katy perry - prism

as for the lyrics they only really make sense if you see them as a branding extension. like the "tiger" and "lion" stuff exists 95% because Katy Perry calls and markets to her fanbase as "Katycats." (5% is "...it's the thrill of the fight!")

"I'm the queen of the night"

I imagine the video will feature lots of tiger patterns.

Perry can sing as well, she is just cursed with a really ugly voice

she also seems insistent on making songs that highlight the worst features of her voice. Like, the last chorus on this is gonna be torture to witness live.

ehh i think worst case scenario for KP with such a clearly-not-rocking-the-boat project is that she'll have "only" 2 or 3 chart-toppers off this project instead of 5 or 6.

― some dude, mardi 13 août 2013 22:26 (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Might be wishful thinking, but radio can turn on you pretty quickly. Look at what happened to Ke$ha this year. And like someone mentioned upthread, Cyndi Lauper, Debbie Gibson, and Paula Abdul. They had a big hit with their comeback single and maybe a second one, but the rest was pretty much ignored and they faded away.

hoping this turns out Perry's New Jersey.

ha i'll admit i was thinking this would definitely make a good first single for one

ok lulz at this ytube comment on brave

MsKatiekittykat 2 hours ago
They have a similar drumbeat, a similar melody line, and that's it. The chord progression is similar but not the same and just because it has an uplifting tone does not mean that one stole it from the other. Katy could've heard Sara's awesome song and been inspired by it, prompting roar, or both artists could've written it a long time ago and they just happened to sound similar. JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY.

they have the same beat and the same melody guys but that's it

oh and the same message, but that's really it

prompting roar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s0hEi8zhmg

Katy could've heard Sara's awesome song

https://twitter.com/katyperry/status/334851857967104001

i dunno about this bareilles thing. are they really that similar? i guess both have the peppy piano riff but then again so does lily allen's "fuck you" and grizzly bear's "two weeks"

chord progressions are vaguely similar but perry's song is so much louder and huge-r

i hear a lot more "girl on fire" tbh. that, and "fun." and the quavering backdrop synth in the verses + cinematic string flourishes scan kinda LDR.

i'm a card-carrying kp hater but idk i'm kinda riding with surm on this. it gets something right that all the loathsome things it's quite rightly compared to don't

― r|t|c, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:46 (Yesterday) Permalink

glad to hear it. i dunno i mean when that chorus kicks in i get a rush. also i don't hear the Lumineers thing, and i'm a card carrying Lumineers something

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/katy-perrys-roar-expected-to-out-sell-lady-gagas-applause-20130815

neat. i read recently that katy has opened about having OCD. she was also in Vogue recently and i liked her pictures and quotes. she doesn't seem like a bad person.

katy's coming off 8 straight songs that never peaked lower than #3, only two songs off gaga's last album got that high. not surprising katy's got more enthusiasm out of the gate

also universal-to-banal empowerment number vs shrill meta electro

i got some inside bits about Gaga bc she is working with one of my friend's art studios for the album art. she sounds kind of like a dummy

gaga's projected numbers are surprisingly low

xp gaga's last lead single combined universal-to-banal empowerment with shrill meta electro and shifted huge units

katy's coming off 8 straight songs

following her two bi ones

I'm curious what her first week album sales will look like coming off the back of 8 (soon to be 9) hit singles. KP is basically where Gaga was going from The Fame Monster into Born This Way in terms of public good will and chart success.

The timetable they're on is interesting though. Perry has no time for a second single in-between now and the album date, so her label must have had a lot of faith in this song doing well. Whereas Gaga has enough time to release another if this one doesn't take before the album's out.

i don't think KP has nearly the public goodwill Gaga had at her peak, in terms of non-stans generally agreeing on her talent/importance. Teenage Dream outsold Born This Way, but there's still this big disconnect between how Teenage Dream was kind of had steady but unspectacular sales relative to its Thriller-like singles campaign.

Yeah, but non-stans might still like her songs even if they agree she isn't particularly noteworthy talentwise. But most importantly, after 8 hit songs, radio definitely likes her.

And do you mean in the US, because a quick google search says Born This Way outsold Teenage Dream by a big margin worldwide, which is why I was curious about her album sales this time around. Will Katy be a Rihanna with hit after hit but surprisingly mediocre album sales, or will she be able to convince the public, especially the global public to invest in an album from her now?

i might like this one more than any of her other songs, which isn't saying much, but i came around on "teenage dream." and i like this a lot better than the sara bareilles song, definitely, so w/e about that. "brave" doesn't have the swooshy gigantic guitar sound in the chorus, and that's the whole hook of "roar" for me

THAT SWOOSH MAKES ME DRUNK

the way she pronounces the word "past" in the first verse irritates me every time, most of all because it should be impossible to pronounce that word weirdly

but yeah i meant in the US specifically Teenage Dream outsold Born This Way. Gaga def has more international appeal.

Good song!

roar is a total earworm.

if you took a songwriting robot and programmed in "girl on fire" "stronger" the recent p!nk catalogue and some shit by the script you'd get this basically, right?

so awesome how katy perry is overcoming the haters, way to go katy *yaaaawn*

this will sell a zillion copies but this is strictly mid-range, "wide awake" level katy perry song

every time i accidentally hear this song it horrifies me

if you took a songwriting robot and programmed in "girl on fire" "stronger" the recent p!nk catalogue and some shit by the script you'd get this basically, right?

mmm thanks I love the taste of vomit in my mouth

seriously though, the lyrics, i'd have loved to be there during the songwriting process: you CANNOT pack this many clichés into a song unless you're being self-aware, but there's nothing in perry's delivery to suggest this

perry is always self-aware i think, and her delivery always isn't. that's like her thing.

i feel like it's the opposite; she's always got an audible smirk but every time she's tried to be funny on purpose she's totally blown it

yeah i don't think she really pulls off self-awareness or humor that well... rebecca black was so much better at both of those things in the "TGIF" video

"roar" strikes me as the baldest pop grab imaginable, i don't think there's anything ironic about it. straight shamelessness imo.

yeah...she's probably been told how inspiring "Firework" was by so many people that she's trying to uplift the human race all over again.

yep

but it's working so c'est la vie

i kind of like the shouts on the verses. reminds me of miguel's WHHAP more than the lumineers or whatever.

oh come on, pretty sure a chorus beginning with "i'm the eye of the tiger" is a bit more tongue-in-cheek/self-aware than y'all are making it out to be

the whole thing's basically (purposely) a series of arranged motivational poster cliches, just a fun harmless late-summer anthem -- no gravitas detectable imo

the wide awake chorus is actually really beautiful but the verses are shit

p much the same with Roar

Katy Perry gives the impression that she believes "I'm the eye of the tiger" is an affirmation like the St. Francis prayer.

just a fun harmless late-summer anthem

rock bottom standards

what makes something a "late summer" anthem