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'the irish' = deems, everyone knows this and assents

So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:46 (ten years ago) link

eh factual or dramatic or documentary style or what

i mean there's this show called 'hands' that i can't find anywhere online but shows every few years and it is filmmaker going from town to town just spending an hour each time on a particular craftsman and it is a+ record of (at a guess) 60's ireland as well as being the 'how it's made' of its day, if how it's made focused on men drinking strong tea before making cartwheels or raising honeybees or casting iron in a shed or w/e

'reeling in the years' is a p good newsreel show that does year-to-year summations of the stories, scandals, music, fashion, sport, adverts w/e of that year, it's a good starter

drama- ppl rep for 'love/hate' which deals with post celtic tiger drug/gang drama- not watched but it's not under fierce competition here.

politics- nothing glitzy or as clever as yr jon stewarts etc, but current affairs are well served by yr primetime, frontline, tonight with aforementioned vincent browne i guess.

i am not massively 'cultured' tbh. watch some hurling if you can find a hd clip, that's the stuff. and guinness ads.

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link

jrr tolkien- can't say as any of it resonates strongly tbh. it's a v british work and if we were appropriated anywherre it may well be as the dunlander oathbreakers skulking in ignorance and fear as we faded into nothingness in the far hills away from the light and warm evenings of yr brees and yr brandybucks

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:52 (ten years ago) link

The Dunlendings almost all had beards, dirty faces, and long matted hair. They also wore clothes of leather and animal skin. The weapons carried by Dunlendings were simple but effective for their purpose. They usually fought with clubs and pitchforks, and at times they carried torches to act as lights at night and to burn buildings by day. The buildings that Dunlendings lived and worked in were crude shacks of wood and animal skin that were often sabotaged by wargs and sometimes the Rohirrim

^^^^

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link

So the dunlenders were a bunch of scrappers

乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link

deems are there any irish tv shows you rate and would recommend watching

― 乒乓, Monday, September 2, 2013 8:44 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4hmFPBf-C8

max, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:55 (ten years ago) link

while that was good enough, apparently they were.

we do not get to see, tbh, if, after the king returned, they developed into a race of lugubrious drunkards prone to religion and property development

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link

can't see that max

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link

max's ppl are from roscommon, ireland does not, imo, get much realer than roscommon, like the west but without even 'the fishing' ffs

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:57 (ten years ago) link

i have found hands, thank u thread

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link

sally o'brien and the way she might look at you

max, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link

yeah tho 'my people' who are from ireland comprise only like 1/8 of my total people, maybe 1/16th, i can never remember

max, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link

still i love ireland and i love the irish and love sally o'brien and the way she might look at you and the pint of harp

max, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link

i dont want to hear a fuckin sound out the back of the class at 1:30 dye hear me lads

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link

lmao ty4 sally o'brien

乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link

1/16 is p much purebred for a 'yank' tbf max

these days sally o'brien would skull that pint of harp but it'd be more likely the pint of drugs and she'd lep a fence to rape ya god save ireland

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link

now im not saying things were better nor worse before but a man gets tired repairing fences i'll swear

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link

the relative lack of 'culture' is one of the best things about ireland, the seeping nothing shit that is the aura of content and envelopes everything even if u dont pay attention to the content itself

the benefits of being a small country where there are only a couple of national newspapers and 80% of the tv music etc is imported, like there is no 'stephen fry' in ireland, there is probably some person who interview ppl on rte but there isn't 'david frost', i don't think u even use the term 'national treasure', it just seemed easier to avoid culture in this sense that it is in england

So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link

an exception would be that everyone has some gossip related to u2

So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link

we have culture but it is idk

like, i'd guess that with cultural nationalism as it developed in the late 19th c you didn't get to choose the culture you had, it was tacitly (explicitly?) agreed that 'this' is irish/gaelic culture, 'this' is a unified banner and we must of necessity run with it in order to develop even the concept that we can forge and keep an identity. i think that probably continued right through dev and all that, with the obvious proviso that we had the writers- i think that they would themselves prob acknowledge themselves as outside the system of culture as agreed tho, even as it dominated and swamped them in most of what they did.

the concept of an irish culture that is free to develop and explore itself and be irish culture merely from the fact of irish origin as opposed to conforming to yr historical type will in time imo probably bring us to a comfortable satellite position with the uk, but with curlier writing and the knowledge that we have authenticity in our bones should we ever need it

and we'll always have the writers

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link

rly we have much better ppl to delve into every aspect of that and agree/disagree, would read that thread tho

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:13 (ten years ago) link

oh fuck, fr ted is obv noteworthy as irish tv gets dayo, if you can get into that you will genuinely be close to the heart of something important

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:14 (ten years ago) link

watch fr ted, read o'brien or one of the others, i'm not getting into who you should listen to but personally planxty from my limited exposure do seem like a good broad target, drink some green spot if you can get it. you'd be not far off something true.

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:16 (ten years ago) link

yeah i wondered why u hadn't directed dayo to the the father ted offends the craggy island chinese community episode

So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:16 (ten years ago) link

if i moved to the auld country should i settle in craggy island

乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:18 (ten years ago) link

Set on the fictional Craggy Island, a remote location off Ireland's west coast

;_;

乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link

i have lived on yr craggy island archetype and the broadband isnt great but the girls and the scenery made up for it

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link

oh dont worry, if craggy island is fictional it's because they couldnt settle on just one spot

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Ro9f5pmhM

irish sports analysis is important

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link

here's my island dayo, let me know if it fits the bill as a craggy island substitute

http://photos3.media.pix.ie/3A/6C/3A6CA84D1E22463EBF63D5AFC56D3698-0000314357-0001866253-00800L-30D5E183ABB7405CBDF7BC2BAA703C3B.jpg?w=840

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link

how would someone from a visible minority do in achill?

So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link

Ay that's a craggy island xp

乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link

idk

it's insular and clannish but not in that stupid movie way.

curiosity, and more than likely clumsy reference to it a fair bit at first, but in a hamfisted goodnatured discomforted way, or then again maybe terrified to make any ref at all. hard to say.

not much in the way of whispers before or after you, and i'd like to imagine nothing in the way of outright abuse based on it- we save that for the english ime, and they fuckin love it until they're drunk and looking for trouble anyways.

small community, everyone from outside yr house is a bit strange to you bytimes, kind of thing. ppl from sligo are foreign, and brits are likely as not mental nuisance artists. a quiet lad from bangladesh that got his round in would do ok i think.

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:32 (ten years ago) link

When you go out deems what's a good benchmark for how many pints to consume in a night. Let's say from 9 PM - 3 AM

乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:34 (ten years ago) link

distant dublin cousin of mine is married to someone from i think indonesia and aiui there hasn't been too much racism, they are both drs which probably helps in terms of being accepted but there were difficulties with the marrying a muslim aspect, i think it got smoothed over but who knows what grudges are held by the old ones out in the country

So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link

i dont drink pints but taking yr question in fair spirit call it one every 30-40 mins until lurching into the nightclub round the back at around 1am and then it's double vodka red bulls as fast as the staff can handle ye until kicking out time

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link

What's your poison of choice then

乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link

how would you answer that question with an impersonal you, like if u were writing a style guide for young dubliners?

So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link

xp

i) dublin is different tbf, either side of it and both sides of it
ii) i dunno would being a doctor of southeast asian descent lower any likely impact- it is a bit of a cliche like.

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link

whcih question nakh

fuck ya i typed 'knack' there and had to turn back

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link

my country cousins are now into 'drugs' which i think means skag and a bit of the old thieving from senile relatives apparently

So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link

poison is usually straight and amber coloured, if i'm thirsty it'll be a cider of any quality but v rarely more than 2 pints, a standard 9-3 is rare but given those parameters i'll go shot-for-pint with the lads until the nightclub and prob join them in the stupidity at that stage

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link

drink qn

So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link

heroin! in the country!

i am a terrible naif when it comes to what the youth may or may not be up to, but i dont think unkindly of them for it or anything. my crowd from 97-99 were mainly british (as alluded to) and therefore anything was to be expected of them and spliff was not a stranger to the extended gang, tho sadly i never partook

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link

i would not write a style guide for young dubliners and i cant remember enough of my grammar (for we learn v little of it as a formal subject tbrr) to fully comprehend what is being asked of me there

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link

i remember having the "drugs aren't intrisically evil but if you overdo anything it will make you a tool" convo with my eldest and he looked at me in a way that made me not want to bother sharing my horror stories with him

imagine Brigadoons (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link

what the hell time is it there deems

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:48 (ten years ago) link

it is TRANSFER DEADLINE DAY here gbx. time stops at 22:59:59 so it is that time

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:49 (ten years ago) link

i am currently awaiting confirmation from the FA as to whether i can move to the bedroom

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link


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