Elon Musk

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i do follow tim but i guess whatever he said didn't stick

markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:27 (six years ago) link

cool monorail bro

lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:54 (six years ago) link

lol

markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:55 (six years ago) link

i have a plan for a train that goes from boston to atlanta in 10mins, its called lasertrain and ill give you some cool drawings of it in a couple weeks, its ridiculous no one is building it btw it only costs $10

lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:59 (six years ago) link

im not gonna build it tho cause im kinda busy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:00 (six years ago) link

even i can afford that

markers, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:00 (six years ago) link

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

isn't his point that hyperloop would be fraction of the cost and twice as fast?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:02 (six years ago) link

the douchey thing is that he made a big ol deal abt something thats not at all real

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:07 (six years ago) link

Which is how 70% of architecture and urban planning works.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (six years ago) link

sure 70% that sounds totally realistic too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (six years ago) link

I meant 94% sorry.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:12 (six years ago) link

To me, it really sounds like a kickstarter project... but from a billionaire.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:17 (six years ago) link

i mean who knows maybe its revolutionary technology but its so preliminary its p comical to call a press conference abt it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:18 (six years ago) link

maybe this is the best way to convince someone else to give it a shot idk

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:25 (six years ago) link

LOL "elon musk"

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:00 (six years ago) link

This should keep us occupied for a while: http://www.spacex.com/hyperloop

c21m50nh3x460n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:09 (six years ago) link

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

I wasn't scathing about Musk (I am about futurism in general) - if anything, he has a good track record on quixotic tech quests. I hope he's successful with this. I also hope there's a state left that can use it.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:37 (six years ago) link

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

Knowing how CA politics works (and the CA rail projects are amazingly political), how would you expect a non-arrogant to even get traction with this?

I have no doubt that Musk will solve the Hyperloop technical issues. I very much have doubts about him navigating Sacramento.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:40 (six years ago) link

I was describing this to my wife today and kept calling it Supertube.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:14 (six years ago) link

Bad connotations...

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/supertrain-1_7696.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:21 (six years ago) link

lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 06:23 (six years ago) link

Musk says the Hyperloop is best for distances of 900 miles. Beyond 900 miles, he thinks you're better off in a supersonic jet.

Lol

joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:33 (six years ago) link

I never use my supersonic jet anymore as parking is always a total bitch

joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:35 (six years ago) link

I have to say I rather like Elon Musk. He's made a massive pile of money and rather than sitting on it or managing it in mundane ways; he's making risky bets on thinks he's passionate about: Cars, Rockets, vacuum tubes.

Hyperloop seems a bit ridiculous to me, vacuum tube powered trains and trains in evacuated tubes are an old chestnut, almost as old as railways themselves. However, he's built a commercially viable private space programme and a car company* in the last ten years so anything is possible.

*Tesla isn't really a car company it's a power train company and if it is still making cars in 5 years I'll be surprised.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:18 (six years ago) link

ya i'm kinda ll for crackpot genius billionaires actually doing interesting stuff, up until they become str8 up supervillains obv

darraghmac, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (six years ago) link

lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.

― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:23 AM

he might do this

markers, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (six years ago) link

is this dude one of the crazy silicon valley libertarian types or is he just beloved by them?

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:27 (six years ago) link

iirc he has liberal tendencies mixed in w the libertarianism

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:28 (six years ago) link

xp I heard him speak and he seemed not crazy and to have some kind of social or at least environmental conscience, unlike the usual libertarian types, but maybe he's just better at hiding it

(I like him too fwiw and right now he seems one of the most likely "crackpot genius billionaires" to solve some hard problems which are overdue for solving, so I hope he carries on with that. Also hoping that one day I'll get to see/read his computer game that appeared in some 8-bit micro type-in listings mag in the 80s)

he's not as bad as some of the other silicon valley libtards, I'll give him that.

nonetheless, this is a stupid proposal

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:35 (six years ago) link

do tell

curious to read a critique that amounts to more than 'hyperlol'

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:48 (six years ago) link

I think it's dumb that he's throwing around numbers when he doesn't even have a working prototype. It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project. I also think the "open source" thing is pretty silly since it's not like code where an individual can make some kind of improvement and test it out to see if it works. I guess an open source design is an interesting idea after the fact if he actually gets it working and other people want to build his design, but it still seems basically irrelevant.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:15 (six years ago) link

Didn't he make his fortune with Peter thiel?
I don't know if that is "guilt by association" or "looking better by comparison"

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:15 (six years ago) link

It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project

^^^

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:18 (six years ago) link

A key part of his criticism of the other rail plan is that it's "more expensive to operate (if unsubsidized)." I'd like to see some more detailed numbers on that though. Why would we count the cost of unsubsidized rail against air travel which is heavily subsidized? All that really matters is cost to the traveller, and unlike airlines, I'm assuming the high speed rail system is not going to be run as a for-profit business. He also makes no comparison of the environmental costs of air flight vs. the planned high speed rail system.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:26 (six years ago) link

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, August 12, 2013 11:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm generally contemptuous of futurists, primarily because they seem to think energy and climate change problems will just sort themselves out, but a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing. I looked at the first two feeds you suggested and they seemed to just be saying this is just a toy for rich people, which is afaict completely unsupported by his proposal. He's not suggesting a magic carpet for billionaires; it's mass transit that uses solar power. This is a good thing! Maybe it's completely impossible hogwash, but I'd like to see actual engineering criticism of it instead of casual dismissals based on suspicion of ideas from rich people.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:41 (six years ago) link

the main challenges are not engineering-related, their political

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:43 (six years ago) link

anybody who is over the age of 25, has lived in a city for any length of time, and paid a modicum of attention to the world around them knows that these kinds of massive public works projects tend to be underbid by shady contractors and then they go wildly over the original schedule and budget. so the fact that he's coming in saying he can do it so much cheaper with a totally new and untested technology is a huge red flag. to me it immediately suggests that the whole thing is not serious.

if he honestly thinks this is a feasible plan he should raise some funding and build a private line from LA to Vegas.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:54 (six years ago) link

It's transparently unserious in that he doesn't want to do it himself and "regrets even mentioning it"

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:08 (six years ago) link

right, that aspect has been p funny

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:10 (six years ago) link

haha, I missed that part

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:11 (six years ago) link

ya seems like he said something offhandedly then realized abt his celebrity

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:12 (six years ago) link

a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing.

people don't commute the LA to SF corridor though. i have a hard time believing a transit system would fill the role of the 5 freeway. it's mostly trucks anyway.

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:13 (six years ago) link

You know what would do really well in transportation corridors like that? Plain old freight trains.

I swear, the interstate highway system and the fact it's mostly used for semi truck freight is the biggest money hole in our post-WW2 car-dependent wonderland

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:15 (six years ago) link

there already are freight trains

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:16 (six years ago) link

people don't commute the LA to SF corridor though.

?! they most certainly do. there are these things called commuter flights, they are booked solid all the time.

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:17 (six years ago) link

there are a lot more trucks xp

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:17 (six years ago) link

what exactly are you proposing?

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:20 (six years ago) link

a solar powered superhighway paved with bitcoins duh

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:21 (six years ago) link

that we subsidize more public transport of freight in addition to passengers? or at least reallocate money away from interstate highways

idk, iatee and his ideas about gas prices to thread

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:21 (six years ago) link

ime they had energy efficiency + renewable generation targets, climate action plans, etc. way before a lot of other similarly-sized companies

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:14 (one month ago) link

they’re a relentless machine for tackling optimization problems, regardless of ideological or ethical trappings

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:24 (one month ago) link

In Australia we had a spate of residential PV fires caused by poor quality and poorly installed DC isolators. Water would get in they would short, heat up and catch fire. I’d put a small amount of money on this being the installation contractors fault not the fault of Tesla.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 20:26 (one month ago) link

if their business proposition is anything like solarcity’s residential one, they *are* the installers or coordinate the installation work

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 21:45 (one month ago) link

unbelievable

Amazon fire claims add to Tesla’s troubles with PV installs

sleeve, Thursday, 29 August 2019 15:21 (one month ago) link

Rad! Under $10k is more like it.

DJI, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:34 (one month ago) link

100% electric does not solve our problems, but yeah, cars for rich people (currently subsidized in many US states by a wealth transfer to rich people) _definitely_ doesn't solve our problems.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 9 September 2019 18:41 (one month ago) link

My impression is that having as much of the global economy's energy needs supplied by electricity as possible is the most viable path to weaning us off fossil fuels. Personal vehicles as a method of transportation are terrible at efficiency, but getting people to stop loving their cars is going to be massively difficult. By comparison, getting them to adopt EVs will be child's play.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 9 September 2019 19:44 (one month ago) link

getting them to adopt EVs will be child's play.

this is going to happen v fast, with any luck. Given that the average lifespan of a car is 10 years, it's conceivable we see a massive shift within a decade.

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 September 2019 19:54 (one month ago) link

This is pretty good news on that front: https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2019/09/09/teslas-lab-secrets-talking-about-20-year-lithium-ion-battery/

DJI, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 00:09 (one month ago) link

Interesting they mention Sl_lSI partners in that. I’ve met them and they know a lot about finance and a a lot about wishful thinking but stuff all about battery chemistry. Basically they will invest in battery projects that meet their IRR requirements, preferably where someone else is holding the risk.

There are 20 year lithium batteries today. Toshiba Lithium Titanate cells should get you there at a (very high) price. It all comes down to whether the Tesla team can scale that chemistry and electrode structure in a cost effective way. This is probably a when, not if, but when is a long time where battery tech is concerned.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:47 (one month ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEmQEKcVAAE3IRl?format=jpg&name=small

mookieproof, Monday, 16 September 2019 16:05 (one month ago) link

what a defense!

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 16 September 2019 16:08 (one month ago) link

You don't understand, "Mr Unsworth is a pedo guy" is the name of my dog!

nickn, Monday, 16 September 2019 16:35 (one month ago) link

just some guys he does pranks with

Mitch C. Palace (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 16 September 2019 17:12 (one month ago) link

I see what u did there

Οὖτις, Monday, 16 September 2019 17:12 (one month ago) link

In determining my guilt or innocence the court must consider my frame of reference, which is whatever I say it is, because there is no way to corroborate my assertions.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 16 September 2019 17:40 (one month ago) link

Any Major Afrikaner Will Tell You

... (Eazy), Monday, 16 September 2019 17:43 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/elon-musk-unsworth-pedo-guy-deposition-private-investigator

let it be clear that "pedo guy" is a known insult among south african youth and not meant to be taken literally

also, Elon hired some scammer out of the UK who randomly offered to dig up dirt on pedo guy for $50K. he will, unfortunately, not be continuing the investigation as our prospective detective is currently in prison

mh, Friday, 4 October 2019 20:31 (one week ago) link

Elon Musk's deposition in the "pedo guy" defamation lawsuit is one of the most revealing windows into the way Elon Musk's brain works. I don't necessarily encourage you to dive in, but here are some highlights if you're curious: https://t.co/I12CnQWndG

— Aaron W. Gordon (@A_W_Gordon) October 8, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:51 (one week ago) link

He seemed suspicious.

mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:56 (one week ago) link

hope musks heart explodes from all the ching some day soon

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:01 (one week ago) link

Here's a great idea! Instead of thoroughly testing this feature, which would probably delay its release for months, if not a year or two, let's just release it and let our customers play around with it using their own vehicles. They'll tell us where are the problems are, then we can fix them!

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 14 October 2019 16:42 (two days ago) link

move fast and dent things

El Tomboto, Monday, 14 October 2019 17:31 (two days ago) link

some of these people just lack the MP

Tart Prepper (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 00:28 (yesterday) link

https://imgur.com/gallery/90y488u

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 06:07 (yesterday) link

nooooooooo


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