an attempt at a general "What are you currently digging re. classical music" thread

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Listened to mvt 1 on Youtube and OMG in love. Buying this album from iTunes atm. (First time I'm paying for Sibelius.)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link

any recommendations on arvo part? i'm hooked on fur alina right now - but i'm really curious about his choral stuff.

brio, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

xp

i like Pärt's Berliner Messe a lot

Dacca to Environ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 09:47 (ten years ago) link

Has anyone heard this disc?:
http://www.allmusic.com/album/journeys-mw0002512436

I heard the very tail end of the Schoenberg on the radio this morning and am quite intrigued.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link

Btw, that Hahn recording of the Schoenberg Violin Concert has been on heavy rotation in my apartment.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link

The Sibelius is a real ear opener too, which is no small feat after its 10,000 previous recordings.

Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 23:46 (ten years ago) link

I like Hahn's Bach myself.

Call the Cops, Thursday, 22 August 2013 11:08 (ten years ago) link

I got to see the Emerson Quartet play the Rasumovskys a few nights ago in NYC... That was some high-octane, blisteringly paced stuff. I felt a bit bad for Philip Setzer a few times when his intonation got a little slippery, but other than that the playing was pretty air-tight. The final movement of the C major was so lightning-quick it was amazing--I'm not sure if it *should* be played that fast but it was cool to see that it could.

I've been on a real Henryk Szeryng kick lately; that guy was unbelievable.

Clarke B., Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link

I've been listening to it non-stop because I need to memorize it but man Kurt Weill's "Lost in the Stars" is fucking stellar

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link

I'm happily coming around to "classical with vocals" too which has long been a stumbling block for me. (Sorry DJP.) The vocal parts of Mahler's symphonies (and of course Das Lied von der Erde), Schubert's Winterreise (and other various songs), the Herreweghe recordings of Bach's cantatas--all have been blowing me away lately.

Clarke B., Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link

I had a brief obsession with Hilary Hahn after seeing her play the Stravinsky Violin Concerto at an auditorium near my university. She was greeting people after the concert, and I had this image in my head that I was going to go up to her and invite her to hang out with me and my friends around campus and come to some stupid college party or something, but when I actually got up to her it was just "Uh, hi. You...were...really good." I think it turned out she had a boyfriend anyway.

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link

Ha, well, I don't feel so bad about my occasional fantasies about being a young Martha Argerich's page-turner then...

Clarke B., Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link

lol

xpost

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link

Xxp yeah her bf husband whatever is my coworker's friend.

Ws barefoot argerich but that goes without saying p much.

Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 22 August 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

sund4r hahn did a recording of four ives sonatas a couple of years ago w/ valentina lisitsa i liked alot, it's on spotify.

which reminds me does anyone have any rolling or updating classical playlists or classical playlists in general i guess they can recommend. something like tim rutherford-johnson's radio rambler playlist. it can be modern comp or obv old recordings or whatever, any effective filter will work.

thought this was interesting - http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/20/arts/music/petition-wants-met-gala-dedicated-to-gay-rights.html. stoked to see this btw, netrebko's tatiana is supposed to be fantastic.

balls, Friday, 23 August 2013 04:13 (ten years ago) link

any recommendations on arvo part? i'm hooked on fur alina right now - but i'm really curious about his choral stuff.

I think this disc is a rather good introduction to Pärt's choral work, it has most of his best pieces in that idiom. I haven't heard this particular recording, but I have other stuff by Polyphony and they're really good, so I can't imagine they'd screwed this one up.

Tuomas, Friday, 23 August 2013 11:11 (ten years ago) link

Add this record on top of that, and I'd say you have a nice overall look to his vocal work.

Tuomas, Friday, 23 August 2013 11:18 (ten years ago) link

I always forget there's the "Hilary Hahn is cute" factor. I genuinely love her technically flawless performances, every new recording of hers quickly becomes a favourite. I've listened to her un-recorded but Youtube'd Prokofiev 1 probably 20-30 times

ship who you wanna ship (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 23 August 2013 12:29 (ten years ago) link

Reading the "she plays like a robot" comments on violinist message boards is very frustrating

ship who you wanna ship (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 23 August 2013 12:31 (ten years ago) link

Fgti imma look up that Prokofiev 1. That's a favorite vc of mine.

Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 August 2013 13:07 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2RbO3a3-B8

I've posted it before
It is revelatory

ship who you wanna ship (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 23 August 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link

Ars Nova did a record of Arvo Pärt recently as well. I imagine that is really good as well.

Frederik B, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:04 (ten years ago) link

I think I might have a thing for people who 'play like robots', probably because it's really hard for me to do.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 24 August 2013 11:59 (ten years ago) link

I'll try to listen to that Prokofiev tonight (hopefully in MI). Will look for the Ives too.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 24 August 2013 12:00 (ten years ago) link

Discovered that Parmegiani's La Création du Monde works surprisingly well in a car btw.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 24 August 2013 12:13 (ten years ago) link

this lp

http://www.discogs.com/Bach-Kurt%C3%A1g-Busoni-Andreas-Grau-G%C3%B6tz-Schumacher-piano-duet-Piano-Duet/release/3281485

the kurtag transcriptions and the art of fugue are very familiar, the busoni is new to me

There are a lot of subjective opinions (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 24 August 2013 17:26 (ten years ago) link

Have a listen to the serkin-goode recording of that busoni piece-- it was the first time I really loved that music.

Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 24 August 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link

that is a prestige piano duo huh, i like goode in beethoven and serkin in mozart

what are your favourite bruckner symphonies?

now returning to early cage and cowell

There are a lot of subjective opinions (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 26 August 2013 02:05 (ten years ago) link

just went to see billy budd. it was f'ing cool. read a few reviews after and I was kind of surprised how more isn't made in the reviews of the way the powerful, cosmic forces and powerful human desires expressed on the ship all seem to be fashioned from the same roll and swell of the sea. It was all 'Vere sacrifices Budd for his country' and things like that, but that seems facile to say the least.

the melancholy air at the beginning gather force and strength with recollection, the vast sea gathering strength and body, gaining formal and material meaning in the shanties and work-ditties of the swabs, so that the ship's microcosm seems merely like a continuation of the same inhuman and elemental aspects of the sea.

Claggart seems to be a malignant and grotesque son of the the dark waters - the darkness is present in the music at the beginning, grim and brooding, and from that emotion or tone, all things can come, though good sounds as isolated as a bird's cry on the wind, or the weak but brave cheer of a sailors pipe. Claggart himself says he emerges from the chaos, gives the chaos order, and with his Master of Arms stick seems like a grotesque parody of the conductor - putting form upon the music. Yet the sea is *not* chaotic, it is darkly rhythmic.

the opera is a progression from darkness to darkness to darkness: the elderly isolation of Captain Vere at the beginning, out of which emerges life on the HMS Indomitable, the sleep of Budd from which he is woken to be tempted, the evil of Claggart - his genesis in darkness, and in the latter acts, the isolating mist that hangs around the ship, and in all the men's actions and thoughts. Captain Vere's attempt to shine a light through books, and learning, is snuffed and mocked by the forces that rowl around him. He is a glass, but not the glass he thinks he is - i.e. not of light, but of the greatest darkness: good men doing ill in the belief they are doing right.

in fact the only clarity comes with the moments of conflict - out of the mist emerges a French ship, and it's here that formal and material shaping given by human order is given fullest expression in the way all the elements of ship combine in action. How Britten embodies the structures of a ship's crew in the music was particularly forceful - the notion that the music is given structure by the order of the ship is also conversely presented by the notion that song (and music) gives order to the inchoate forces with which we are surrounded.

yet outside of action, in the becalming stillness of the mist those structures themselves become malign - the articles of war order to which men are chained when their desires tell them otherwise. At the end those forces that right at the beginning the sailors were seen to implicitly embody in their actions and song, for better or for worse, are heard in a different form, rising up in the crew's powerful and mutinous murmur against the death of a singer and a good man. Yet like all action in the opera, apart from the single fatal blow, this too subsides - like the swell of the ocean it rises but also falls, and the final sound is of a man's unaccompanied footsteps retreating into the final darkness.

it was all really impressive and awe-inspiring, and i'm left with a feeling i can't quite describe. perhaps it's the britten connection that reminds me of standing on the beach at Aldeburgh in the middle of winter, looking at the granite waves and dull sky, the salt smell and the gulls. there's also obv a deep strand of englishness, not good or bad englishness, but like the sea a sort of bleak pastoral, of being fucked up by our rigidity and rules, a bleak non-simplicity to our feelings as a consequence of a fucked-up entangling of shd and want, of not being able to act in an uncomplicated manner on desire, a resentlfulness of the shd. the null quality of the grey sky, not an existential void, but an even more negative thing of substance. the miserable beauty of being solitary in this amazing misty, sea-drenched, northern archipelago of europe.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link

love this image of forster, britten and eric crozier working on budd in aldeburgh:

http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/3eac94f9-2d27-48ac-a036-e57eb670ef8c.img

Fizzles, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link

Amazingly stated fizzles. I have seen billy budd on video but not in person. I have been lucky enough to see britten's midsummer nights dream and turn of the screw live though. His dramatic instincts are so uncanny. Fuck I wanna listen to budd right now.

Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link

likewise, but i've only got a video of Peter Grimes so that'll have to do

RAWK of Agger's (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

So, no discussion of Caroline Shaw's "Passacaglia", which won the Pulitzer a few days ago?

listening to this now, really into it. love the way some of the vocals intentionally wobble out of tune like synths.

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I didn't realize Gustav Leonhardt had died until a few days ago :( My father's harpsichordist of choice. Great conductor, too

Cantata 45: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSpFxaskUSM

you and me against the board (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 10 October 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link

Yes I think he died a few afetr announcing his retirement from perf due to illness.

Very tasty series of concerts at City Uni:

Here's the programme of the 2013/14 concert series at City University:

Tues Nov 5th, 6.30pm: launch event for Ian Pace's release of the 5-CD set of Michael Finnissy's 'The History of Photography in Sound'

Tues Nov 12th, 7pm: Pamela Z (voice/electronics) and Lauren Hayes (electronics)

Tues Nov 19th, 7pm: Madeleine Mitchell (violin) and Ian Pace (piano), featuring music by Berio, Cerha, Schoenberg, Janacek, Ravel

Thurs Jan 30th, 5.30pm: Bernhard Lang guest lecture

Tues Feb 18th, 5pm: Richard Barrett pre-concert talk

Tues Feb 18th, 7pm: Richard Craig (flute) and Lore Lixenberg (voice), featuring world premieres by Richard Barrett, John Croft, Kristian Ireland, plus music by Brian Ferneyhough

Tues Mar 25th, 7pm: Stephane Ginsburgh (piano), featuring music by Guy Barash, Jean-Luc Fafchamps, Stefan Prins, Sabrina Schroeder, Newton Armstrong

Tues Apr 8th, 7pm: James Saunders feature concert presented by Plus-Minus Ensemble

And yes, that's right!

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 October 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://i.imgur.com/x9De6hn.jpg

Nilmar Jr (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 7 November 2013 13:03 (ten years ago) link

Been listening a lot to Faure's songs lately. I've been into his piano and chamber music for a while, but have been falling in love with the songs over the past few weeks, thanks to the four-disc complete recording by Elly Ameling and Gerard Souzay. I feel like Faure has always gotten short shrift, partly because he didn't write a lot of long-form works, and only a few orchestral pieces (mostly short ones), but also partly because of his weird, opaque melodic language. Especially his mid and late-period pieces have these long, evolving unpredictable melodies that modulate constantly but always have their own internal logic. Apparently the word among pianists is this quality makes his music second only to Bach's in its difficulty to memorize.
Anyway, his best songs totally transcend this quality, particularly as sung by Ameling, who has a really warm, unaffected voice. Souzay is a little spottier, apparently this album was recorded toward the end of his career. Check out the song below, or if you're on Spotify the whole set is there, including Le Secret, my favorite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ4Z2sBeWeQ

Ari (whenuweremine), Monday, 18 November 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link

Heard a selection of Gesualdo's late madrigals yesterday - live, for the first time (though I have been listening I the William Christie and Alan Curtis recordings for years). All from book vi.

Hearing the voices intersect in the air, as it were, was pretty spectacular.

Call the Cops, Monday, 18 November 2013 08:03 (ten years ago) link

Saw this played live a couple of years ago, now on CD:

http://conviviumrecords.co.uk/c/releases/james-erber-the-traces-cycle-matteo-cesari-flutepiccolo/

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 November 2013 12:56 (ten years ago) link

The complete History of Photography is being played next year:

http://ianpace.com/?event=history-of-photography-in-sound-complete

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 12:49 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

nx wk: http://cafeoto.co.uk/john-tilbury-plays-samuel-beckett-dave-smith.shtm

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Looks like quite a lot of the Harmonia Mundi catalogue has been added to Spotify US sometime in the past couple weeks. There are still a few albums with 10-minute-plus tracks missing, but many more have their long tracks included. Been on a Schubert kick lately, so spent the evening listening to the Arcanto Quartet version of the String Quintet and the Mark Padmore/Paul Lewis Winterreise. Both beautiful, and beautifully recorded. Any recs from the recently added?

Ari (whenuweremine), Monday, 6 January 2014 05:18 (ten years ago) link

Loving Koroliov's The Art of the Fugue at the minute.

Call the Cops, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link

The Art of Fugue (or The Art of the Fugue, original German: Die Kunst der Fuge), BWV 1080

Call the Cops, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 17:03 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjrR9hPM6OE

^ weird meditation on death and nothingness that the recent bbc elgar documentary introduced me to

eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:07 (ten years ago) link

What is that? ... Nothing.
A wild thing hurt in the night,
And it cries
In its dread,
Till it lies
Dead at the foot of the tree;
All that can be is said.
What is it? ... Nothing.

eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:09 (ten years ago) link

that is excellent

did elgar write anything else in that vein

Thanks in anticipation of your opinions (nakhchivan), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link


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