At the 2005 World Social Forum in Brazil, activists from Chiapas reported that this movement began to realize that one cannot combat militarism with more militarism because the state always has more guns. However, if movements began to build their own autonomous zones and proliferated them until they reached a mass scale, eventually there would be nothing the state’s military could do. If mass-based peoples’ movements begin to live life using alternative governance structures and stop relying on the state, then what can the state do? Of course, during the process, there may be skirmishes with the state, but conflict is not the primary work of these movements. And as we see these movements literally take over entire countries in Latin America, it is clear that it is possible to do revolutionary work on a mass-scale in a manner based on radical participatory rather than representational democracy or through a revolutionary vanguard model.
didn't sarkozy fuck up a bunch of autonomists in france tho?
― flopson, Thursday, 15 August 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link
yes. i think there's a lot we can learn from chiapas, and that one of the lessons is that "you will get fucked up by people that have more explosions than you do"
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 15 August 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/08/entrepreneurship-the-ultimate-white-privilege/278727/
― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Friday, 16 August 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link
http://aseasonedplateofmurder.tumblr.com/post/37223757218/privilege-hierarchy
― max, Monday, 19 August 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
lol
― k3vin k., Monday, 19 August 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
I will be a junior in college in the fall.
Women are always less privileged than men REGARDLESS of race. So that means when a man rapes a woman that it is always rape.
oh so THAT'S what that means
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Monday, 19 August 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
also my post here was couple of years too early: ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Monday, 19 August 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
so these tumblrs are actually real, huh
― Spectrum, Monday, 19 August 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u93L8r19il4
― 乒乓, Monday, 19 August 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
Won't someone think of the "pans/demi" mens? By which I mean, they do not appear on the list. Which is a real omission because I might be basing some important life decisions on this list.
― the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 19 August 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
pans/demi men are up at the top obv
― I tweeted too much and I am in jail. (crüt), Monday, 19 August 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
i found myself silently arguing with some placements on that list before slapping myself in the face.
― ryan, Monday, 19 August 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
would it surprise anyone the person who made this list is in college
― Spectrum, Monday, 19 August 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link
what does "pans/demi" actually mean? because "pansexual" and "demisexual" seem to be completely different concepts that wouldn't really go together
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Monday, 19 August 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
my job just fired someone for being a pans/demi woman, so maybe my eyes just aren't open enough
― Spectrum, Monday, 19 August 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
unless that's a typo and she meant "pants/demi", aka women who wear capris
pretty sure I own that White Pans / Demi Female split 7"
― transmisogyny express (DJ Mencap), Monday, 19 August 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
ha maybe being sexually attracted to everything is the same as being sexually attracted to nothing? think about it.
― ryan, Monday, 19 August 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
because "pansexual" and "demisexual" seem to be completely different concepts that wouldn't really go together
they are both outwith our normal privileged concepts of sexuality and thus together at the bottom of the oppression pyramid.
― click here to start exploding (ledge), Monday, 19 August 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
what a wonderful tumblr
― sleepingbag, Monday, 19 August 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
it's quite the rollercoaster ride isn't it
― transmisogyny express (DJ Mencap), Monday, 19 August 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
sums it up nicely:
http://aseasonedplateofmurder.tumblr.com/post/57486143961/people-are-so-threatened-by-my-views-and
― Moodles, Monday, 19 August 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
this has to be a troll tumblr. if not then this woman needs help
― Spectrum, Monday, 19 August 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link
Kinda doing intersectionality wrong
― i too went to college (silby), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
aw come on, she's a sophomore in college. xp
― I tweeted too much and I am in jail. (crüt), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
weren't we all doing intersectional feminism wrong in college
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
It's more of a cross-product here.
― i too went to college (silby), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link
I wasn't aware of "intersectional feminism" as a term when I was in college so I was almost assuredly doing it wrong
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link
nationalsocialistpartyusa reblogged this from truecatholic
― R'LIAH (goole), Monday, 19 August 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link
Have Morals, Bomb a CAFO, Commit to the Revolution.
― Kissin' Cloacas (Viceroy), Monday, 19 August 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
I like how she's all "have morals, go socialist" in her header but capes up for democrats whenever anyone criticizes them from the left.
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
btw DL (if you're still reading) there's a term for what you were doing itt
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
tbrr the notion of tone policing sort of makes me mad
like i recognize and honor the validity of all kinds of emotional responses to heavy information, but when telling someone 'rage is not the best educator of your allies' becomes a category of oppressive behavior i have an impulse to throw up my hands
obviously the only people with an obligation to educate are those who know and can reach the people in need of learning, and when it comes to dumb white people saying dumb white people things, sometimes white people who've learned about why its dumb are the right people to do the teaching, and to expect other people to do that teaching through or with their other justified emotions is a problem
but like damn sections of the internet are on the mad setting permanently, even friends of mine
i dunno
― there are more than 3.5 HOOS per steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link
you're almost there
― Mordy , Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
yeah i feel you, there is a lot to be said for finding your center and learning to react in a healthy way, i'm not great at this but i recognize i can get better at it
― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
that said, i think 'tone policing' is useful to describe how assertiveness and advocacy are interpreted by privilege as belligerence and anger
― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
tone policing is the worst, it always seems like a tactic to divert focus away from the actual argument, as if a point made rudely is automatically invalid. and often the people being rude have good reason to be angry!
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link
not that i'm totally familiar with the phenomenon but it seems like a symptom of so much of this discourse being people reading and writing on the internet.
― R'LIAH (goole), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
where 'tone' is as much a matter of reader inference as writer intent
― R'LIAH (goole), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
one day in the future we will all communicate via videoconferencing
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
there's always a point in any internet debate or fight where you just want to put all the participants into a room irl (either because it'll help them sort it out without getting internet-angry or because they'll be out of my sight)
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link
Uzjfkshe I just wrote a long post on my phone and zing ate it
― there are more than 3.5 HOOS per steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link
For me it breaks down two ways:
1) That kind of tone policing ONLY is ever used against people in non-privileged groups when it wouldn't be used against a person of the privileged group.
2) Who the fuck are you as a white person or straight person (or man, able person, etc.) to tell me as a black person or queer person (or woman, disabled person, etc.) that I can't be angry or sad about the things I or other people in those groups experience?
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link
b-but I'm demisexual
― Coming Out Of Elton John's Mouth (crüt), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link
every time I read that word, I think http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/stylewatch/gallery/red_lips/demi_moore.jpg
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
oh man, that tumblr
― mh, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
^ review of her work on striptease?
― dmacation problem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link
http://aseasonedplateofmurder.tumblr.com/post/57764676625/idk-how-frank-is-supposed-to-help-me-pay-rent-if
― mh, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link
I have to step away from that tumblr
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link