defend the indefensible: glenn fucking greenwald

Speaking by phone from the couple's home in the Tijuca forest, Miranda said it felt "awesome" to be back. "It's really good to be here. I felt the weight lift off my shoulders as soon I got back. Brazil feels very secure, very safe,"

this is trolling at its most rarified level

drinking a caipirinha on the porch in his flip-flops, with his dog.

swimming with piranhas in cargo shorts, in a crime ridden favela *"knowledge" of brazil exhausted*

guardian editor alan rusbridger has now written his own article about this, and is responding to comments under the article:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/19/david-miranda-schedule7-danger-reporters

A little over two months ago I was contacted by a very senior government official claiming to represent the views of the prime minister. There followed two meetings in which he demanded the return or destruction of all the material we were working on. The tone was steely, if cordial, but there was an implicit threat that others within government and Whitehall favoured a far more draconian approach.

The mood toughened just over a month ago, when I received a phone call from the centre of government telling me: "You've had your fun. Now we want the stuff back." There followed further meetings with shadowy Whitehall figures. The demand was the same: hand the Snowden material back or destroy it. I explained that we could not research and report on this subject if we complied with this request. The man from Whitehall looked mystified. "You've had your debate. There's no need to write any more."

And so one of the more bizarre moments in the Guardian's long history occurred – with two GCHQ security experts overseeing the destruction of hard drives in the Guardian's basement just to make sure there was nothing in the mangled bits of metal which could possibly be of any interest to passing Chinese agents. "We can call off the black helicopters," joked one as we swept up the remains of a MacBook Pro.

In a private viewing cinema in Soho last week I caught myself letting fly with a four-letter expletive at Bill Keller, the former executive editor of the New York Times. It was a confusing moment. The man who was pretending to be me – thanking Keller for "not giving a shit" – used to be Malcolm Tucker, a foul-mouthed Scottish spin doctor who will soon be a 1,000-year-old time lord. And Keller will correct me, but I don't remember ever swearing at him. I do remember saying something to the effect of "we have the thumb drive, you have the first amendment".

The fictional moment occurs at the beginning of the DreamWorks film about WikiLeaks, The Fifth Estate, due for release next month. Peter Capaldi is, I can report, a very plausible Guardian editor.

Speaking by phone from the couple's home in the Tijuca forest, Miranda said it felt "awesome" to be back. "It's really good to be here. I felt the weight lift off my shoulders as soon I got back. Brazil feels very secure, very safe,"

this is trolling at its most rarified level

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, August 19, 2013 7:14 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

damn that sounds like a cool ass place to live http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tijuca_Forest

i had this weird long daydream the other day about what it would be like to live in a rainforest.

alfred hey, the man knows his way around an seo-heavy lead graf, whatcha gon do

can we just say what this really is, which is now that ostensibly democratic governments are targeting and detaining white dudes for talking shit about them, it's finally unacceptable?

― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Monday, 19 August 2013 19:53 (Yesterday)

the reason i gave this short shrift is because you are describing miranda as white

and yeah miranda being described as 'white' was not implausible having scanned through maybe one photo of him, the uk is not the same as america or brazil, there's no equivalent category to 'latino' or 'pardo' so a lot of south americans are just sort of seen as 'white - other'

to the actual argument occluded by this, that miranda is a minority person whose victimization is not credited, or only credited by proxy because they have husband....sure, and yes it's unfortunate that greenwald's monomania only furthers this

/have a white husband/

slob imo:

Greenwald lives and works in a house surrounded by tropical foliage in a remote area of Rio de Janeiro. He shares the home with his Brazilian partner and their 10 dogs and one cat, and the place has the feel of a low-key fraternity that has been dropped down in the jungle. The kitchen clock is off by hours, but no one notices; dishes tend to pile up in the sink; the living room contains a table and a couch and a large TV, an Xbox console and a box of poker chips and not much else. The refrigerator is not always filled with fresh vegetables. A family of monkeys occasionally raids the banana trees in the backyard and engages in shrieking battles with the dogs.

Greenwald does most of his work on a shaded porch, usually dressed in a T-shirt, surfer shorts and flip-flops. Over the four days I spent there, he was in perpetual motion, speaking on the phone in Portuguese and English, rushing out the door to be interviewed in the city below, answering calls and e-mails from people seeking information about Snowden, tweeting to his 225,000 followers (and conducting intense arguments with a number of them), then sitting down to write more N.S.A. articles for The Guardian, all while pleading with his dogs to stay quiet. During one especially fever-pitched moment, he hollered, “Shut up, everyone,” but they didn’t seem to care

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/laura-poitras-snowden.html?hpw

glenn is an unusual cat

imagining him drinking and playing heads up poker v his husband after a long day of blogging

in the jungle

the reason i gave this short shrift is because you are describing miranda as white

This was a mistake in wording on my part. What I was trying to get across as that Miranda's entire experience has been cooped and transferred to Greenwald in the conversation about this incident but I let my desire to be pithy get in the way.

Grr co-opted

Stupid spell check

(And yes, it was also tied to the context of white dudes who were a-okay with brown people getting hassled in airports suddenly finding TSA intrusions beyond the pale when they were the ones getting frisked.)

lets bear in mind that among such dudes was not greenwald. i don't know about miranda's experience getting transferred to greenwald but it is important to recognize that it sort of indisputably happened because of his links to greenwald, which is not to say that race couldn't also play a role or etc.

(And yes, it was also tied to the context of white dudes who were a-okay with brown people getting hassled in airports suddenly finding TSA intrusions beyond the pale when they were the ones getting frisked.)

― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Monday, August 19, 2013 9:39 PM (1 hour ago)

i'd actually imagine that the vast majority of the people who are upset over this incident are also the people who oppose a lot of what the TSA does and the racial profiling that is a part of that

now that i've seen photos of his dude, glenn is punching way out of his class. good for him.

living in a brazilian jungle with hot boyfriend sounds like an ideal life aside from the whole "multiple governments trying to systematically tear your life apart" thing

i need a vacation from my vacation!!!

who's cooler: greenwald or kim dot com

defend the indefensible: fucking glenn greenwald

can't

"You've had your debate. There's no need to write any more."

debate been had son

I dunno if I can fuck a dude with monkeys crawling over me and Laura Poitras in the next room, worrying about my dumping info in my boyfriend's butt.

that is way too many dogs

sad this thread stopped tbh

Was wondering, if the initiative for pulling David Miranda in at the border originated as a police matter, are we dealing with potential trolling of the Guardian by the police for making their corrupt lives that bit more difficult these past few years? I mean, they can't pull in Nick Davies so...

having re-read the NYTimes Mag article on poitras and greenwald, it really is hard to believe that she and greenwald were this naive. it's REALLY hard. they took endless precautions. so i kinda suspect when the NSA finally cracks the USB sticks it's gonna be rickroll.jpg?

having now read this article I have to agree. Poitras had been stopped in airports over 40 times and had electronics confiscated to the point that she had stopped traveling with computers when possible. although it did say that she would give her computer to a traveling companion to carry through airport security on the theory that they wouldn't be detained and questioned, so maybe they thought Miranda wasn't himself on a watch list. I doubt it though.

i kinda suspect when the NSA finally cracks the USB sticks it's gonna be rickroll.jpg?

a 172 hour HD video of greenwald's cats

with "Yakety Sax" as the soundtrack.

he has dogs god have we learned nothing

sry

i have no eye for pets

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/1003353_10152133848209112_690021497_n.jpg

great to be doge

Gleen

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/exclusive-glenn-greenwald-will-leave-guardian-to-create-new?s=mobile

http://ggsidedocs.blogspot.com.br/2013/10/my-statement-and-guardians.html?m=1

'The venture ... will be “a general media outlet and news site — it’s going to have sports and entertainment and features. I’m working on the whole thing'

the fuck?

so like, dave zirin, tennis ... profit!

dude is gonna get paid, good for him

but general interest seems like a not that great idea, better to go deeper in his niche imho

it’s going to have sports and entertainment and features.

Glennland

outrageland

lol yrs was better

YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT THE NSA DID IN ONE RESTON BATHROOM

This might be the most important 6,000 words you ever read

Washington Post has an article on it, as well: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/10/15/glenn-greenwald-bolts-the-guardian-for-some-fabulous-media-organization/

Maybe he can hire some IL Xor users.