New York City is for sellouts

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Home Depot is great! It totally beats the pants off of Wal-Mart or ANY of the other megalomart chainstores.

bad jode (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 06:30 (twenty years ago) link

exactly! Which is why this smarmy Manhattanite can go fuck his/herself.

hstencil, Wednesday, 17 December 2003 06:31 (twenty years ago) link

also, when you can't afford to own where you live, of course you have no need for home improvement!

hstencil, Wednesday, 17 December 2003 06:32 (twenty years ago) link

but home depot sells storage for the manhattan apartment you have no room to fit anything in!

bad jode (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 06:33 (twenty years ago) link

but you have to go to *ugh* Brooklyn or Queens to use it!

hstencil, Wednesday, 17 December 2003 06:34 (twenty years ago) link

Can I just say that if I still lived in Queens I'd be for secession? Honestly, that borough gets such a bum rap but it's the largest, has great food, cheap rent, etc., etc.

hstencil, Wednesday, 17 December 2003 06:35 (twenty years ago) link

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/pg2/2002/0123/photo/a_tyson_i.jpg

Mr. Tyson takes umbrage with your statement

ModJ (ModJ), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 06:36 (twenty years ago) link

home depot is pretty fucking radical as far as big-box chains go. for one thing, it's a store which will sell you the raw materials to make cool shit rather than just sell you stuff so you can have stuff.

their plants selection is pretty awesome as well (though i bought a venus flytrap there once for like $3 and it was the saddest venus flytrap ever, i had to force-feed it bugs)

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 06:37 (twenty years ago) link

My point wasn't to rag on Home Depot, but rather to point out that you can get the same stuff you get from Home Depot without going to an orange-wrapped chain store. You could just go to a mom & pop hardware store here, and you wouldn't have to suffer warehouse ceilings and, well, warehouse unfriendliness.

Anil, Monday, 29 December 2003 18:17 (twenty years ago) link

I think some of us were just pointing out the piece was being a bit intentionaly blind to some of the chains (and problems) that do mark Manhattan. If big corporation = inherently evil, then NYC should be handing out pitchforks.

bnw (bnw), Monday, 29 December 2003 18:31 (twenty years ago) link

i got out. NJ rulz. muthafucka new yawkas and yer stupid taxes and shit!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 29 December 2003 18:39 (twenty years ago) link

I can't wait to get the fuck out of this godforesaken hellhole.

Allyzay, Monday, 29 December 2003 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
So the story behind that big giant image posted by:

"Ally (mlescau...), August 7th, 2003"

Apparently Ally can't read. I clearly state on my site (ON THE FRONT PAGE EVEN!!):

"One final detail. I work hard to put these images online for everyone to enjoy. Please respect my rights. Any photo contained in this website is (registered) copyright 1997/1998/1999/2000/2001/2002/2003 (and beyond!) Mr Steve, aka Stevem. You are welcome to view them here or save them for your own personal, non-commercial use. Feel free to refer your friends to the site if you'd like, but please *DO NOT* distribute, publish, transmit, retransmit, link to, or in any way duplicate these photos. "

I pay money every month to keep my colocated website up. I work hard taking the photos, editing them and putting them online. It's a time consuming process, but a passion of mine. When you make a direct link to one of my images, in direct violation of my stated restrictions, you are STEALING from me! You are using my bandwidth to serve your purposes and not paying me for it. Not only that, but you are depriving me of the credit I deserve for capturing the image in the first place. One of the things that make it worthwhile for me to put my efforts into my web site is the feedback that I get from visitors. Not much chance of feedback when I'm not getting a photo credit, now is there? I'm sure that many of the photographers whose work is being STOLEN on this site would share my feelings of being ticked off about this.

So whenever someone is stealing my images and at the same time stealing my bandwidth, I happily send them out a gigantic image, which deprives them of what they are trying to steal, as well as making sure their page downloads very slowwwwwww.


Mr Steve, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 03:46 (twenty years ago) link

Well then.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 03:51 (twenty years ago) link

So whenever someone is stealing my images and at the same time stealing my bandwidth, I happily send them out a gigantic image, which deprives them of what they are trying to steal, as well as making sure their page downloads very slowwwwwww.

...which, uh, robs you of even more bandwidth.

You sure told her off. Uh-huh.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 03:57 (twenty years ago) link

He's a passionate man, Mike.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 04:00 (twenty years ago) link

Mr Steve, aka Stevem

aka chook fucker

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 04:03 (twenty years ago) link

I didn't say that I can't afford the bandwidth, or that my pipe isn't big enough to handle the puny load imposed by your message board...

It's the principle of the matter. I clearly say I don't want to serve my images for other web sites or users. Ally has created a post that is attempting to steal from me.... I know you clever people on this thread are capable of wrapping your well developed minds around the concept of theft -- especially since so much of it is going on around here...

If someone removes the illegal and unauthorized link to my site, I'll happily go away. if the next time I happen to browse my web logs I see evidence of continued theft, I'll throw together a little perl script to collect a bunch of image tags from your various message threads and send email to the owners of those domains to be sure they are aware of the theft of bandwidth and possible copyright violations. The fact that many copyrighted images, including mine, have embedded comments indicating a copyright should make it easy to find some stolen images on your site...

I don't have a legal team, and I'm sure folks reading this don't have a legal team. I know Disney has a legal team. Have you ever seen how rabid Disney is about protecting their copyrights and trademarks? Got any pictures of Mickey Mouse around here? I'm sure you friendly message board types don't have assets worth going after, but what about those companies that make *this* message board possible?

Of course I would send a copy of any evidence of illegal activity on this board to the folks at keypoint (http://www.keypoint.com.au/) who so kindly provide your little message board a home. And let's not forget those nice people at Labyrinth Connections that host your DNS. They should be made aware of any potential legal liabilities arising from their apparent charitable hosting of this site. I'd somehow feel guilty if I didn't also look into who the upstream providers are for your netblock...

Yes, I'm a prick. Yes, I'm pissed off. and YES, what you guys are doing is WRONG. Make all the jokes you want, but remove the link to shooter.net

I don't have any illusions about how effective my actions may be, but I know that I wouldn't want some prick pointing out to everyone and anyone (especially those people nice enough to host my site) how I was breaking the law... I'd just take the fucking link down and be done with the matter...

Cheers,

Stevem

Mr Steve, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:00 (twenty years ago) link

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/pg2/2002/0123/photo/a_tyson_i.jpg

ModJ (ModJ), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:08 (twenty years ago) link

did you ever stop to think you stole stevem's name, fucktard??! I'm calling the FCC.

Allyzay, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:14 (twenty years ago) link

Ha ha ha ha, what a ponce!

Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:16 (twenty years ago) link

NYC?

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:20 (twenty years ago) link

Ally sold us all out.

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:23 (twenty years ago) link

He's going to get GWB to invade Australia to remove those links!

Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:24 (twenty years ago) link

It was always my plan to destroy ILX. THRU MASSIVE BANDWIDTH DESTRUCTION.

Allyzay, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:27 (twenty years ago) link

Take off every zig!

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:30 (twenty years ago) link

zig-ah-zig-ah

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:31 (twenty years ago) link

I guess you guys aren't as smart as I thought....

Funny that I mentioned Disney. A simple glance at the image tags on this page reveals:

a_tyson_i.jpg

it's from: http://espn-i.starwave.com

espn is a Disney company....

I'd suggest that you read:

http://disney.go.com/corporate/legal/terms.html

If you are smart, you'll simply shut up and remove the offending link from your site. You guys are in the wrong. Period.

Disney hasn't bothered with you because you haven't hit their radar. Yet. Your providers haven't been bothered by your rampant casual THEIVERY because it hasn't appeared on their radar. Yet. While you may or may not get shot down, I can make sure you show up on several radar screens like a freaking 747...

Mr Steve, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:34 (twenty years ago) link

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/pg2/2002/0123/photo/a_tyson_i.jpg

ModJ (ModJ), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:35 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.ryman-novel.com/car1/dumb-bell.gif

Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:38 (twenty years ago) link

It's like my logic professor got really bored and decided to come on ILX or something.

Allyzay, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:44 (twenty years ago) link

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/newquestions.php?board=55

Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:47 (twenty years ago) link

WTF picture is he even on about? Just delete the damn thread, all it is is Nick hating on Yancey anyway.

Allyzay, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:49 (twenty years ago) link

This is a first for me.

Jon Williams totally OTFM.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:57 (twenty years ago) link

And here I thought it was N.W.A. reviving this thread talking about how much Ice Cube is a New York sellout.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:57 (twenty years ago) link

Mr. Steve, in the amount of time it took to post here a couple times, you could have easily edited your .htaccess file

Details here: http://www.simplebits.com/archives/2004/02/04/common_sense_and_image_lifting.html

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 07:00 (twenty years ago) link

their plants selection is pretty awesome as well (though i bought a venus flytrap there once for like $3 and it was the saddest venus flytrap ever, i had to force-feed it bugs)

omg geeta, thats so cute.

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 07:03 (twenty years ago) link

I know about .htaccess files.

Instead of flipping me shit, one of the knowledgeable users of this board could have indicated how I could request a moderator to remove the offending link. Somone could have said, "Oh, we're doing something illegal that pisses you off? I'm sorry, we'll stop." I know, that's asking entirely too much... But come on guys, there is so much petty thievery going on around here that it seems like this site must be run by the government... If someone complains the smart thing to do is point them to a moderator, or even better, make a request for moderation of the offending link, apologize politely and be done with it.

But since you guys have chosen to not do the "smart thing", you've *really* pissed me off, and I will be satisfied with nothing less than removal of the offending material.

Hopefully someone will have the good sense to rectify this situation. Trust me, it'll be a lot more difficult to deal with the fallout from a few well placed emails from a pissed off prick than it would to do the "right thing".

Cheers,

Stevem


Mr Steve, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 07:21 (twenty years ago) link

there's a Moderation Request link near the bottom of the page

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 07:22 (twenty years ago) link

every fifth post on this board today has read like a marissa marchant monologue.

jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 07:31 (twenty years ago) link

steve, linking to images on remote servers is one of the ways that the web "works." it's built into the spec. it's NOT illegal and it's NOT "thievery," no matter how much you would like it to be. if you tell us who the photographer is we'll credit him or her, but if you want the image gone from this thread, please just edit your .htaccess file! damn!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 13:35 (twenty years ago) link

I've edited Ally's post so that it doesn't directly link to Mr Steve's site. Hopefully he will now shut up and go away.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 13:36 (twenty years ago) link

You'd think, but I have this hunch.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 13:41 (twenty years ago) link

Steve, while I realise that bandwidth and fair-use issues are important to you, that politeness thing works both ways in that a simple, polite request to a moderator to remove your link would have been preferable to flaming like a BK Broiler. You may be right, but that doesn't excuse any rudeness. I also like the bit where you tell us to read your page carefully - although if your pic came from Google images, that might not have happened because of how it works - and then cannot be bothered to scroll down far enough to see a moderation request link when you pay us a visit.

Also, if there is any whiff of abuse or slander on the part of someone puroprting to be considering legal action, it doesn't look very good for the complainant. It could, in fact, be seen as extortion based on certain precedents.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago) link

WTF picture is he even on about? Just delete the damn thread, all it is is Nick hating on Yancey anyway.

-- Allyzay (notthatyanceydoesntdeservei...), February 18th, 2004 1:49 AM. (later)

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY IT NEEDS TO STAY UP!

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 14:22 (twenty years ago) link


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