A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

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at least they weren't trying to sell us abstinence like the malevolent mumford banjo mafia

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:23 (four years ago) Permalink

• I have the best memory of a buddy finally going insane at two in the morning during a poker game when "Take It Easy" comes on and he can't stop laughing over "running down the road, tryin' to loosen my load."

• Rich Hall has this chapter in his Vanishing America about going to Winslow, Ariz., and waiting for a girl in a flatbed Ford to slow down and take a look at him. He gets a ride with her and asks about Jackson Browne. "Kinda quiet," she says and he replies, yeah, that's what he's heard too.

• I'm sure I'll get into it later, but background vocals on Eagles songs scare the shit out of me.

pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:29 (four years ago) Permalink

Ok, I think I'm gonna lose my shit about "loosen my load" now.

how's life, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:31 (four years ago) Permalink

everything about the arrangement is so uptight, SOMETHING'S gotta get loosened amirite

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:33 (four years ago) Permalink

I imagine a constipated Yosemite Sam running through Roadrunner territory.

pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:36 (four years ago) Permalink

Mumford does not take it easy, which sort of makes them worse. The Eagles were hilariously smug and arrogant making lite music. Mumford delivers its music with that annoying faux gravitas, as if it was Important. I'm sure the Eagles though they were Important, too, but only after enough people told them they were, and that probably only came after they were hugely successful and everyone around them was too afraid to say otherwise. "Wow, guys, 'Hotel California' really is like holding up a mirror to America. Like you said, it's about the American dream, but also the American nightmare!"

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:36 (four years ago) Permalink

Song does nothing for me, and never did. Really, the Doobies' "Listen To The Music" is my own personal substitute for "Take It Easy" (not only banjo, it's got steel drums too!) for that 1972 west coast highway-driving feel.

The phrase "There's a girl, my lord, in a flatbed Ford" does sing nice.

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:55 (four years ago) Permalink

I won't participate unless Ned does.

I am avoiding this shit like the plague. Aside from this post, obv.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:56 (four years ago) Permalink

All right, everyone. Ned's in.

pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Being from California, these are the songs of your people, correct?

pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Only Eagle actually from California was Timothy Schmit.

how's life, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:09 (four years ago) Permalink

Listen, this isn't the place to start on any of your anti-immigrant rhetoric.

pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:11 (four years ago) Permalink

Being from California, these are the songs of your people, correct?

I take great umbrage at this suggestion, good sir

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:16 (four years ago) Permalink

Sorry to get all Soft Rock Civil Defense Corps on you.

how's life, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:17 (four years ago) Permalink

All native Californians are from Iowa iirc

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:25 (four years ago) Permalink

"Listen To The Music" is my own personal substitute for "Take It Easy"

i love "listen to the music" to death. its an amazing song when all is sad and done. and the production is arguably just as tightassed as eagles but somehow it opens up into a field of infinite possibilities by the time you get to the psych break where the lazy flowing river does something to the castles in the sky.

scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:28 (four years ago) Permalink

lighten up while you still can

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:30 (four years ago) Permalink

apparently frey came up with the flatbed ford line.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/2179/3261/5446630016_large.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:34 (four years ago) Permalink

oh fuck, where is my statues thread.

http://maxmccoy.com/blog/uploaded_images/IMG_0174-769036.jpg

pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:37 (four years ago) Permalink

Take It Easy is unfuckwithable; tight structure, sweet harmonising, singalong up to your eyeballs. Was this their first song? What pros.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:38 (four years ago) Permalink

lol @ the reflection

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:39 (four years ago) Permalink

take it easy is ok

but it is sort of impressive, as far as "first song on first album totally defining the aesthetic of the band"

right up there with "black sabbath"/black sabbath/black sabbath

usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:41 (four years ago) Permalink

I feel like the first two missing panels of this cartoon involved Mr. Magoo somehow.

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9619/hs56.jpg

pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:42 (four years ago) Permalink

What's going on in those upstairs windows?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:44 (four years ago) Permalink

Well, when two trompe l'oeil figures love each other very much . . .

Domo Arigato, Demi Lovato (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:48 (four years ago) Permalink

"it's a girl my lord, in a flatbed Ford, slowin' down to take a look at me" is the only contribution Frey made to the song. Save for that one line, the song is written by Jackson Browne whose own version of the song I prefer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMA3lIeqV8M

Lee626, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 18:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Of course Frey would write the line that makes him look like Paul Newman.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 18:52 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm curious about the exact nature of the relationships with those seven women, particularly the one who says she's a friend. Why is that was enough distinction to call her out specifically? Did most of the women he knew not want to be mistaken for being friends with him?

Lee626, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:13 (four years ago) Permalink

those ringing opening electric guitar chords that open the song -- and, I guess, their career -- make it sound like something epic is about to happen. but it turns out the laid-back acoustic strum underneath them is what you were supposed to have been listening to.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:15 (four years ago) Permalink

The Eagles - and especially "Take It Easy" and "Hotel California" - have been so ubiquitous for so long that I'm wondering where and when most of us actually formulated any kind of a critical stance on the group. I was born in late 1982 and they were always kinda just there; I imagine the experience would be much the same for anyone born in America after 1970 or so. IME it's harder to be objective about music you grew up with. So if you hate the Eagles, did you hate "Take It Easy" when you were 5? Or did you grow to hate them later on? I think I always liked that song because it was big and clean and catchy and had good harmonies. I could say much the same for their other hits. By the time I got old enough to think about the smug misogyny of the lyrics and the greedy picks behind them, the Eagles were too much a part of my aural landscape to hate. And even so, I never once felt compelled to buy an album. The radio was enough.

For a contrast, I hated James Taylor for as long as I can remember. I think I could sense the waves of smarm and unctuousness dripping from his voice when I was in grade school.

One interesting thing about "Take It Easy" is that it never even made the top 10 of the charts - it only reached #12. Yet over time it's probably gotten more radio play than 95% of all the #1 hits in history - including a couple of the group's own chart toppers. It's so immaculately produced and finely-crafted - slicker and fuller than probably anything else of its era - that it's always an up, and I never change the station when it's on, yet it's also bland and shallow enough that I never seek it out otherwise. That kind of sums up their appeal and their shortcomings - easy to like, hard to really care about.

thewufs, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:15 (four years ago) Permalink

"picks" = "pricks"

thewufs, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:16 (four years ago) Permalink

I thought the implication was that the singer is being friendzoned by that one.

Ismael OTM and I don't really back down from my earlier comment about how this song illuminates much of what came later in lighter modern rock and new country.

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EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:18 (four years ago) Permalink

I thought it meant he wasn't interested in sleeping with that particular one of the seven.
The Eagles have always been there. I don't have a critical stance on them beyond always hating them.

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:24 (four years ago) Permalink

Opening chimey guitar chords remind me that Rickenbacker made a Glenn Frey signature model, because his tone and approach were obviously so unique and distinctive that they could only be replicated by ugh ugh ugh seriously fuck Glenn Frey:
http://www.rickenbacker.com/news_item.asp?news_id=34&news=old

Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:27 (four years ago) Permalink

To clarify - I didn't hate their music (which is generally light and innocuous) so much as them personally. They have always seemed like a bunch of entitled jerks.

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:29 (four years ago) Permalink

I think Eagles hate has to be learned. It's part of that adolescent thing where you decide that some things are too pretty, too perfect, too good, that you'd rather listen to something that sounds fucked-up and noisy/distorted because it's more real, man. Also that if your mom likes it, it's to be shoved away with all your strength. My mom liked the Eagles a lot, I think. But somehow I never learned to hate them.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:30 (four years ago) Permalink

I thought the implication was that the singer is being friendzoned by that one.

I always heard this as meaning that they were whilom lovers but they weren't ever going to be much else.

Fais ce que voudra, occiderai de même (Michael White), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:32 (four years ago) Permalink

I thought it meant he wasn't interested in sleeping with that particular one of the seven.

But SHE'S the one who says she's a friend of his! Plus, it's totally funnier my way.

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EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:33 (four years ago) Permalink

Like, he sets you up with the "seven women on [his] mind" thing but they're all either pissed off at him or blowing him off.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:34 (four years ago) Permalink

Well, or they want something serious.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:34 (four years ago) Permalink

my parents were not Eagles fans, I don't remember hearing them at all as a kid really. at some point in high school/college there were conversations about what "Hotel California" *really* was about (see also Don McLean's "American Pie", Zep's "Stairway to Heaven" etc) and def by the time I was in college I was aware of the ubiquity of their Greatest Hits but by then there was really nothing in their music to appeal to me. and over time as I've learned more about them and listened to my wife's copies of their albums they just get under my skin.

Disco Strangler cracks me up tho. one of the times where they get close to so-bad-its-good camp. everything about that song is wrong.

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:35 (four years ago) Permalink

I always think of the Eagles as the kind of music that you are forced to listen to while driving through some infernally hot and dusty place and that your mother made the error of loving after having loved all that cool shit in the 60's. I can't really hate them 'cause they're so easy to ignore but God have mercy on your soul if you're at a summer bbq and someone puts them on.

Fais ce que voudra, occiderai de même (Michael White), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:35 (four years ago) Permalink

Growing up, all I saw of the Eagles was constant radio airplay, endless stream of solo records, bazillion dollar tours, and they never seemed very down to earth/human at all. My parents didn't like them either. I was also really righteous about my dislike of money grubbing rich people.

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:38 (four years ago) Permalink

Since there seemed to be a sexual past between him and the own me/stone me women but not the "friend of mine," my barely-formed guess has always been that they were drug buddies. "We're not balling or anything, I'm just along because he/she knows where to score."

cops on horse (WilliamC), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:40 (four years ago) Permalink

One interesting thing about "Take It Easy" is that it never even made the top 10 of the charts - it only reached #12

"Listen To The Music" was #11. In your FACE, Browne!

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:43 (four years ago) Permalink

I think Eagles hate has to be learned. It's part of that adolescent thing where you decide that some things are too pretty, too perfect, too good, that you'd rather listen to something that sounds fucked-up and noisy/distorted because it's more real, man. Also that if your mom likes it, it's to be shoved away with all your strength. My mom liked the Eagles a lot, I think. But somehow I never learned to hate them.

― 誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, August 20, 2013 2:30 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha this is almost as much a cliche now as hating the eagles for being too "smooth" or "corporate"

usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:01 (four years ago) Permalink

best pics of the ozark fest. nsfw:

http://masmasmaraksi.blogspot.com/2012/05/ozark-music-festival.html

scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:06 (four years ago) Permalink

and some more:

https://sites.google.com/site/rodsievers/ozarkmusicfestival

scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:10 (four years ago) Permalink

Gotta say, that's a lot more ass than what I was expecting from Sedalia, Mo.

pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:12 (four years ago) Permalink

Grohl got credit on Nevermind. All did.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:52 (four months ago) Permalink

Ah, ok, that makes a little more sense.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 June 2017 03:02 (four months ago) Permalink

XP That's some serious $$$ there then. As for the Foos, they're one of those bands like the Red Hot Chilli Peppers whom one probably don't think about much, but are still consistently big on the remaining rock radio outlets, their albums do well out of the gate, and they have an audience big enough to still support headlining large arena/shed tours.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 June 2017 03:10 (four months ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/6eByG2q.jpg

Are we all just pretending that No. 9 isn't there or what?

http://i.imgur.com/yqH0Vo8.jpg

pplains, Friday, 2 June 2017 03:42 (four months ago) Permalink

The last sentence here is what might make this list so questionable: The figures contained in this list were acquired from all publicly available information including salaries, real estate holdings, divorces, record sales, royalties and endorsements. The final net worths come from a formula that takes out taxes, manager's fees, agents' fees, and lifestyle.

tbh the first sentence makes it questionable too. the only reliable public record in that entire sentence is record sales. and even if you could somehow get the rest of the info, how anyone could translate royalty figures, endorsements, etc., over the years into a believable estimate of someone's net worth at any given point of time is beyond me. at best, they're guessing.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 2 June 2017 07:00 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://www.houstonpress.com/music/long-after-the-eagles-don-felder-is-still-soaring-9581454

Mainly of interest for:

When Glenn Frey died rather unexpectedly in January 2016, relations had not changed. But it still came as a shock to Felder, who found out about it after landing at LAX airport when his then-girlfriend’s phone started “blowing up.”

Felder had come back from Mexico, where he had been playing with Billy Gibbons, Dave Grohl and Sammy Hagar at a club. When his girlfriend leaned over and said “Glenn’s dead,” the guitarist thought she meant Glen Campbell, who Felder knew and has been suffering from Alzheimer’s for some time.

When he told her that wasn’t a surprise, she informed him, “No, Glenn Frey.” And even then, Felder says he thought it was an Internet hoax until it started appearing all over the news, though it was still a shock.

and the photos, wherein somehow Felder has turned into Joe Bonnamassa's Dad

https://images1.houstonpress.com/imager/u/blog/9581461/hou_mus_donfeldermain.jpg

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 July 2017 19:24 (three months ago) Permalink

I almost forgot, but when I went to see Tom Petty last month, Joe Walsh opened for him. At one point in his set, he said, "This one is for my brother and bandmate, Glenn Frey." He then proceeded to play "Take It To The Limit," which is almost inextricably associated with Randy Meisner. It was either a heartfelt tribute, epic trollery, or some combination.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Friday, 7 July 2017 19:36 (three months ago) Permalink

That's like the one non-Joe Walsh song that Joe Walsh would probably sing pretty good on. (until the high parts.)

pplains, Friday, 7 July 2017 20:08 (three months ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/QDGT5I5.jpg

Don't where else to work this in, but every day I walk past this plaque and every day, I sing "Spent the last year, Count Pulaski Way..."

pplains, Friday, 7 July 2017 20:10 (three months ago) Permalink

what did Don 'n' Glenn think of Tom Petty?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:29 (three months ago) Permalink

xxp Joe's got a four-person backing vocal section so the pressure is off to hit anything out of his range.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:50 (three months ago) Permalink

xp glenn probably thought petty was an asshole since felder gave the young petty gtr lessons

or at night (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:50 (three months ago) Permalink

DON: Some years after we all had made our ways to California, Tom Petty and his great band the Heartbreakers followed the trail, setting up shop in the mid-70s with a number of lighthearted Rock'n'Roll records that were fine companions to our own, less serious work. Later on, Mike Campbell and drummer Stan Lynch would be some of my best collaborators as I stepped out of the shadow of the Eagles and started making my own hit records.

GLENN: We never let Tom forget that while he had the the song, we had the PHDs in "Making it last all night" with "American Girl"s!

DON: Well, yeah.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:22 (three months ago) Permalink

Joe's got a four-person backing vocal section so the pressure is off to hit anything out of his range.

― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.),

Randy Meisner had a Glenn Frey asshole section waiting, so the pressure was on him to avoid being hit by Frey.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:24 (three months ago) Permalink

still lol at the thought of Henley grabbing Stan Lynch's legal pad and correcting his grammar and punctuation

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:25 (three months ago) Permalink

when i was a younger fact checking cuz, i spent some time on the phone with henley going over a transcript of a q&a that a reporter at my site did with him. henley had demanded to see the transcript because he was appalled that we had sent a woman in her early 20s to interview henley the great and powerful. first he sent me a copy-edited version of the transcript, with his own proofreading marks on them. not even remotely surprisingly, dude knows his proofreading symbols. then he got on the phone with me to argue hyphens, dashes and semicolons before something else ticked him off and he hung up on me. top-five highlight of my fact checking life.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 7 July 2017 21:56 (three months ago) Permalink

Did he know punctuation?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 22:17 (three months ago) Permalink

all i remember is he was extremely confident in his suggestions and was not particularly interested in anything i had to say besides yes, ok and sure. also, he cared more about the punctuation than i did.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 7 July 2017 22:37 (three months ago) Permalink

Well: yeah

or at night (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 July 2017 23:09 (three months ago) Permalink

one of the joys of learning about henley is the continual, neverending confirmation that he is the dickwagon I assumed he was when I knew zero about him

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 July 2017 23:37 (three months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

In the Wild: "Victim of Love."

Victim of the Eagles.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 October 2017 18:00 (one week ago) Permalink

If you listen closely you can hear Felder sobbing quietly

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 October 2017 18:03 (one week ago) Permalink

I saw at WalMart recently that they've quietly reissued the two vinyl-era hits comps in a box for $12.

Also: Vince Gill is apparently an Eagle now.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:08 (one week ago) Permalink

what!?

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, two CDs in a box.

But seriously, apparently that summer show w/Gill & Frey's son went well enough that they plan to continue touring with them in the lineup.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:54 (one week ago) Permalink

don: think of it as the old guild system, where i am the master and you are the apprentice.

Reminds me of what I posted last year"

Also I picked up Felder's hefty Between Heaven and Hell in the library, and read the whole thing that afternoon, which never happens. Gist: his father comes off as a self-made, self-righteous, self-torturing workaholic and skinflint, and Don follows suit during his Eagles years, with infinitely more bucks and perks than blue collar Dad ever had, of course. Furthermore, Dr. Phil, he somewhat recreates his own defiant-dependent teen relationship with Dad, now played by Henley and Frey.
Also:
When he finally gets his ass fired, after having papers served in the studio, he actually calls back, all crying---"Try to seek some higher ground in this, Fingers," Frey counsels, and the ex-Mrs. Felder fervently seconds. So he does, by writing this agony-and-juicy-tidbits saga. He's always been go-to for tha latter apparently; has everybody in the firm calling up to ask him what "the Gods" are up to now, incl. the Gods themselves, D & G, checking on each other, and maybe themselves. D. circulates a memo on making sure the toliet paper rolls *toward* the shittee, so reacharound nec. One of the lighter moments.

dow, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:13 (one week ago) Permalink

And he casually mentions in that one of his guitar students back in Florida was "Tommy" Petty.

dow, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:18 (one week ago) Permalink

^^Who later had a band with Bernie Leadon's brother.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:40 (one week ago) Permalink


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