Dinosaur Jr.: Brilliant or crap?

It's really wrong to aim this stuff at Dinosaur Jr., but that insufferable punk and classic rock fan "authenticity"/"this is REAL music" attitude was also present in 90s indie, and I was happy to realize that it apparently doesn't hold sway anymore.

oh shit i somehow just realized I'm talking about rockism haha

There is a massive part of Arcade Fire/Sigur Ros/Radiohead fandom that is all about the ''authenticity/this is REAL music'' attitude.

It's probably just easier to dismiss today.

it seems i have finally discovered the vortex of RONG

it is this thread revive

Hand It Over is so great.

a million times, yes. messy, heartbroken, dark and dippy in places, but so great.

not enough sixties in the music for my taste.

the sixties were a decade of shocking diversity and great giant leaps and accelerated evolution in a myriad of musical forms. i guess what you're saying is dinosaur don't adequately echo miles davis' shift from acoustic to electric music, right?

That guy out of The National has a beard

lets face it he means beatles pop

xp

"You got your incense and peppermints in my cinnamon girl!"
"You got your cinnamon girl in my strawberry alarm clock!"

Today's musicians really don't saying about food very much, do they?

I mean, even Dinosaur He. Was singing about raisans and turnips. Whats anybody bringing to the table nowadays?

it's been forever since i heard a good milkshake song

Bug contains so many great jams, love the record.

Maybe it's my age but I genuinely feel that they never surpassed 'You're living All Over Me" and believe me, I have purchased much DiJr since - Sebadoh, solo stuff etc.

The context of those guitar solos were truly new to my ears back then. Now they're like, "Here we go again, squall...squiggle, squeak ...." And Mascis' voice was better then? Oh and the tunes. Lyrics, i'm not too fussed.

Perhaps I should try again?

Is the remastered version of YLAOM any good?

It was definitely fresher back then in all those categories. Though I still enjoy the recent stuff too! Some really amazing songs on the first comeback album notably.

I love pretty much all their albums, but YLAOM is by a huge degree their best

For me Bug is pretty close, too.

Uh, at the risk of ruining the lovefest for their 80s stuff, I enjoy their reunion records more.

I'll get even weirder and say that I think his most recent solo album on Sub Pop ("Tied to a Star") is one of my favorite things he's done!

Soft spot for Where You Been, just because of the timing of its release.

I love both of the solo records.

YLAOM is definitely the best, bug is a close second. i can't really listen to the solo mascis "dinosaur jr" stuff anymore even though i dig recent solo mascis. the reunion stuff is perennially on my list of stuff to listen to but i never get around to it

as far as the sebadoh stuff goes i think the freed weed is all i need. winners & losers is also pretty good. whenever i think of the type of dope barlow smoked nonstop during the freed weed i imagine it is the driest brownest seeds & stems schwag ever, right? there ain't no fuckin way barlow as smoking anything kind.

Tied To A Star is excellent!

I interviewed J when the first three LPs got reissued, and he said, re: Bug: “I interviewed Ozzy Osbourne once, and he said he hated Sabotage, that it just reminded him of Sabbath recording with lawyers sat in the studio. I guess I feel the same way about Bug.” I love Post and Freak Scene, obvs, but its the lesser album of that early trilogy to me.

Stevie, do you know if Mascis is touring w/ a band here in January? Must admit, not so much into J as acoustic minstrel

Press release doesn't state clearly, though I must say I've seen J play solo before, and it was pretty remarkable.

Thanks, couldn't see any info on his website either - but you're selling me on it now (he's playing a nice venue in Glasgow)

I saw him play the Underworld circa the Fog album, on his lonesome, and he wasn't really all that unplugged - strums acoustic while singing, but then cranks a pedal and fires up for the solos. That might not be your cup of tea, but it certainly was mine!

no, heavy on the solos = exactly what i want out of a j mascis gig

http://i.imgur.com/oj24H0F.jpg

dude better have a valid handicap parking permit, is all I'm saying

jay

question for people who know: are the other reunion albums anywhere near as good as Farm, or should I be checking out stuff from their original run instead? (I got the Ear-Bleeding Country comp when it came out years ago, so I've heard and enjoyed 'the hits' at least; I'm more curious about consistency/listenability of entire albums)

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bernard: You're Living All Over Me is a psychedelic masterpiece, their best perhaps. Where You Been probs the best of their Warners output, and very strong.

i wish he had bought a vw rabbit instead so i could make a little fury things joke

xp yeah I like Where You Been, that's the one other album I have... but there's no excuse for my not having sought out YLAOM before now. I guess I know what I'll be getting into this summer!

xp Golf and Rabbit are the same thing.

question for people who know: are the other reunion albums anywhere near as good as Farm, or should I be checking out stuff from their original run instead? (I got the Ear-Bleeding Country comp when it came out years ago, so I've heard and enjoyed 'the hits' at least; I'm more curious about consistency/listenability of entire albums)

― bernard snowy, Friday, May 6, 2016 6:51 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

About the reunion albums: If you like Farm, I Believe In Sky is more in the same vein. The hard songs are a bit harder, but the songwriting is there.

Beyond is a good deal fuzzier, probably not as good as Farm, but some amazing tracks--"We're Not Alone," "Almost Ready," "This Is All I Came to Do," "It's Me"

They're not as strange or brilliant as Bug or You're Livin' All Over Me, but they're great straightforward rock albums and worth checking out

I like Beyond a lot. stevie's picks for 80s and 90s are OTM. tbh I like all their albums to some degree. The 2 after Where You Been are probably my least favourite overall but they don't suck.

they're working on a new album.

bug bug bug bug bug bug

shoulda boughta bug

I genuinely like all their albums and think they all have good songs and interesting moments. Green Mind has been kind of written out of the band's history, but it's got incredible songs and it's really fun and varied.

Without A Sound is the one I'd avoid; weakest material (ironically on the album with their biggest hit). Beyond is in hindsight a little weak, too, but I like I Bet On Sky as much as Farm.

Even the Whatever's Cool With Me EP is pretty sensational

xp Golf and Rabbit are the same thing.

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, May 6, 2016 2:31 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha what? that's dumb. now i have to think of a joke

The Wagen

i really don't love bug. freak scene is great. post is great. the rest i could live without.

saw them a few times when it came out and 'yeah we know' was always a huge high point of their set for me

my pal bob fay got together with lou recently and went over old unreleased deluxx folk implosion stuff. they want to put it out. for people who are into that sort of thing...(i know some people who like that stuff the most, actually.)

Green Mind has been kind of written out of the band's history, but it's got incredible songs and it's really fun and varied.

Even the Whatever's Cool With Me EP is pretty sensational

― Evan R, Friday, May 6, 2016 7:10 AM (1 hour ago)

green mind and the 8-song version of whatever's cool are my favorite dinos besides you're livin all over me and bug bug bug bug bug. and "just like heaven".

i still love the debut tbh