http://andrea366.wordpress.com/2013/08/14/the-problem-with-privilege-by-andrea-smith/
― flopson, Thursday, 15 August 2013 00:37 (ten years ago) link
Political projects of transformation necessarily involve a fundamental reconstitution of ourselves as well. However, for this process to work, individual transformation must occur concurrently with social and political transformation. That is, the undoing of privilege occurs not by individuals confessing their privileges or trying to think themselves into a new subject position, but through the creation of collective structures that dismantle the systems that enable these privileges. The activist genealogies that produced this response to racism and settler colonialism were not initially focused on racism as a problem of individual prejudice. Rather, the purpose was for individuals to recognize how they were shaped by structural forms of oppression. However, the response to structural racism became an individual one – individual confession at the expense of collective action.
― flopson, Thursday, 15 August 2013 00:39 (ten years ago) link
damn
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 15 August 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link
i get kind of lost once shit get deep but the thesis is on point imo
― flopson, Thursday, 15 August 2013 00:41 (ten years ago) link
a friend of mine who's been loudly skeptical of white privilege before posted this with endorsement so i had been not looking forward to reading it, but this looks great so far
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 15 August 2013 00:43 (ten years ago) link
Native peoples are not positioned as those who can engage in self-reflection; they can only judge the worth of the confession. Consequently, the presenters of these narratives often present very nervously. Did they speak to all their privileges? Did they properly confess? Or will someone in the audience notice a mistake and question whether they have in fact become a fully-developed anti-racist subject? In that case, the subject would have to then engage in further acts of self-reflection that require new confessions in the future.
― flopson, Thursday, 15 August 2013 00:46 (ten years ago) link
To quote one of my activist mentors, Judy Vaughn, “You don’t think your way into a different way of acting; you act your way into a different way of thinking.” Essentially, the current social structure conditions us to exercise what privileges we may have. If we want to undermine those privileges, we must change the structures within which we live so that we become different peoples in the process.
this really rings true for me, the projects i try to spend time on are big on "building anti-oppressive culture" and this clicks with that
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 15 August 2013 00:46 (ten years ago) link
Hiram Perez similarly analyzes how the white subject positions itself intellectually as a cosmopolitan subject capable of abstract theorizing through the use of the “raw material” provided by fixed, brown bodies. The white subject is capable of being “anti-“ or “post-identity,” but understands their post-identity only in relationship to brown subjects which are hopelessly fixed within identity. Brown peoples provide the “raw material” that enables the intellectual production of the white subject.
― flopson, Thursday, 15 August 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link
this is the good kind of skepticism imo
― flopson, Thursday, 15 August 2013 00:49 (ten years ago) link
your friend prob didn't read it
― flopson, Thursday, 15 August 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link
kind of a bummer conclusion tho
Based on this analysis then, our project becomes less of one based on self-improvement or even collective self-improvement, and more about the creation of new worlds and futurities for which we currently have no language.
oh great sign me up i guess...
― flopson, Thursday, 15 August 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link
hah. well.
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 15 August 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link
the point she actually goes on to make is cool tho
― flopson, Thursday, 15 August 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link
At the 2005 World Social Forum in Brazil, activists from Chiapas reported that this movement began to realize that one cannot combat militarism with more militarism because the state always has more guns. However, if movements began to build their own autonomous zones and proliferated them until they reached a mass scale, eventually there would be nothing the state’s military could do. If mass-based peoples’ movements begin to live life using alternative governance structures and stop relying on the state, then what can the state do? Of course, during the process, there may be skirmishes with the state, but conflict is not the primary work of these movements. And as we see these movements literally take over entire countries in Latin America, it is clear that it is possible to do revolutionary work on a mass-scale in a manner based on radical participatory rather than representational democracy or through a revolutionary vanguard model.
didn't sarkozy fuck up a bunch of autonomists in france tho?
― flopson, Thursday, 15 August 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link
yes. i think there's a lot we can learn from chiapas, and that one of the lessons is that "you will get fucked up by people that have more explosions than you do"
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 15 August 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/08/entrepreneurship-the-ultimate-white-privilege/278727/
― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Friday, 16 August 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link
http://aseasonedplateofmurder.tumblr.com/post/37223757218/privilege-hierarchy
― max, Monday, 19 August 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
lol
― k3vin k., Monday, 19 August 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
I will be a junior in college in the fall.
Women are always less privileged than men REGARDLESS of race. So that means when a man rapes a woman that it is always rape.
oh so THAT'S what that means
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Monday, 19 August 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
also my post here was couple of years too early: ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Monday, 19 August 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
so these tumblrs are actually real, huh
― Spectrum, Monday, 19 August 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u93L8r19il4
― 乒乓, Monday, 19 August 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
Won't someone think of the "pans/demi" mens? By which I mean, they do not appear on the list. Which is a real omission because I might be basing some important life decisions on this list.
― the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 19 August 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
pans/demi men are up at the top obv
― I tweeted too much and I am in jail. (crüt), Monday, 19 August 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
i found myself silently arguing with some placements on that list before slapping myself in the face.
― ryan, Monday, 19 August 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
would it surprise anyone the person who made this list is in college
― Spectrum, Monday, 19 August 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link
what does "pans/demi" actually mean? because "pansexual" and "demisexual" seem to be completely different concepts that wouldn't really go together
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Monday, 19 August 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
my job just fired someone for being a pans/demi woman, so maybe my eyes just aren't open enough
― Spectrum, Monday, 19 August 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
unless that's a typo and she meant "pants/demi", aka women who wear capris
pretty sure I own that White Pans / Demi Female split 7"
― transmisogyny express (DJ Mencap), Monday, 19 August 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
ha maybe being sexually attracted to everything is the same as being sexually attracted to nothing? think about it.
― ryan, Monday, 19 August 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
because "pansexual" and "demisexual" seem to be completely different concepts that wouldn't really go together
they are both outwith our normal privileged concepts of sexuality and thus together at the bottom of the oppression pyramid.
― click here to start exploding (ledge), Monday, 19 August 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
what a wonderful tumblr
― sleepingbag, Monday, 19 August 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
it's quite the rollercoaster ride isn't it
― transmisogyny express (DJ Mencap), Monday, 19 August 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
sums it up nicely:
http://aseasonedplateofmurder.tumblr.com/post/57486143961/people-are-so-threatened-by-my-views-and
― Moodles, Monday, 19 August 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
this has to be a troll tumblr. if not then this woman needs help
― Spectrum, Monday, 19 August 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link
Kinda doing intersectionality wrong
― i too went to college (silby), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
aw come on, she's a sophomore in college. xp
― I tweeted too much and I am in jail. (crüt), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
weren't we all doing intersectional feminism wrong in college
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
It's more of a cross-product here.
― i too went to college (silby), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link
I wasn't aware of "intersectional feminism" as a term when I was in college so I was almost assuredly doing it wrong
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link
nationalsocialistpartyusa reblogged this from truecatholic
― R'LIAH (goole), Monday, 19 August 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link
Have Morals, Bomb a CAFO, Commit to the Revolution.
― Kissin' Cloacas (Viceroy), Monday, 19 August 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
I like how she's all "have morals, go socialist" in her header but capes up for democrats whenever anyone criticizes them from the left.
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
btw DL (if you're still reading) there's a term for what you were doing itt
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
tbrr the notion of tone policing sort of makes me mad
like i recognize and honor the validity of all kinds of emotional responses to heavy information, but when telling someone 'rage is not the best educator of your allies' becomes a category of oppressive behavior i have an impulse to throw up my hands
obviously the only people with an obligation to educate are those who know and can reach the people in need of learning, and when it comes to dumb white people saying dumb white people things, sometimes white people who've learned about why its dumb are the right people to do the teaching, and to expect other people to do that teaching through or with their other justified emotions is a problem
but like damn sections of the internet are on the mad setting permanently, even friends of mine
i dunno
― there are more than 3.5 HOOS per steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link
you're almost there
― Mordy , Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
yeah i feel you, there is a lot to be said for finding your center and learning to react in a healthy way, i'm not great at this but i recognize i can get better at it
― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
that said, i think 'tone policing' is useful to describe how assertiveness and advocacy are interpreted by privilege as belligerence and anger
― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link