Football journalism

ronay is okay but can't be doing with hyde personally.

I can't remember much about Hyde or his style, is he quite like Ronay then? Will stan for Ronay tbh, he gets away with too much in terms of writing pointless articles that are all persiflage and no content, but he still makes me laugh quite a lot and I find some his ideas quite interesting, even when I disagree. I'd just be happier if they handed the whole thing over to Wilson and Cox.

i'm a not a super fanboy or anything but at least she keeps it on a fairly evenly vicious keel

Oh her, yeah just googled, I recognise the picture.

ronay was alright when he was adding flighty filigree here and there but now he's really become a bit of an overindulged monster, and moreso than his own stuff his influence on others is simply terrible

he seems very bored now.

for me, hyde just carries that "lost in showbiz" sneering tone into the football stuff. and they always wheel her out for really big obvious stories.

i like a proper sneer. demonstrably not as easy as it looks

Cox is such a dull writer.

She's great on her rare sorties to football weekly.

Ronay's always trying to capture that 'like a medieval ox hurled over the battlements' line. In fairness he'll usually get somewhere close, but you only really need to skim his articles searching for it.

that's cox's appeal, makes you feel smugger for reading him

reading this thread I frequently wonder why the luminaries of ILX don't attempt to show up these objects of scorn and envy by besting them in their field. sure spend enough time thinking & writing about football

demonstrably not as easy as it looks

haha, or perhaps easier!

imago should we start a proper football website and how to do so. i would def prefer it to ilx at this stage tbh.

Shall we try an ILF Weekly podcast, is that what you want?

both serviceable ideas

WS (would stream)

list of informative and concise paul wilson columns

― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 11:29 (1 month ago)

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Fraser Forster, who has emerged as the leading contender to challenge Joe Hart as England’s No 1, could emerge as a target for Manchester United. AC Milan have already declared an interest in the 25-year-old Celtic keeper.

But United could step in. Although the general form of Reds keeper David de Gea has improved, he is still prone to unforced errors.

And it is known goalkeeping coach Chris Woods is on the lookout for potential replacements. It is understood Fraser is high on the list.

After the Gunners' 4-1 vivisection of 30 million pounds-wasted-on-summer-transfer-fees Norwich, a clearly besotted Chelsea supporter sidled up to me at the Football Factory and asked whether he could buy me a pint. Now, if there's one thing I never trust, it's a seemingly pleasant guy wearing a John Terry jersey. After all, Terry himself must have acted friendly to Wayne Bridge at first too, right?

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/kickingandscreaming/id/576?cc=5739

fuck this gets so much worse.

he is let to the front of the toilet queue because he is an gooner by upset man utd fans because fergie retired

I told my new Ghanaian best friend that from now on he was to refer to Arsenal's next savior as Aaron Rams-messi, but that the Welshman's sick corkscrew dribble in the box that left three Norwich defenders flat on their derrieres wasn't even our best goal of the game.

Can a Frimpong hat trick be far behind? That's three goals, not a yellow, yellow and red card.

How fitting was it that Robert Pires -- who, along with Thierry Henry, Dennis Bergkamp and Patrick Vieira formed the attacking spine of that storied unbeaten side -- should be in the stands to witness the latest sleight-of-foot magic unfolding in the 18th minute. (Although I'm pretty sure that Cazorla waxes his eyebrows, which none of the Invincibles would have considered.)

But anyone who has watched Arsenal this season knows that the only holding the Welshman does is after the game when he clutches the bottle of champagne awarded to the man of the match.

fucking hell

pure ideology

Before that, however, Brendan Rodgers must try to find a way of muddling past West Bromwich Albion, which will be no easy feat. Steve Clarke's side are just a top striker and left-back away from being a serious force and are inspired by a player whom Rodgers would love to be able to call on and fill in for Coutinho. If Stéphane Sessègnon is on song on Saturday, the Baggies could beat Liverpool for the fourth time in a row. PD

perfectly captures my unease about tomorrow tbf

in turn perfectly capturing how the weekly lfc unease parade is mostly self-absorbed twaddle

long may it continue

the important thing to remember is that every time a midtable team's best player plays does well against a europa league level team, they are PAYING THE PRICE for not buying him to use as a substitute

Gary Medel has long been a ‘football hipster’ favourite, a part of Marcelo Bielsa’s beloved Chilean side that went to the 2010 World Cup. The “Chilean Gattuso” will provide plenty of tenacity, commitment and the odd yellow card.

any reference to football hipsterism in journalism is obviously execrable but if there is a football hipster favourite from the that side surely it would be isla?

michael cox is on dis ting, v nicely understated

― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:54 (1 year ago)

Szczesny has also developed his game thanks to increased competition -- by his own admission. "I raised my standards when Lukasz [Fabianski] got his chance in goal," he told Arsenal's match-day programme earlier this season. "When you realise your position is not safe, you give it that little bit more -- 110 percent rather than 100 percent." Which, using the footballer-to-fan percentage conversion scale, means Szczesny wasn't giving 100 percent.

WHO IS ILKAY GUNDOGAN?

He was born to Turkish/German parents and played for Bochum and Nurnberg before signing for Dortmund in 2011.

A central midfielder who can act as playmaker - not too unlike Shinji Kagawa.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2498173/Manchester-United-need-sign-midfielder--Rene-Meulensteen.html

they don't mention whether he can play on the wing

What was Bayern Munich manager Pep Guardiola doing at a trendy London eatery on Friday afternoon... meeting Luis Suarez’s agent?

Sportsmail can reveal the Spaniard - who joined the German giants in the summer - was in the Big Smoke over the weekend making the most of the international break with a trip to London.

But was he here on business or pleasure?

Guardiola enjoyed lunch in Borough Market’s lively restaurant Eliott’s Cafe - and was joined by Liverpool forward Suarez’s representative.

Of course, the Anfield hero’s agent is non other that Guardiola’s brother Pere.

The Barcelona legend, who was with his family, posed for photographs with fellow restaurant goers who recognised him.

Friday’s Guardiola family rendezvous certainly got chins wagging among the more knowledgable diners at the restaurant.

Was it simply a leisurely Friday afternoon family get together? If so, why were the Spaniards meeting in London?

Suarez to Bayern Munich? Surely not?

Yesterdays second captains podcast was quite exceptional, i thought.

Yes, really enjoyed that thanks. Two stories, neither perennials nor obscure at all, and then run them for all they're worth. The speakers seem to know less than the Football Weekly lot, but they more than make up for it with a bit of focus.

This was a really good thread btw, far too long since we've had one similar.

Guardiola enjoyed lunch in Borough Market’s lively restaurant Eliott’s Cafe - and was joined by Liverpool forward Suarez’s representative.

Good choice!

been catching up on some recent sunday times styles and now feel certain camilla long is the gatekeeper to b ronay's keymaster

just sayin like

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1. Ask Ashley Young to dive more
2. Start properly initimdating referees again
3. Bring back Fergie time. I can't believe last night's game has finished already.
4. Ban some journalists from the club. Specifically the ones who are printing the results and league table
5. Deflect the attention by picking fights with other managers and call it mind games.

^^^an example of non-Menippean satire

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-reveal-plan-make-6394831

Fresh from banning ncjMedia titles , Newcastle United have broken from the pack to move in a new direction in terms of their relationship with the rest of the print media.

They have told reporters from national titles who are working in the North East that they will no longer be given access to their players between matches this season and will instead give those “privileges” to organisations that pay them.

This has never happened before. They are the first Premier League football club to try to do this and it will be interesting to see what kind of reaction it garners.

At least one national newspaper has delivered an unequivocal ‘no’ but the club seem determined to test the water on an unpopular plan.

The club have rather optimistically graded the packages as bronze, silver and gold with the level of payment determining the level of access.

Which package includes access to Steven Taylor?

need a few joe kinnear press conferences to whet the appetite imo

Newcastlol remain at the bleeding edge of finding new ways to make us lol

press shd retaliate by refusing to name them - use references to "a medium-sized northeastern club" - or any of the players in any match reports