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Which is how 70% of architecture and urban planning works.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (six years ago) link

sure 70% that sounds totally realistic too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (six years ago) link

I meant 94% sorry.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:12 (six years ago) link

To me, it really sounds like a kickstarter project... but from a billionaire.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:17 (six years ago) link

i mean who knows maybe its revolutionary technology but its so preliminary its p comical to call a press conference abt it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:18 (six years ago) link

maybe this is the best way to convince someone else to give it a shot idk

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:25 (six years ago) link

LOL "elon musk"

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:00 (six years ago) link

This should keep us occupied for a while: http://www.spacex.com/hyperloop

c21m50nh3x460n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:09 (six years ago) link

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

I wasn't scathing about Musk (I am about futurism in general) - if anything, he has a good track record on quixotic tech quests. I hope he's successful with this. I also hope there's a state left that can use it.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:37 (six years ago) link

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

Knowing how CA politics works (and the CA rail projects are amazingly political), how would you expect a non-arrogant to even get traction with this?

I have no doubt that Musk will solve the Hyperloop technical issues. I very much have doubts about him navigating Sacramento.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:40 (six years ago) link

I was describing this to my wife today and kept calling it Supertube.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:14 (six years ago) link

Bad connotations...

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/supertrain-1_7696.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:21 (six years ago) link

lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 06:23 (six years ago) link

Musk says the Hyperloop is best for distances of 900 miles. Beyond 900 miles, he thinks you're better off in a supersonic jet.

Lol

joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:33 (six years ago) link

I never use my supersonic jet anymore as parking is always a total bitch

joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:35 (six years ago) link

I have to say I rather like Elon Musk. He's made a massive pile of money and rather than sitting on it or managing it in mundane ways; he's making risky bets on thinks he's passionate about: Cars, Rockets, vacuum tubes.

Hyperloop seems a bit ridiculous to me, vacuum tube powered trains and trains in evacuated tubes are an old chestnut, almost as old as railways themselves. However, he's built a commercially viable private space programme and a car company* in the last ten years so anything is possible.

*Tesla isn't really a car company it's a power train company and if it is still making cars in 5 years I'll be surprised.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:18 (six years ago) link

ya i'm kinda ll for crackpot genius billionaires actually doing interesting stuff, up until they become str8 up supervillains obv

darraghmac, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (six years ago) link

lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.

― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:23 AM

he might do this

markers, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (six years ago) link

is this dude one of the crazy silicon valley libertarian types or is he just beloved by them?

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:27 (six years ago) link

iirc he has liberal tendencies mixed in w the libertarianism

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:28 (six years ago) link

xp I heard him speak and he seemed not crazy and to have some kind of social or at least environmental conscience, unlike the usual libertarian types, but maybe he's just better at hiding it

(I like him too fwiw and right now he seems one of the most likely "crackpot genius billionaires" to solve some hard problems which are overdue for solving, so I hope he carries on with that. Also hoping that one day I'll get to see/read his computer game that appeared in some 8-bit micro type-in listings mag in the 80s)

he's not as bad as some of the other silicon valley libtards, I'll give him that.

nonetheless, this is a stupid proposal

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:35 (six years ago) link

do tell

curious to read a critique that amounts to more than 'hyperlol'

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:48 (six years ago) link

I think it's dumb that he's throwing around numbers when he doesn't even have a working prototype. It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project. I also think the "open source" thing is pretty silly since it's not like code where an individual can make some kind of improvement and test it out to see if it works. I guess an open source design is an interesting idea after the fact if he actually gets it working and other people want to build his design, but it still seems basically irrelevant.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:15 (six years ago) link

Didn't he make his fortune with Peter thiel?
I don't know if that is "guilt by association" or "looking better by comparison"

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:15 (six years ago) link

It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project

^^^

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:18 (six years ago) link

A key part of his criticism of the other rail plan is that it's "more expensive to operate (if unsubsidized)." I'd like to see some more detailed numbers on that though. Why would we count the cost of unsubsidized rail against air travel which is heavily subsidized? All that really matters is cost to the traveller, and unlike airlines, I'm assuming the high speed rail system is not going to be run as a for-profit business. He also makes no comparison of the environmental costs of air flight vs. the planned high speed rail system.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:26 (six years ago) link

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, August 12, 2013 11:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm generally contemptuous of futurists, primarily because they seem to think energy and climate change problems will just sort themselves out, but a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing. I looked at the first two feeds you suggested and they seemed to just be saying this is just a toy for rich people, which is afaict completely unsupported by his proposal. He's not suggesting a magic carpet for billionaires; it's mass transit that uses solar power. This is a good thing! Maybe it's completely impossible hogwash, but I'd like to see actual engineering criticism of it instead of casual dismissals based on suspicion of ideas from rich people.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:41 (six years ago) link

the main challenges are not engineering-related, their political

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:43 (six years ago) link

anybody who is over the age of 25, has lived in a city for any length of time, and paid a modicum of attention to the world around them knows that these kinds of massive public works projects tend to be underbid by shady contractors and then they go wildly over the original schedule and budget. so the fact that he's coming in saying he can do it so much cheaper with a totally new and untested technology is a huge red flag. to me it immediately suggests that the whole thing is not serious.

if he honestly thinks this is a feasible plan he should raise some funding and build a private line from LA to Vegas.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:54 (six years ago) link

It's transparently unserious in that he doesn't want to do it himself and "regrets even mentioning it"

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:08 (six years ago) link

right, that aspect has been p funny

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:10 (six years ago) link

haha, I missed that part

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:11 (six years ago) link

ya seems like he said something offhandedly then realized abt his celebrity

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:12 (six years ago) link

a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing.

people don't commute the LA to SF corridor though. i have a hard time believing a transit system would fill the role of the 5 freeway. it's mostly trucks anyway.

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:13 (six years ago) link

You know what would do really well in transportation corridors like that? Plain old freight trains.

I swear, the interstate highway system and the fact it's mostly used for semi truck freight is the biggest money hole in our post-WW2 car-dependent wonderland

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:15 (six years ago) link

there already are freight trains

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:16 (six years ago) link

people don't commute the LA to SF corridor though.

?! they most certainly do. there are these things called commuter flights, they are booked solid all the time.

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:17 (six years ago) link

there are a lot more trucks xp

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:17 (six years ago) link

what exactly are you proposing?

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:20 (six years ago) link

a solar powered superhighway paved with bitcoins duh

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:21 (six years ago) link

that we subsidize more public transport of freight in addition to passengers? or at least reallocate money away from interstate highways

idk, iatee and his ideas about gas prices to thread

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:21 (six years ago) link

HOOS otm

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:21 (six years ago) link

ah, ok. I thought maybe there was a problem with CA's existing freight lines. I don't really know anything about them but I do see freight trains going up and down the state all the time.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:24 (six years ago) link

If this thing actually worked the political will would develop pretty quickly. If the Acela line was shipping people 400 miles in 30 minutes every state would want one.

Which is why yeah, he should just fucking build one. I wonder what a good demonstration distance would be.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:30 (six years ago) link

L.A. to S.D.?

cops on horse (WilliamC), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:52 (six years ago) link

what are the possible operating failure modes on one these loops

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:56 (six years ago) link

giant pillow deployment

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:57 (six years ago) link

halp im stuck in a tube inside of a tube

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:58 (six years ago) link

This is a thread about what it’s like to be Elon Musk’s neighbor.

— Rachel Monroe (@rachmonroe) May 21, 2020

Bleeqwot (sic), Friday, 22 May 2020 07:48 (one week ago) link

brutal

lag∞n, Friday, 22 May 2020 13:16 (one week ago) link

these fucking people

So do you want him to personally apologize for being the only person really making strides to make the world a better place? And actually executing ideas? Cool keep up the good work

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Saving hmanity is worth the inconvenience.

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mookieproof, Friday, 22 May 2020 15:06 (one week ago) link

the cartoon in that string ha

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 May 2020 15:16 (one week ago) link

Musk said that he told Behnken and Hurley's kids: "We've done everything we can to make sure your dads come back."

— Miriam Kramer (@mirikramer) May 27, 2020

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 19:08 (three days ago) link

as trump told the widow of a dead special forces soldier, 'he knew what he signed up for'

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 19:22 (three days ago) link

"we'll see what happens"

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 19:33 (three days ago) link

"there's always the AZ-5"

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:20 (three days ago) link

Saved by the weather, lucky bastards

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:21 (three days ago) link

Musk looks like a face transplant recipient. I don't know if it's the Michael Jackson stubble or what.

Sam Weller, Thursday, 28 May 2020 08:22 (two days ago) link

he and zuck def rolled straight outta the uncanny valley

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:34 (two days ago) link

^ yes. They look like video game representations of themselves.

calstars, Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:34 (two days ago) link

idk what Zuck's excuse is but Elon's definitely had a ton of implants put into his face so that he can look good from precisely one angle

frogbs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:41 (two days ago) link

Uncanny Valley, CA
Pop. 2

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:09 (two days ago) link

zuckerberg clearly some sort of not quite human inter dimensional traveler

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:33 (two days ago) link

boom

The SpaceX Starship rocket prototype SN4 exploded after an engine test this afternoon in Texas.

Credit: @LabPadre livestream https://t.co/aPJknKdl6M pic.twitter.com/gXKWTH0VLn

— Michael Sheetz (@thesheetztweetz) May 29, 2020

lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2020 19:56 (yesterday) link

imagine being the astronauts waiting on their rescheduled launch

frogbs, Friday, 29 May 2020 20:03 (yesterday) link

meteors did it

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 May 2020 20:03 (yesterday) link

Seems sad and wrong this is like the only thread mentioning NASA sending astronauts into space. But not as sad as the FB correspondent rocking the weird NASA Members Only jacket complete with mock epaulets in front of all the wood grain top “engineering desks.” This is not the spaceage timeline i hoped for.

stay safe and whole astronauts.

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Saturday, 30 May 2020 19:10 (thirty-one minutes ago) link

i guess there's this somewhat arcanely named thread also: DSKY-DSKY Him Sad: Official ILB Thread For The Heroic Age of Manned Spaceflight

mark s, Saturday, 30 May 2020 19:20 (twenty-one minutes ago) link

Shh!

Ernani and the Professor (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 May 2020 19:22 (nineteen minutes ago) link


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