A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

idk why but I always get the feeling that Graham Nash is a secret dick. He seems chill and decent p much all the time, but in a way that makes me suspicious that he's just doing that bcz Stills and Crosby couldn't hide it

unsupportable theory, just the weird way my brain works

He is a secret dick. Every quote I've read suggests he's intensely conscious about PR and projecting affability. Besides, Neil Young must have had a reason to always find excuses to stop hanging out with him.

i don't know if i've heard this before or if it's reminding of something else with a similar chord progression.

pplains otm re Chilton

maybe Neil just wanted to play with his train sets more

Is Neil a good guy? I mean I'd love to hang out with him, but I'm not sure I'd be expecting a mellowed-out good time as such.

I have friends who've worked for Nash creating album art and they say good things about him fwiw

love neil but i'd bet he's pretty prone to dickishness.

Neil's dickishness is more charming than Nash's mushy hippie passive aggressive kindness

I mean, I'd kick both out of bed and so would you.

maybe for celeb watching but irl I'd rather chat with Nash than try to figure out Neil's moods

xp ha

i would love to hang out with graham nash! he probably knows where all the good restaurants are.

Neil seems like a bit of an ornery dude, like I dunno that he doesn't hide how he feels as much --seems like he could be hard to work with if he didn't like you but otherwise, I mean it's Uncle Neil!

neil though...would be like hanging out with dylan. does he like me? does he think i'm stupid? wait, when he asked me how i liked the lobster was he being sarcastic? oh god he hates me! oh no maybe if i tell him again how awesome he is...

too much pressure.

he came across fairly dickish more than once shakey.

he was mean to America. America! like, i get that they were phony bubblegum ripoffs, but you're friendly with the fucking EAGLES.

well, I'd insist he pick up the check

actually i guess that applies even more to Randy Newman (who is surely a dick)

but those America guys might be total dicks, too. who knows.

my pal george on marthas vineyard opened for neil and dylan when he was drumming for dinosaur and i was really hoping he would have juicy stories but he said they never saw those dudes they would just appear on stage when it was time to play. they didn't hang with anyone. probably depends on their mood. they are probably so sick of people.

someone told me a story about a renowned dick. a local guy here was in new orleans having dinner with people and one of the people was in los lobos and at the table next to theirs was paul simon and everyone at the los lobos table was talking about richard thompson and paul simon leaned in and asked them who they were talking about and they told him richard thompson and paul simon had no idea who that was. i thought that was weird. someone told me that yesterday. also thought it was weird that they were dining with a guy from los lobos given the whole simon/los lobos debacle.

just thought i'd share that.

paul simon is secretly lame! haha.

I don't know—never having heard of Richard Thompson feels like a good thing to me. I wish I'd never heard of him.

paul simon is secretly lame! haha.

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oh come on -- everyone paul simon's age should know who richard thompson is esp if they used britfolk melodies to sing about parsley

lyrics aside, "mood" makes me think of some throwaway Stills/ Manassas cut (p great album btw)

There's a lot of things Paul Simon doesn't know.

He goes, "Yeah, I did this in Louisiana with this zy decko guy." And he kept saying it over and over. And I remember having to tell him, "Paul, it's pronounced zydeco. It's not zy decko, it's zydeco."

haha!
oh paul simon
i should have said everyone in his peer group, not his age
i would def expect paul simon to know who richard thompson is by name if not necessarily by sight

I was at the dentist yesterday and he was telling me how his kids went to school with Neil's kids, which he was unaware of until Neil started showing up at PTA meetings ("looking like a homeless guy") and chatting up the other parents. he said Neil was really nice, invited folks back to his ranch, which he said was huge but not ostentatious, really pretty psychedelic stained glass, barns, etc.

Turned out it was all a ruse to get them to invest in PONO.

i worry about pono sometimes

Whatever else Young's a superb dad by all accounts. It wouldn't surprise me that he and Pegi would be sweethearts to PTA parents; the latter want nothing out of him.

yeah i wouldn't be surprised if neil was nicer to just some random person that would talk to him about cars or the weather or something than a fan who loved his music

fwiw my dentist was not a "fan" of Neil and didn't recognize who he was

last year at the bridge benefit we were sitting behind this couple and their 2 little kids, and at some point I told the wife how cute her kids were. she said that a couple of years ago her sister had been babysitting the kids and took them to a diner near Redwood City. This guy who turned out to be Neil Young was ordering coffee and noticed the kids, and came over to the table and told the sister how adorable they were etc, he ended up sitting down at the table with her and talking to the kids and playing with them. Sister says to the waitress after he left, 'what a nice man' and the waitress gives her a look and says, 'That was Neil Young'

I was just about yelling at the woman HOLY SHIT YOUR SISTER DOESN'T KNOW WHO NEIL YOUNG IS?

but it was a really beautiful story

Paul Simon also doesn't know who Neil young is.

that woman was paul simon

woah

Sweet baby Paul

This song is like the bastard child of Alex Chilton (pplains otm) and Stephen Stills (will otm, but lyrically this is like him too--remember his tmi jams "Make Love To You" and "Fair Game"?) (not Manassas, but whatever). Was this the song that got dropped for "Nightingale"? Weird that it never got collected on an album--you'd think with so little rare or unreleased Eagles material it would have been on the box set or something.

Also, I had to grab my copy of CSN to sure I had "Fair Game" correct, and Chilton's Free Again was directly under it in the stack. Eerie.

"Make Love To You" and "Fair Game"?

ha i don't know these but going to listen to them right now

I bet Neil is fine to hang with, but his circle is pretty tight. Randy Newman is a bro, don't think he's a dick, have talked with him a few times and he was cool. There is no way Paul Simon did not know Richard Thompson, or if he didn't, he had surely heard him in Fairport, or whatever. Maybe he misheard? Los Lobos guys I have heard could be dicks. To this day I know people who dread booking them because they shut the place down. They are always the last to leave, with the bar dry.

Was reading the Sammy Hagar book, and he and Eddie played the Bridge School benefit once (!). Paul Simon was there and asked Eddie if he wanted to do "Sound of Silence" and Eddie didn't know it. Now that I believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzZsl1YVkZw

Dying here. That EVH cameo is straight out of St. Sanders.

Is Neil a good guy? I mean I'd love to hang out with him, but I'm not sure I'd be expecting a mellowed-out good time as such.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2012/10/the-vexing-simplicity-of-neil-young.html

"On the ride Young told me that he didn’t read, but I might have guessed anyway. He was a reserved and slightly grave figure, and talking with him was like being trapped with someone whose mind had no reach. He could only talk about what he felt or had seen or thought. I couldn’t respond to one of his remarks by raising an idea it had made me think of and have him make some connection to some other thought and then respond to that. A part of him seemed to have been arrested at a very early age."

plus, he's a victim of Stills abuse. hard to come back from.

again in that hotel california book people were dumfounded that neil would hang with stills for so long cuz stills was so horrible to him. but neil loved jamming with stills so i guess that was worth it.

probably a lot more of that in the shakey book i haven't read it.

btw never believed that line about Young not reading.

scott! You'll love the Shakey book!

Young probably got his licks in on Stills too. That story in Sharkey about Young conning Stills into overpaying for a guitar could just be the tip of that cocaine iceberg.