Miguel Cabrera Needs His Own Thread

Castellanos up

Wrong thread.

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Singing "Sweet Caroline" today...Beyond the numbers, I think I've become a big Cabrera fan for the same reason I was a fan of Gwynn and Kirby: he really does seem like a big teddy bear. (While aware that two of the three had issues away from the game.)

he beat his wife

Well aware. Think that's right in my post.

i know dude

not trying to call you out, obv he has a lot of fans, but like

ask any of chris brown's fans if they think he's a 'teddy bear' and they'd probably say of course

talk about his skill and his greatness and w/e, but as soon as someone mentions anything outside of the game of baseball itself i just can't take seriously

*take it

what was the result of that case? i can't remember now, and it's not on his wiki page

I assume you're referring to Puckett. I was, and am, a fan of Kirby Puckett the baseball player, and I listed a Chris Brown song on my Top 10 a couple of years ago. Neither is an apology, excuse, or rationalization of anything they do away from a baseball diamond or recording studio. The teddy bear comment refers to the Kirby who let teammates rub his head for good luck. I still remember that guy, and was jarred and saddened to learn of the other Kirby.

Me ten minutes ago: "I'd better put in a parenthetical here, or someone will jump on and I'll get drawn into a silly argument."

But after investigators determined both Cabrera and his wife were "aggressors" in the situation, Patterson said, the first baseman was released. Tigers general manager Dave Dombrowski picked Cabrera up at the station between 7:30 and 8 a.m. Saturday, he added.

http://blog.mlive.com/cutoffman/2009/10/reports_miguel_cabrera_parties.html

Chatter and a Captain Beefheart clip starts here:

Whatupdoe let's go 2009 Tigers get Miguel a lemon pączki

but as soon as someone mentions anything outside of the game of baseball itself i just can't take seriously

I think that's precisely what you did--spelling out what everyone knows anyway.

And if you don't feel like checking the old thread, these quotes are from Birmingham's police chief:

“She was the aggressor who started it even though he came home intoxicated and tried to keep the phone from her,” he said. “She proceeded to make the physical altercation first — after which he pushed her. She got scared because he's a big guy ... fear took over on her part because she had hurt him to some extent, and she called 9-1-1.”

While she clearly sounded panicked in the 9-1-1 call released to the public, Patterson said she was quite calm by the time officers arrived at the couple's house. Through an interpreter, it was eventually determined she started the physical altercation by pulling a gold chain from his neck.

“All she wanted was to have him out of the house,” he said. “That said, if we arrested her we had a 4-year-old that we certainly couldn't leave at home with an intoxicated father. We couldn't leave him alone because he was extremely agitated and intoxicated ... so we would have to arrest them both and place the child in protective services.”

yeah that's what i thought i remembered, that it was found* to be more of a domestic dispute than a "wife-beating"

*by the cops, so take that with a grain of salt i guess

Right.

yeah sorry i don't put stock in cop talk or really any of the 'official' legal stuff/announcements that come out after a celebrity gets in trouble. do put stock in the 911 recording tho.

he's back tonight, 0-for-2 so far

Don't know how that kind of decision works with a player of that stature in this day and age--if he says "I'm okay," does the manager just automatically pencil him in, or does it then depend on the manager's clout (i.e., Leyland probably has as much as any manager right now). Tonight would seem to have more to do with Scherzer than anything else. Still seems like a needless risk, especially when they're doing fine anyway.

Make that two ejections during an at-bat this season.

Cabrera's brutal September (since Aug. 27, technically--got this from SweetSpot): 23 games, .257/.382/.311, one double and one home run. In a full season, that'd be...14 extra-base hits.

It's like the Tigers should consider resting him.

That's baffled me since day one. (Being Aug. 27, I guess.) I understand that another TC was kind of sort of within reach for a time, that there's the chance of another MVP, and--what's really driving this, I suspect--that Cabrera is one of those players who, for reasons either noble or selfish or somewhere in between, likes to stay in the lineup. But the Tigers will go into the postseason with a clearly weakened lineup, and on a personal level, he's damaged, not helped, his MVP case. Again, I have no idea whether this is 100% Leyland's call.

"He's not 100 percent. He's been playing in a lot of pain. He's a real tough guy. I think if anybody knew the pain he's playing in, they probably wouldn't believe it."

http://espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9760412/2013-mlb-playoffs-miguel-cabrera-detroit-tigers-playing-lot-pain-jim-leyland-says

Oh I think we can believe it.

A stubborn myth:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/42494/cabrera-wont-suffer-without-fielder

(I'm expecting normal decline if Cabrera's healthy, worse if he's not; Fielder won't be a factor, though, even though many will say he is.)

That last month of 2013 really put a damper on his whole year--the question of why he was playing every day, and having to watch what could have been among the greatest offensive seasons ever slip away. Much better September this year (after an up-and-down rest of the year). Here's where he'd be today if you took the first five months of 2013 and combined them with this year's September:

AB - 579
H - 211
2B - 35
3B - 1
HR - 51
TB - 403
R - 114
RBI - 148
BB - 82
BA - .364
OBP - .445
SLG - .696

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2014/10/01/cabrera-declines-playoff-share-just-want-ring/16545473/

i love the "why am i writing this" tone throughout this article facebook really wanted me to see

Not promising:

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/25/dave-dombrowski-on-miguel-cabrera-its-worse-than-what-we-ever-would-have-anticipated/

sorry dave

Hey, no worries.

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I was visiting my goddaughter this afternoon and noticed this plate as I was leaving. Long odds. You never know.

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t427/sayhey1/miggy_zps07741f50.jpg

Having a phenomenal partial season; just about to re-enter the yearly leaderboards.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/145158510/miguel-cabrera-set-to-re-enter-al-batting-race

Working on his highest BA and OBA by a wide margin; highest OPS+ of his career, too. His time off and the Tigers' season will possibly break his streak of getting MVP votes every season of his career--he'll probably get a handful of down-ballot votes, though. I would have bet money before the season that his health issues would guarantee further decline.

don't really care about BA so much, but his .367 is waaaaaay ahead of anyone else in the AL (next closest are fielder and kipnis at .320)

@Pele
Good luck tonight to my brother @miguelCabrera in your pursuit for the batting crown !

https://twitter.com/MiguelCabrera/status/639539007832092672

‏@Dan_Dickerson 27s27 seconds ago
...3 hits leave no doubt - Cabrera has won his 4th batting title - becomes just 7th player in AL history to win as many 4 batting titles...

@beckjason
Miguel Cabrera said he wasn't playing at full strength down stretch: "The calf, my ankle. I've been battling my ankle the whole year."

Two HRs off Rivera in the same series.

― Andy K, Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:12 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/miguel-cabrera-detroit-tigers-what-makes-him-great-in-the-words-of-his-peers-030316

Torii Hunter, former Tigers teammate and opponent: We were playing the Yankees in 2013. Mariano Rivera came in to close the game out. He's pitching his butt off. And now Miggy's at the plate.

We had a man on (second). The score is 3-1. It's the top of the ninth. Miggy is battling. You think Mariano is going to throw a cutter. But he kept throwing two-seamers (sinkers) the whole time to mix up Miguel, kind of mess him up because he knows he's good.

He's throwing two-seamers in, and Miguel kept fouling balls off his ankles, his knees. He had to call time out and walk around. Then he threw another two-seamer right by his ankle. Miguel moved his front foot out of the way and hit it to center field, home run, tie game.

(Two days later), guess what? Similar situation. Mariano in the ninth inning, Miggy at the plate, leading off the inning (with the Tigers trailing, 4-2). Mariano this time tries to throw a cutter low and away. Miggy just stays with it. Oppo home run.

I was like, what? I couldn't believe it. I was screaming like a little kid.

Big game yesterday, .327/.401/.588; still one of the top 10 hitters in the game, I would think, although he tailed off after the injury last year, and I expect he'll wear down some as this year progresses.

Game 2000 for Miguel Cabrera
......gets hit # 2400.
....fifth fastest to get there.

(Was 7th fastest to 2000 hits)

5th youngest is what I'm seeing? (They're not nec the same thing.)

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2016/06/12/detroit-tigers-miguel-cabrera/85807474/

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2014/04/detroit_tigers_miguel_cabrera_103.html

It's 5th youngest, not 5th fastest. The first link puts him in a group with Cobb, Hornsby, Yount, and Aaron. Yount, whose career BA probably never exceeded .300, clearly points to youngest, and when I checked Ichiro, he was sitting on 2,696 hits after 2,000 games. There are 48 players with higher career BAs than Cabrera, and many if not most would have reached 2,400 hits faster.

Cabrera hit one out of Comerica tonight.

http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2016/06/20/185223330/tigers-miguel-cabrera-hits-booming-homer-that-lands-outside-comerica-park

2500

https://twitter.com/TigresdeDetroit/status/777635908325703680

Youngest since Aaron in '67. (Would have guess A-Rod and/or Yount got there quicker.)

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/202014110/miguel-cabrera-reaches-2500-career-hits/

or jeter!

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/lets-watch-miguel-cabrera-make-a-run-happen/

this is hilarious

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2pQmMPWEAAj_uu.jpg

@DetroitTigersPR
With his 3-run HR in the 5th inning, @MiguelCabrera now has 1,557 RBI in his career, passing Willie McCovey (1,555) for 44th in MLB history.

man i would've expected 1500+ to land him a lot higher on the list

i don't think i would've, given my suspicion that Harold Baines has more.

(looked it up; he does)