http://straightvoices.tumblr.com/post/59408391566/berelyn-lgbtq-people-who-use-their-sexuality
― RAWK of Agger's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link
yeah this has gotta be a joke
― crüt, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link
god i love tumblr
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link
can we nuke it from orbit
― HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link
it only started in the last few days, i wd bet money it's a direct response to some gay meanies being mean about Macklemore after the VMAs
― RAWK of Agger's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link
can we stop linking the troll tumblr now
― rooibos in disguise (wins), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
http://straightvoices.tumblr.com/post/59482893460/daniellekerwick-manchesterpride-noh8
thought this said "no hoho" at first
― crüt, Thursday, 29 August 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
in fact they can be more effective in fighting bigotry because they're not emotionally biased
this needed to be a lot subtler tbh, 6/10 effort must troll harder
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 August 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
definitely some tumblr kids who think ^ that way, tho
haven't figured out if the tumblr is reblogging things to support them or to mock them but the reblogged content is pretty painfully sincere
― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 29 August 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
well maybe not the "heterophobia hurts" img macro, that seems too perfect to be real
― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 29 August 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link
oh lord Jupiter in the sky, please make judicious use of some lightning bolts
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 August 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link
tipped off by that tumblr:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfag_and_guydyke
― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
I've run into that before and have no idea what I feel about it
― space is deep (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link
"don't mind me ladies, i'm a guydyke!"
― imagine Brigadoons (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
I'm only into the really feminine lesbians, though.
― space is deep (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link
"they identify with homosexual people of another sex, not as one of them."
― crüt, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link
i feel pretty poorly about it for reasons i hope are obvious, starting with the terminology
― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link
i'm willing to believe that there might be an articulate defence of the concept, but it just looks like some terrible corny dude joke from here
― imagine Brigadoons (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link
being attracted to the opposite sex, but only those members who aren't into you really puts a spin on the heteronormativity complex
I mean, I have a gay friend who's usually annoyed because there aren't too many gay men who he's been attracted to who share his tastes, but it's not like he's identifying as only being into straight men
― space is deep (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
It's skeevy to say that you identify with/are attracted to an entire class of people <i>because</i> of their class membership. It's fetishization like jungle fever or yellow fever.
Being attracted to people who aren't attracted to you is a real thing though. I've definitely known guys who were not transgender but had a bit of a feminine feel to them and were attracted to queer girls. They were kind of intense guys who were trying to avoid the pitfalls of traditional relationships, and of emotional intimacy/codependence in general.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
As for women being attracted to gay men, there's papers on fushijoji (Japanese slash fangirls) that say that a big part of the attraction of reading m/m comics is being able to imagine yourself as <i>either</i> the active <i>or</i> the passive partner in the relationship, and sort of step out of the traditional passive role for women. (Those roles being a lot more sharply defined in Japan.) So it's not an alienation from your body, or from how your body is viewed by society, as is the case for transgender people, but an alienation from the role you are expected to occupy in a romantic relationship.
Okay carry on.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
i'm just feeling this like a permutation of the demisexual / gray-a strain of tumblr sexuality that states "i'm only sexually attracted to ppl who categorically do not want to fuck me"
like i understand that there is a lot of space for various & sundry queernesses in nominally heterosexual people / pairing but come on these ppl are all teens, right?
― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link
like isn't this just another expression of the unrequited everything of teen life
― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link
ha well put
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:06 (ten years ago) link
"stop opressing us" - a curious teen
― sleepingbag, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link
tbf teens probably are oppressed but it's just that everyone agrees they fucking deserve it
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
i do think forapper does have some decent comparison points to make tbh but i'm not sure how that phenomenon plays out here
mostly i'm kinda astounded anyone thought girlfag would be a useful term in fostering respect & understanding
― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link
I'm only attracted to otherkin btw.
― Henry Charles Hovell-Thurlow-Cumming-Bruce Hovell-Thurlow-Cumming-Br (seandalai), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:58 (ten years ago) link
I dunno if I'd say "more attracted", but I'm definitely more interested in queer women than straight in part because they're much more likely to understand my own queerness. The "alienation from the role you are expected to occupy in a romantic relationship" definitely plays into that. Plus, I'm totally down with a lot of the gender presentations, etc. queer women display that your average straight guy might find offputting. Otoh, the idea of identifying as a "guydyke" makes me vomit.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link
I definitely have a tendency to like slightly "tomboyish" or less "girly" girls, and I don't even identify as queer or think of this as a particularly queer thing (although your explanation makes perfect sense). I always just thought of it as preferring women who can escape the pressure of "performing" their gender role all the time and thus seem more, idk, real? My male friends sort of fit this as well.
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link
― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, September 3, 2013 6:56 PM (1 hour ago)
this is a conclusion i often come to w/ the a/demi/unicornsexuals, etc -- most of these people are kids with crazy hormones and access to a community of other kids with crazy hormones
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:41 (ten years ago) link
I saw an actress referred to as not overly feminine in an article and almost choked laughing because she doesn't seem at all masculine, at least in a non-gender normative way to me. People are weird.
― space is deep (mh), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link
come on these ppl are all teens, right?
― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, September 3, 2013 6:56 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:04 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is true ime/u of almost everything you find on tumblr that is funny or weird and stupid and why imo its better to marvel at it as pure teen lyfe instead of disparaging it as dumb social justice otherkin whatever
― max, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link
teen sexuality is kind of its own thing, it's like a really sensitive mic with the input level set way too high
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link
I think some of this weird sexuality extends though. Som people.... never change
― space is deep (mh), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 01:07 (ten years ago) link
max otm
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 02:50 (ten years ago) link
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:06 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha kind of a truth bomb
― 2 Steenz (some dude), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link
we're assuming some people really never mature past 'weird teen lyfe' and that explains a lot, yes?
― space is deep (mh), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link
stuff happens when you're a teen & sometimes you never get over it
― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
that girlfag/guydyke wikipedia article is especially bunk because poppy z brite is an actual trans man and mary renault was a lesbian
― 1staethyr, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link
http://31.media.tumblr.com/b49137c0c5b618952f1f66edf6a6ccd0/tumblr_mt86xxhsPe1rnkmu0o1_500.png
― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link
OTM
― i'm not racist, i just dislike rap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link
omg at TEACH ME
― WHAT DOES SAMANTHA FOX SAY (DJP), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link
that's the one that makes me reach for my revolver
hey elmo... teach me
― fresh (crüt), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link
What is the "you're probably a rapist/pedophile" one?
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
also what is "people probably aren't ready for this yet?"
^ this guy's such a D5
― fresh (crüt), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
fun privilege game
― sleepingbag, Monday, 16 September 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link
oh the rapist one is queer-specific i get it
not sure I understand the other one
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link