plus, he's a victim of Stills abuse. hard to come back from.
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link
again in that hotel california book people were dumfounded that neil would hang with stills for so long cuz stills was so horrible to him. but neil loved jamming with stills so i guess that was worth it.
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link
probably a lot more of that in the shakey book i haven't read it.
btw never believed that line about Young not reading.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
scott! You'll love the Shakey book!
Young probably got his licks in on Stills too. That story in Sharkey about Young conning Stills into overpaying for a guitar could just be the tip of that cocaine iceberg.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
"Shakey"...stupid pono phone.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
if Stills had been in the Eagles then I would understand the hate for the band that's the genesis of this thread. & I like CSN! but Stills is gross and his CSN(Y) (& springfield) songs are by and large the worst of those bands. BLAHHHHK QUEEEN oh fuck you
― Euler, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
well, the dude did write the lyric "Forgive me if my fantasies might seem a little shopworn."
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
The Eagles didn't need Stills...they had Frey!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
Dallas Taylor's book is worth checking out for lots of disturbing CSN stories.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:38 (ten years ago) link
i worry about pono sometimes
otm
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Saturday, 31 August 2013 05:28 (ten years ago) link
"Doolin-Dalton"
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FkHsCg7rmtw/UBPcSFnuVFI/AAAAAAAAALg/8iSnR8vDo98/s1600/EaglesPlus.jpg
http://youtu.be/-dzW2jzWdds
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
it took four members of the brain trust to write this song:
"Doolin-Dalton" (Glenn Frey, J. D. Souther, Don Henley, Jackson Browne)
and to be fair it actually sounds like an effort, you know? they were trying, man.
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
at least they look like they could hit a gay bar
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link
"Graveyards filled with tombstones, waiting for the names" -- this is not how tombstones work iirc
― Brad C., Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
I always thought this look was pretty dope. Looking forward to finding out why it bombed.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
well, not making "desperado" a single might be one reason!
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
It wasn't?!
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link
and Alice Cooper's was still better.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
"tequila sunrise" and "outlaw man" were the singles.
Year Single Chart Position1973 "Outlaw Man" Billboard Pop Singles 591973 "Tequila Sunrise" Billboard Pop Singles 64
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
the album got to number 41 in the states. did better on canadian charts. which makes sense as canada was suffering from stampeders fever.
http://s.cdon.com/media-dynamic/images/product/music/album/image5/rubes_dudes_rowdies_import-stampeders-1195523-frnt.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
stampedin' into your heart!
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/2CPt3eSBJiQ/maxresdefault.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
As with the first LP, you can spy the path of an alternate Eagles here: a mildly ambitious country-rock band that petered out around 1975. Fair to say this is the most Leadon-influenced album?
― col, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
my pal michael robbins wrote the best Eagles poem. i forgot about it. i wish i could copy it here but i don't know how to copy googlebooks stuff. its here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=SC-ptkaj8UQC&pg=PT43&lpg=PT43&dq=%22michael+robbins%22+%22desperado%22&source=bl&ots=MxctQbFe4e&sig=1YzF915aX3GqB0iedfP4tWRfOCA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=UhAiUvPuE_PHsATGkYHIDg&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22michael%20robbins%22%20%22desperado%22&f=false
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
Yeah this is really good, can hardly fault this at all. Maybe have Henley singing the whole thing, The Eagles need a bit of grit and he's the raspiest. This has plenty grit even without that though, and the great merit of cutting in with a minor chord or something whenever things start to get trite ('lay down your law books...' - in fact the end of every verse, which is nicely done).
It's a good piece of writing, nice arrangement (harmonica suits them well), and pretty much ideal to open a concept album. I suspect said concept album is going less interesting places than it might, but that's another day. Best since Witchy Woman anyway.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
I love this song, not gonna front
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 August 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
I like this one. It achieves that rare feat of a concept album track being able to both set up a narrative and push the story ahead within a 3:30 run time. The "Better keep on movin'" part reminds be of the Derek & The Dominoes version of "Little Wing".
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 August 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
Never heard this album (apart from the singles) all the way through. Henley's vocals on this reminds me of Rod Stewart a little. Was ready to launch into a Two Minute Hate, but it's a good song.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/4vX9v-RF9Es/hqdefault.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
ha, everyone was so ready to hate. hey, this song is good!
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
i was looking forward to this album tbrr
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
i was talking to this great guy i know - he's a musician who performs under the name Dredd Foole - and i asked him what his earliest memories of the eagles were. what he thought of them at the time. and i kinda figured he would wrinkle his nose and all that, but he said that Desperado was an album that really meant a lot to him at the time. that album and Carney by Leon Russell. those albums fit his mood/frame of mind at that moment. it made me want to play them both.
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
My favourite Eagles record fwiw
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
(I used to have that first Dredd Foole album!)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
Missing two pages (stupid Googlebooks), but here's Grace Lichtenstein's essay on the Desperado lp from Stranded
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link
I had the first dredd foole and the din album too!
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
I like that essay; stoked for the album now
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
This is decent, but it kind of makes me think that, in their heart of hearts, they really wanted to be the west coast Band.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
^^^
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
I had the Dredd Foole and the Din album too. Downloaded it to hear it again a few months ago, in fact.
― 誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
I was 12 or 13 the first time I heard this album, my dad or step-mother owned a copy.
This track felt portentous, like the opening scenes of a grown-up Western. I'd seen "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" but but this seemed darker and meaner: Bill Dalton is not buying either God's will or the law books, he's cussing, he's clearly a serious outlaw. His sidekick appears out of nowhere and joins up like one of the Magnificent Seven. They ride out. To be continued!
At this point I was totally on-board. I loved how the album cover looked like the Time-Life "Old West" books I was getting in the mail:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/Thecowboys.jpg
― Brad C., Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
Don't get the love for this one; find it rather dull and unspectacular country-rock, especially for an album opener.
― Lee626, Saturday, 31 August 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link
Wow, the Time-Life "Old West" series!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8kZDZ4eXXk
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
http://img0.etsystatic.com/001/0/5863214/il_570xN.352465900_mckg.jpg
― scott seward, Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link
in the 70's there were Osmonds...and lots of cowboys.
and Osmonds dressed as cowboys. obviously. from time to time anyway.
― scott seward, Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:08 (ten years ago) link
[osmondscrazyhorses.jpg] haha xpost
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:12 (ten years ago) link
Well they were a little bit country iirc
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link
The story of the Desperado artwork:
http://youtu.be/lcTTdwv1Xp4
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:32 (ten years ago) link