ehh i think worst case scenario for KP with such a clearly-not-rocking-the-boat project is that she'll have "only" 2 or 3 chart-toppers off this project instead of 5 or 6.― some dude, mardi 13 août 2013 22:26 (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― some dude, mardi 13 août 2013 22:26 (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Might be wishful thinking, but radio can turn on you pretty quickly. Look at what happened to Ke$ha this year. And like someone mentioned upthread, Cyndi Lauper, Debbie Gibson, and Paula Abdul. They had a big hit with their comeback single and maybe a second one, but the rest was pretty much ignored and they faded away.
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link
hoping this turns out Perry's New Jersey.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
ha i'll admit i was thinking this would definitely make a good first single for one
― da croupier, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link
ok lulz at this ytube comment on brave
MsKatiekittykat 2 hours agoThey have a similar drumbeat, a similar melody line, and that's it. The chord progression is similar but not the same and just because it has an uplifting tone does not mean that one stole it from the other. Katy could've heard Sara's awesome song and been inspired by it, prompting roar, or both artists could've written it a long time ago and they just happened to sound similar. JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY.
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link
they have the same beat and the same melody guys but that's it
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 02:01 (ten years ago) link
oh and the same message, but that's really it
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 02:02 (ten years ago) link
prompting roar
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 02:03 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s0hEi8zhmg
― the tune was space, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link
Katy could've heard Sara's awesome song
https://twitter.com/katyperry/status/334851857967104001
― dyl, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 03:31 (ten years ago) link
i dunno about this bareilles thing. are they really that similar? i guess both have the peppy piano riff but then again so does lily allen's "fuck you" and grizzly bear's "two weeks"
chord progressions are vaguely similar but perry's song is so much louder and huge-r
― monotony, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link
i hear a lot more "girl on fire" tbh. that, and "fun." and the quavering backdrop synth in the verses + cinematic string flourishes scan kinda LDR.
― monotony, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 13:24 (ten years ago) link
i'm a card-carrying kp hater but idk i'm kinda riding with surm on this. it gets something right that all the loathsome things it's quite rightly compared to don't
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:46 (Yesterday) Permalink
glad to hear it. i dunno i mean when that chorus kicks in i get a rush. also i don't hear the Lumineers thing, and i'm a card carrying Lumineers something
― surm, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/katy-perrys-roar-expected-to-out-sell-lady-gagas-applause-20130815
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
neat. i read recently that katy has opened about having OCD. she was also in Vogue recently and i liked her pictures and quotes. she doesn't seem like a bad person.
― surm, Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
katy's coming off 8 straight songs that never peaked lower than #3, only two songs off gaga's last album got that high. not surprising katy's got more enthusiasm out of the gate
― da croupier, Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
also universal-to-banal empowerment number vs shrill meta electro
― da croupier, Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
i got some inside bits about Gaga bc she is working with one of my friend's art studios for the album art. she sounds kind of like a dummy
― surm, Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
gaga's projected numbers are surprisingly low
― dyl, Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
xp gaga's last lead single combined universal-to-banal empowerment with shrill meta electro and shifted huge units
― dyl, Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
katy's coming off 8 straight songs
following her two bi ones
― only dogg forgives (Eazy), Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link
I'm curious what her first week album sales will look like coming off the back of 8 (soon to be 9) hit singles. KP is basically where Gaga was going from The Fame Monster into Born This Way in terms of public good will and chart success.
The timetable they're on is interesting though. Perry has no time for a second single in-between now and the album date, so her label must have had a lot of faith in this song doing well. Whereas Gaga has enough time to release another if this one doesn't take before the album's out.
― Greer, Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
i don't think KP has nearly the public goodwill Gaga had at her peak, in terms of non-stans generally agreeing on her talent/importance. Teenage Dream outsold Born This Way, but there's still this big disconnect between how Teenage Dream was kind of had steady but unspectacular sales relative to its Thriller-like singles campaign.
― some dude, Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, but non-stans might still like her songs even if they agree she isn't particularly noteworthy talentwise. But most importantly, after 8 hit songs, radio definitely likes her.
And do you mean in the US, because a quick google search says Born This Way outsold Teenage Dream by a big margin worldwide, which is why I was curious about her album sales this time around. Will Katy be a Rihanna with hit after hit but surprisingly mediocre album sales, or will she be able to convince the public, especially the global public to invest in an album from her now?
― Greer, Thursday, 15 August 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
i might like this one more than any of her other songs, which isn't saying much, but i came around on "teenage dream." and i like this a lot better than the sara bareilles song, definitely, so w/e about that. "brave" doesn't have the swooshy gigantic guitar sound in the chorus, and that's the whole hook of "roar" for me
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Friday, 16 August 2013 03:03 (ten years ago) link
THAT SWOOSH MAKES ME DRUNK
― surm, Friday, 16 August 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
the way she pronounces the word "past" in the first verse irritates me every time, most of all because it should be impossible to pronounce that word weirdly
― some dude, Sunday, 18 August 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
but yeah i meant in the US specifically Teenage Dream outsold Born This Way. Gaga def has more international appeal.
― some dude, Sunday, 18 August 2013 13:49 (ten years ago) link
Good song!
― only dogg forgives (Eazy), Sunday, 18 August 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
roar is a total earworm.
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Sunday, 18 August 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
if you took a songwriting robot and programmed in "girl on fire" "stronger" the recent p!nk catalogue and some shit by the script you'd get this basically, right?
so awesome how katy perry is overcoming the haters, way to go katy *yaaaawn*
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 18 August 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
this will sell a zillion copies but this is strictly mid-range, "wide awake" level katy perry song
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 18 August 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
every time i accidentally hear this song it horrifies me
― lex pretend, Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link
mmm thanks I love the taste of vomit in my mouth
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
seriously though, the lyrics, i'd have loved to be there during the songwriting process: you CANNOT pack this many clichés into a song unless you're being self-aware, but there's nothing in perry's delivery to suggest this
― lex pretend, Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
perry is always self-aware i think, and her delivery always isn't. that's like her thing.
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Sunday, 18 August 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
i feel like it's the opposite; she's always got an audible smirk but every time she's tried to be funny on purpose she's totally blown it
― some dude, Sunday, 18 August 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
yeah i don't think she really pulls off self-awareness or humor that well... rebecca black was so much better at both of those things in the "TGIF" video
"roar" strikes me as the baldest pop grab imaginable, i don't think there's anything ironic about it. straight shamelessness imo.
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 18 August 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
yeah...she's probably been told how inspiring "Firework" was by so many people that she's trying to uplift the human race all over again.
― some dude, Sunday, 18 August 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
yep
but it's working so c'est la vie
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 18 August 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link
i kind of like the shouts on the verses. reminds me of miguel's WHHAP more than the lumineers or whatever.
― some dude, Sunday, 18 August 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
oh come on, pretty sure a chorus beginning with "i'm the eye of the tiger" is a bit more tongue-in-cheek/self-aware than y'all are making it out to be
the whole thing's basically (purposely) a series of arranged motivational poster cliches, just a fun harmless late-summer anthem -- no gravitas detectable imo
― fuck your movie theater yacht (zachlyon), Sunday, 18 August 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
the wide awake chorus is actually really beautiful but the verses are shit
p much the same with Roar
― surm, Sunday, 18 August 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
Katy Perry gives the impression that she believes "I'm the eye of the tiger" is an affirmation like the St. Francis prayer.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 August 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
just a fun harmless late-summer anthem
rock bottom standards
― lex pretend, Sunday, 18 August 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link
what makes something a "late summer" anthem
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 18 August 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
coming out in august?
― 1staethyr, Sunday, 18 August 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link
basically
― fuck your movie theater yacht (zachlyon), Sunday, 18 August 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
― lex pretend, Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:10 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
plus DELICIOUS GUITAR SWOOSHES
― fuck your movie theater yacht (zachlyon), Sunday, 18 August 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
― 1staethyr, Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― fuck your movie theater yacht (zachlyon), Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:18 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark
so that makes "blurred lines" a... spring anthem
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 18 August 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
blurred lines really is so weird, it sounds like it would be in a commercial for kohl's
― surm, Sunday, 18 August 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link