A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

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as with most Jackson Browne covers this sucks some balls compared to the original. yes that includes you Nico, fuck you.

also Kortchmar is misquoting there, obviously.

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 14:05 (four years ago) Permalink

There are definitely better Eagles songs. This is pretty wimpy stuff.

Pretty cool to see them on the California Jam stage in that clip from the very camera that Ritchie Blackmore would destroy only a few hours later.

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 15:04 (four years ago) Permalink

it should be noted that this is a standard country and bluegrass song to cover. thousands of country and bluegrass performers have covered this song over the years.

scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 15:12 (four years ago) Permalink

On A Dark Desert Highway: A Vocal Bluegrass Tribute to the Eagles offers heartfelt versions of the band’s greatest songs with soaring harmonies and delightful pickin’ on the banjo, mandolin, dobro and guitar. You won’t believe how beautiful these songs sound in the hands (and throats) of some of the best Bluegrass musicians in the business. If the Eagles had settled in W. Virginia instead of California, this is how their music would have sounded!

http://www.cmhrecords.com/web/images/products/8917_lrg.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 15:17 (four years ago) Permalink

do you think that jackson browne oould live off of "take it easy" royalties? not that he has to. but if he had to. i'm going to say yes.

i have a friend whose father wrote a famous song - in the 40's! - and i was kinda impressed by how much money it made the family in a year. not enough to live on, but not nothing either. its a very famous song.

scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 15:23 (four years ago) Permalink

"loosen my load" is such a gross-sounding phrase

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Oh man, I never even thought of the sexual connotation there before.

cops on horse (WilliamC), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:07 (four years ago) Permalink

the only thing i have to say in favor of the eagles is that at least they were kinda pleasantly sleazy

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:10 (four years ago) Permalink

just a ragtag band of misfits...

scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:15 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah everything about this song is gross, which is compounded by its expert execution. no doubt dudes could harmonize, but not well enough to make me overlook the material or sentiments expressed.... I can think of other harmony or country acts whose singing is so beautiful and intense that it creates a compelling contrast with otherwise bothersome lyrical content, this tension becomes part of the appeal. But the Eagles are not the Louvin Brothers or the Beach Boys. They aren't weird or damaged or desperate enough, nor are they beatific or angelic enough, they're just gross.

xp

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:19 (four years ago) Permalink

at least they weren't trying to sell us abstinence like the malevolent mumford banjo mafia

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:23 (four years ago) Permalink

• I have the best memory of a buddy finally going insane at two in the morning during a poker game when "Take It Easy" comes on and he can't stop laughing over "running down the road, tryin' to loosen my load."

• Rich Hall has this chapter in his Vanishing America about going to Winslow, Ariz., and waiting for a girl in a flatbed Ford to slow down and take a look at him. He gets a ride with her and asks about Jackson Browne. "Kinda quiet," she says and he replies, yeah, that's what he's heard too.

• I'm sure I'll get into it later, but background vocals on Eagles songs scare the shit out of me.

pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:29 (four years ago) Permalink

Ok, I think I'm gonna lose my shit about "loosen my load" now.

how's life, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:31 (four years ago) Permalink

everything about the arrangement is so uptight, SOMETHING'S gotta get loosened amirite

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:33 (four years ago) Permalink

I imagine a constipated Yosemite Sam running through Roadrunner territory.

pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:36 (four years ago) Permalink

Mumford does not take it easy, which sort of makes them worse. The Eagles were hilariously smug and arrogant making lite music. Mumford delivers its music with that annoying faux gravitas, as if it was Important. I'm sure the Eagles though they were Important, too, but only after enough people told them they were, and that probably only came after they were hugely successful and everyone around them was too afraid to say otherwise. "Wow, guys, 'Hotel California' really is like holding up a mirror to America. Like you said, it's about the American dream, but also the American nightmare!"

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:36 (four years ago) Permalink

Song does nothing for me, and never did. Really, the Doobies' "Listen To The Music" is my own personal substitute for "Take It Easy" (not only banjo, it's got steel drums too!) for that 1972 west coast highway-driving feel.

The phrase "There's a girl, my lord, in a flatbed Ford" does sing nice.

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:55 (four years ago) Permalink

I won't participate unless Ned does.

I am avoiding this shit like the plague. Aside from this post, obv.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:56 (four years ago) Permalink

All right, everyone. Ned's in.

pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Being from California, these are the songs of your people, correct?

pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Only Eagle actually from California was Timothy Schmit.

how's life, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:09 (four years ago) Permalink

Listen, this isn't the place to start on any of your anti-immigrant rhetoric.

pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:11 (four years ago) Permalink

Being from California, these are the songs of your people, correct?

I take great umbrage at this suggestion, good sir

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:16 (four years ago) Permalink

Sorry to get all Soft Rock Civil Defense Corps on you.

how's life, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:17 (four years ago) Permalink

All native Californians are from Iowa iirc

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:25 (four years ago) Permalink

"Listen To The Music" is my own personal substitute for "Take It Easy"

i love "listen to the music" to death. its an amazing song when all is sad and done. and the production is arguably just as tightassed as eagles but somehow it opens up into a field of infinite possibilities by the time you get to the psych break where the lazy flowing river does something to the castles in the sky.

scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:28 (four years ago) Permalink

lighten up while you still can

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:30 (four years ago) Permalink

apparently frey came up with the flatbed ford line.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/2179/3261/5446630016_large.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:34 (four years ago) Permalink

oh fuck, where is my statues thread.

http://maxmccoy.com/blog/uploaded_images/IMG_0174-769036.jpg

pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:37 (four years ago) Permalink

Take It Easy is unfuckwithable; tight structure, sweet harmonising, singalong up to your eyeballs. Was this their first song? What pros.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:38 (four years ago) Permalink

lol @ the reflection

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:39 (four years ago) Permalink

take it easy is ok

but it is sort of impressive, as far as "first song on first album totally defining the aesthetic of the band"

right up there with "black sabbath"/black sabbath/black sabbath

usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:41 (four years ago) Permalink

I feel like the first two missing panels of this cartoon involved Mr. Magoo somehow.

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9619/hs56.jpg

pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:42 (four years ago) Permalink

What's going on in those upstairs windows?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:44 (four years ago) Permalink

Well, when two trompe l'oeil figures love each other very much . . .

Domo Arigato, Demi Lovato (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:48 (four years ago) Permalink

"it's a girl my lord, in a flatbed Ford, slowin' down to take a look at me" is the only contribution Frey made to the song. Save for that one line, the song is written by Jackson Browne whose own version of the song I prefer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMA3lIeqV8M

Lee626, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 18:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Of course Frey would write the line that makes him look like Paul Newman.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 18:52 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm curious about the exact nature of the relationships with those seven women, particularly the one who says she's a friend. Why is that was enough distinction to call her out specifically? Did most of the women he knew not want to be mistaken for being friends with him?

Lee626, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:13 (four years ago) Permalink

those ringing opening electric guitar chords that open the song -- and, I guess, their career -- make it sound like something epic is about to happen. but it turns out the laid-back acoustic strum underneath them is what you were supposed to have been listening to.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:15 (four years ago) Permalink

The Eagles - and especially "Take It Easy" and "Hotel California" - have been so ubiquitous for so long that I'm wondering where and when most of us actually formulated any kind of a critical stance on the group. I was born in late 1982 and they were always kinda just there; I imagine the experience would be much the same for anyone born in America after 1970 or so. IME it's harder to be objective about music you grew up with. So if you hate the Eagles, did you hate "Take It Easy" when you were 5? Or did you grow to hate them later on? I think I always liked that song because it was big and clean and catchy and had good harmonies. I could say much the same for their other hits. By the time I got old enough to think about the smug misogyny of the lyrics and the greedy picks behind them, the Eagles were too much a part of my aural landscape to hate. And even so, I never once felt compelled to buy an album. The radio was enough.

For a contrast, I hated James Taylor for as long as I can remember. I think I could sense the waves of smarm and unctuousness dripping from his voice when I was in grade school.

One interesting thing about "Take It Easy" is that it never even made the top 10 of the charts - it only reached #12. Yet over time it's probably gotten more radio play than 95% of all the #1 hits in history - including a couple of the group's own chart toppers. It's so immaculately produced and finely-crafted - slicker and fuller than probably anything else of its era - that it's always an up, and I never change the station when it's on, yet it's also bland and shallow enough that I never seek it out otherwise. That kind of sums up their appeal and their shortcomings - easy to like, hard to really care about.

thewufs, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:15 (four years ago) Permalink

"picks" = "pricks"

thewufs, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:16 (four years ago) Permalink

I thought the implication was that the singer is being friendzoned by that one.

Ismael OTM and I don't really back down from my earlier comment about how this song illuminates much of what came later in lighter modern rock and new country.

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EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:18 (four years ago) Permalink

I thought it meant he wasn't interested in sleeping with that particular one of the seven.
The Eagles have always been there. I don't have a critical stance on them beyond always hating them.

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:24 (four years ago) Permalink

Opening chimey guitar chords remind me that Rickenbacker made a Glenn Frey signature model, because his tone and approach were obviously so unique and distinctive that they could only be replicated by ugh ugh ugh seriously fuck Glenn Frey:
http://www.rickenbacker.com/news_item.asp?news_id=34&news=old

Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:27 (four years ago) Permalink

To clarify - I didn't hate their music (which is generally light and innocuous) so much as them personally. They have always seemed like a bunch of entitled jerks.

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:29 (four years ago) Permalink

I think Eagles hate has to be learned. It's part of that adolescent thing where you decide that some things are too pretty, too perfect, too good, that you'd rather listen to something that sounds fucked-up and noisy/distorted because it's more real, man. Also that if your mom likes it, it's to be shoved away with all your strength. My mom liked the Eagles a lot, I think. But somehow I never learned to hate them.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:30 (four years ago) Permalink

I thought the implication was that the singer is being friendzoned by that one.

I always heard this as meaning that they were whilom lovers but they weren't ever going to be much else.

Fais ce que voudra, occiderai de même (Michael White), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:32 (four years ago) Permalink

I thought it meant he wasn't interested in sleeping with that particular one of the seven.

But SHE'S the one who says she's a friend of his! Plus, it's totally funnier my way.

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EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:33 (four years ago) Permalink

Like, he sets you up with the "seven women on [his] mind" thing but they're all either pissed off at him or blowing him off.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:34 (four years ago) Permalink

Well, or they want something serious.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:34 (four years ago) Permalink

http://www.houstonpress.com/music/long-after-the-eagles-don-felder-is-still-soaring-9581454

Mainly of interest for:

When Glenn Frey died rather unexpectedly in January 2016, relations had not changed. But it still came as a shock to Felder, who found out about it after landing at LAX airport when his then-girlfriend’s phone started “blowing up.”

Felder had come back from Mexico, where he had been playing with Billy Gibbons, Dave Grohl and Sammy Hagar at a club. When his girlfriend leaned over and said “Glenn’s dead,” the guitarist thought she meant Glen Campbell, who Felder knew and has been suffering from Alzheimer’s for some time.

When he told her that wasn’t a surprise, she informed him, “No, Glenn Frey.” And even then, Felder says he thought it was an Internet hoax until it started appearing all over the news, though it was still a shock.

and the photos, wherein somehow Felder has turned into Joe Bonnamassa's Dad

https://images1.houstonpress.com/imager/u/blog/9581461/hou_mus_donfeldermain.jpg

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 July 2017 19:24 (four months ago) Permalink

I almost forgot, but when I went to see Tom Petty last month, Joe Walsh opened for him. At one point in his set, he said, "This one is for my brother and bandmate, Glenn Frey." He then proceeded to play "Take It To The Limit," which is almost inextricably associated with Randy Meisner. It was either a heartfelt tribute, epic trollery, or some combination.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Friday, 7 July 2017 19:36 (four months ago) Permalink

That's like the one non-Joe Walsh song that Joe Walsh would probably sing pretty good on. (until the high parts.)

pplains, Friday, 7 July 2017 20:08 (four months ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/QDGT5I5.jpg

Don't where else to work this in, but every day I walk past this plaque and every day, I sing "Spent the last year, Count Pulaski Way..."

pplains, Friday, 7 July 2017 20:10 (four months ago) Permalink

what did Don 'n' Glenn think of Tom Petty?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:29 (four months ago) Permalink

xxp Joe's got a four-person backing vocal section so the pressure is off to hit anything out of his range.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:50 (four months ago) Permalink

xp glenn probably thought petty was an asshole since felder gave the young petty gtr lessons

or at night (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:50 (four months ago) Permalink

DON: Some years after we all had made our ways to California, Tom Petty and his great band the Heartbreakers followed the trail, setting up shop in the mid-70s with a number of lighthearted Rock'n'Roll records that were fine companions to our own, less serious work. Later on, Mike Campbell and drummer Stan Lynch would be some of my best collaborators as I stepped out of the shadow of the Eagles and started making my own hit records.

GLENN: We never let Tom forget that while he had the the song, we had the PHDs in "Making it last all night" with "American Girl"s!

DON: Well, yeah.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:22 (four months ago) Permalink

Joe's got a four-person backing vocal section so the pressure is off to hit anything out of his range.

― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.),

Randy Meisner had a Glenn Frey asshole section waiting, so the pressure was on him to avoid being hit by Frey.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:24 (four months ago) Permalink

still lol at the thought of Henley grabbing Stan Lynch's legal pad and correcting his grammar and punctuation

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:25 (four months ago) Permalink

when i was a younger fact checking cuz, i spent some time on the phone with henley going over a transcript of a q&a that a reporter at my site did with him. henley had demanded to see the transcript because he was appalled that we had sent a woman in her early 20s to interview henley the great and powerful. first he sent me a copy-edited version of the transcript, with his own proofreading marks on them. not even remotely surprisingly, dude knows his proofreading symbols. then he got on the phone with me to argue hyphens, dashes and semicolons before something else ticked him off and he hung up on me. top-five highlight of my fact checking life.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 7 July 2017 21:56 (four months ago) Permalink

Did he know punctuation?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 22:17 (four months ago) Permalink

all i remember is he was extremely confident in his suggestions and was not particularly interested in anything i had to say besides yes, ok and sure. also, he cared more about the punctuation than i did.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 7 July 2017 22:37 (four months ago) Permalink

Well: yeah

or at night (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 July 2017 23:09 (four months ago) Permalink

one of the joys of learning about henley is the continual, neverending confirmation that he is the dickwagon I assumed he was when I knew zero about him

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 July 2017 23:37 (four months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

In the Wild: "Victim of Love."

Victim of the Eagles.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 October 2017 18:00 (one month ago) Permalink

If you listen closely you can hear Felder sobbing quietly

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 October 2017 18:03 (one month ago) Permalink

I saw at WalMart recently that they've quietly reissued the two vinyl-era hits comps in a box for $12.

Also: Vince Gill is apparently an Eagle now.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:08 (one month ago) Permalink

what!?

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:39 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah, two CDs in a box.

But seriously, apparently that summer show w/Gill & Frey's son went well enough that they plan to continue touring with them in the lineup.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:54 (one month ago) Permalink

don: think of it as the old guild system, where i am the master and you are the apprentice.

Reminds me of what I posted last year"

Also I picked up Felder's hefty Between Heaven and Hell in the library, and read the whole thing that afternoon, which never happens. Gist: his father comes off as a self-made, self-righteous, self-torturing workaholic and skinflint, and Don follows suit during his Eagles years, with infinitely more bucks and perks than blue collar Dad ever had, of course. Furthermore, Dr. Phil, he somewhat recreates his own defiant-dependent teen relationship with Dad, now played by Henley and Frey.
Also:
When he finally gets his ass fired, after having papers served in the studio, he actually calls back, all crying---"Try to seek some higher ground in this, Fingers," Frey counsels, and the ex-Mrs. Felder fervently seconds. So he does, by writing this agony-and-juicy-tidbits saga. He's always been go-to for tha latter apparently; has everybody in the firm calling up to ask him what "the Gods" are up to now, incl. the Gods themselves, D & G, checking on each other, and maybe themselves. D. circulates a memo on making sure the toliet paper rolls *toward* the shittee, so reacharound nec. One of the lighter moments.

dow, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:13 (one month ago) Permalink

And he casually mentions in that one of his guitar students back in Florida was "Tommy" Petty.

dow, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:18 (one month ago) Permalink

^^Who later had a band with Bernie Leadon's brother.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:40 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Me and some of the fellas at work takin' it to the limit.

https://i.imgur.com/rrkZJ6C.jpg

pplains, Monday, 23 October 2017 14:15 (four weeks ago) Permalink

i enjoy the melody but the lyrics make me crosseyed with hatred

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 03:15 (four weeks ago) Permalink

fantastic piece.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 08:21 (four weeks ago) Permalink

DON: Well, yeah.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 10:50 (four weeks ago) Permalink

thanks!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 10:50 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I'm happy that we all came out of this thread stronger, bolder and wiser. And we didn't even lose anyone along the way!

pplains, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:13 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Listen, you ever hear me use the pronoun "we", be assured that it'll mean "me and the Eagles".

pplains, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:18 (four weeks ago) Permalink

it'll never mean.

pplains, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:18 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I don't need a Roach Ghost haunting me today, all right?

pplains, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:18 (four weeks ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Love the responses from angry Eagles fans - and Alfred's retorts - in the blog post linked above.

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Thursday, 9 November 2017 00:59 (one week ago) Permalink

I wondered why my stats were exploding two weeks ago: an Eagles fan site had linked to it.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 November 2017 01:03 (one week ago) Permalink

First, you call yourself an author, yet you spelled ‘great with “grate” Are you making a cheese topped dish?

O Lord, I think Henley found your blog.

pplains, Thursday, 9 November 2017 01:19 (one week ago) Permalink

sick burn

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 November 2017 03:40 (one week ago) Permalink


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