just on the main page, the review page itself has the cover i was aware of.

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 September 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link

that was the original cover that made the rounds well before the release date. prob just an error i guess.

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link

not a fan of that review

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 23 September 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link

singling out her voice as the sole redeemable quality of that album is total rockist popism right?

J0rdan S., Monday, 23 September 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

mm, also just generally wrong

flopson, Monday, 23 September 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link

yeah smh

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Monday, 23 September 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link

"Mostly written by two of R&B's most mawkish hawkers, Babyface and Harmony Samuels, it’s built on cliché and tradition, and written professionally to a fault."

there is a deep irony in this line, see if you can pick it out!

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 23 September 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link

hehe

J0rdan S., Monday, 23 September 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link

Who wrote the grande rvw? (Soz, on phone and can't check/don't want to give that site clicks)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 07:06 (ten years ago) link

Andrew Ryce

My god. Pure ideology. (ey), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 08:05 (ten years ago) link

Unsurprised

lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 08:48 (ten years ago) link

ryce writes really weird imo, like he grew up in germany or something

r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 09:36 (ten years ago) link

As someone who grew up in Germany, I wonder if you could expand on that comment.

Position Position, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link

lol @ not wanting to give pitchfork clicks like it's the fucking daily mail

tpp, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:59 (ten years ago) link

"that site"

flopson, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

rankled by "our collective unconscious of music technology"

pervilege as a meme (contenderizer), Friday, 4 October 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link

why? opn review was great, maybe predictable but it hit all the right spots

flopson, Friday, 4 October 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link

good review, yeah, and lopatin deserves it. i just don't like the phrase.

pervilege as a meme (contenderizer), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link

So I haven't had a chance to sit down with the new Lee Ranaldo album yet (just picked it up last night), but it sounds like Colin St. John doesn't like it because it doesn't sound like Sonic Youth?

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 October 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link

i dont understand this site

http://thedissolve.com/features/forgotbusters/212-hannibal-gave-silence-of-the-lambs-fans-a-sequel-c/

what a colossal waste of time

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 11 October 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link

Shouldn't complaints like that belong in this thread?

MarkoP, Friday, 11 October 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link

that's their lead story today btw

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 11 October 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link

jesus, there are at least two egregious spelling errors in the first paragraph alone of that In Solitude review today.

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 October 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link

i just want to make it clear that i'm talking about a THREE THOUSAND WORD meditation on "hannibal" here

i guess this what the av club basically churns out all the time? i just dont get it

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 11 October 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link

It's Rabin doing a version of the same column he did on AV Club.

Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, 11 October 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link

The Dissolve would be a lot better if Phipps didn't just hire all his former co-workers from the AVC as staff at his new website but hey, at least they're diversifying with their freelancers.

Murgatroid, Friday, 11 October 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link

yeah he did this sort of thing to some success at av club. they might be good ideas for a column if the execution was alot better, if you were actually using this odd little datapoint to examine something about that period or about film in general. the idea of blockbusters that generally fade from collective memory is plausibly interesting (and that hannibal is in there, this quickly, suggests that there may not be that many films that qualify or that maybe he should move beyond the 90s; disclosure's are few and far between) though really we're just talking mediocre films that had some ephereal buzz but weren't good enough to build a fanbase or interestingly bad enough to build a cult (and again, suggesting just how shallow this stream is, congo might not qualify). what's kinda disappointing in this glut of pop crit is this adherence to 'recap-brief judgment', there are no new ideas being created or developed here.

balls, Friday, 11 October 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link

ya for sure, i'm not against examining junky or even outright bad films if it can bring us to some deeper understanding of the times or something.

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 11 October 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link

but this just seems like mining trash to no real explicable end.

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 11 October 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link

This whole model is befuddling to me. I have no idea how a/v club built such a sizable audience for 12-paragraph "what [movie] means" and "why [movie] matters" articles at a constant clip. Like once an essay outlines how every movie in the world means something and matters, you would think an audience would get wildly burnt out on that as a concept, but no

smangerz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 11 October 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link

I think you are underselling the power of cult fandom

Bitch Fantastic (DJP), Friday, 11 October 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link


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