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i'm not getting that impression from all the tech ppl i follow

markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:17 (six years ago) link

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:18 (six years ago) link

You might be right, Johnny, dunno. I was just trying to figure out why there was this explosion of contempt all over my twitter feed after the announcement.

eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:19 (six years ago) link

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:24 (six years ago) link

i do follow tim but i guess whatever he said didn't stick

markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:27 (six years ago) link

cool monorail bro

lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:54 (six years ago) link

lol

markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:55 (six years ago) link

i have a plan for a train that goes from boston to atlanta in 10mins, its called lasertrain and ill give you some cool drawings of it in a couple weeks, its ridiculous no one is building it btw it only costs $10

lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:59 (six years ago) link

im not gonna build it tho cause im kinda busy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:00 (six years ago) link

even i can afford that

markers, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:00 (six years ago) link

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

isn't his point that hyperloop would be fraction of the cost and twice as fast?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:02 (six years ago) link

the douchey thing is that he made a big ol deal abt something thats not at all real

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:07 (six years ago) link

Which is how 70% of architecture and urban planning works.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (six years ago) link

sure 70% that sounds totally realistic too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (six years ago) link

I meant 94% sorry.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:12 (six years ago) link

To me, it really sounds like a kickstarter project... but from a billionaire.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:17 (six years ago) link

i mean who knows maybe its revolutionary technology but its so preliminary its p comical to call a press conference abt it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:18 (six years ago) link

maybe this is the best way to convince someone else to give it a shot idk

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:25 (six years ago) link

LOL "elon musk"

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:00 (six years ago) link

This should keep us occupied for a while: http://www.spacex.com/hyperloop

c21m50nh3x460n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:09 (six years ago) link

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

I wasn't scathing about Musk (I am about futurism in general) - if anything, he has a good track record on quixotic tech quests. I hope he's successful with this. I also hope there's a state left that can use it.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:37 (six years ago) link

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

Knowing how CA politics works (and the CA rail projects are amazingly political), how would you expect a non-arrogant to even get traction with this?

I have no doubt that Musk will solve the Hyperloop technical issues. I very much have doubts about him navigating Sacramento.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:40 (six years ago) link

I was describing this to my wife today and kept calling it Supertube.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:14 (six years ago) link

Bad connotations...

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/supertrain-1_7696.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:21 (six years ago) link

lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 06:23 (six years ago) link

Musk says the Hyperloop is best for distances of 900 miles. Beyond 900 miles, he thinks you're better off in a supersonic jet.

Lol

joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:33 (six years ago) link

I never use my supersonic jet anymore as parking is always a total bitch

joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:35 (six years ago) link

I have to say I rather like Elon Musk. He's made a massive pile of money and rather than sitting on it or managing it in mundane ways; he's making risky bets on thinks he's passionate about: Cars, Rockets, vacuum tubes.

Hyperloop seems a bit ridiculous to me, vacuum tube powered trains and trains in evacuated tubes are an old chestnut, almost as old as railways themselves. However, he's built a commercially viable private space programme and a car company* in the last ten years so anything is possible.

*Tesla isn't really a car company it's a power train company and if it is still making cars in 5 years I'll be surprised.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:18 (six years ago) link

ya i'm kinda ll for crackpot genius billionaires actually doing interesting stuff, up until they become str8 up supervillains obv

darraghmac, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (six years ago) link

lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.

― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:23 AM

he might do this

markers, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (six years ago) link

is this dude one of the crazy silicon valley libertarian types or is he just beloved by them?

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:27 (six years ago) link

iirc he has liberal tendencies mixed in w the libertarianism

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:28 (six years ago) link

xp I heard him speak and he seemed not crazy and to have some kind of social or at least environmental conscience, unlike the usual libertarian types, but maybe he's just better at hiding it

(I like him too fwiw and right now he seems one of the most likely "crackpot genius billionaires" to solve some hard problems which are overdue for solving, so I hope he carries on with that. Also hoping that one day I'll get to see/read his computer game that appeared in some 8-bit micro type-in listings mag in the 80s)

he's not as bad as some of the other silicon valley libtards, I'll give him that.

nonetheless, this is a stupid proposal

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:35 (six years ago) link

do tell

curious to read a critique that amounts to more than 'hyperlol'

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:48 (six years ago) link

I think it's dumb that he's throwing around numbers when he doesn't even have a working prototype. It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project. I also think the "open source" thing is pretty silly since it's not like code where an individual can make some kind of improvement and test it out to see if it works. I guess an open source design is an interesting idea after the fact if he actually gets it working and other people want to build his design, but it still seems basically irrelevant.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:15 (six years ago) link

Didn't he make his fortune with Peter thiel?
I don't know if that is "guilt by association" or "looking better by comparison"

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:15 (six years ago) link

It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project

^^^

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:18 (six years ago) link

A key part of his criticism of the other rail plan is that it's "more expensive to operate (if unsubsidized)." I'd like to see some more detailed numbers on that though. Why would we count the cost of unsubsidized rail against air travel which is heavily subsidized? All that really matters is cost to the traveller, and unlike airlines, I'm assuming the high speed rail system is not going to be run as a for-profit business. He also makes no comparison of the environmental costs of air flight vs. the planned high speed rail system.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:26 (six years ago) link

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, August 12, 2013 11:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm generally contemptuous of futurists, primarily because they seem to think energy and climate change problems will just sort themselves out, but a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing. I looked at the first two feeds you suggested and they seemed to just be saying this is just a toy for rich people, which is afaict completely unsupported by his proposal. He's not suggesting a magic carpet for billionaires; it's mass transit that uses solar power. This is a good thing! Maybe it's completely impossible hogwash, but I'd like to see actual engineering criticism of it instead of casual dismissals based on suspicion of ideas from rich people.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:41 (six years ago) link

the main challenges are not engineering-related, their political

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:43 (six years ago) link

anybody who is over the age of 25, has lived in a city for any length of time, and paid a modicum of attention to the world around them knows that these kinds of massive public works projects tend to be underbid by shady contractors and then they go wildly over the original schedule and budget. so the fact that he's coming in saying he can do it so much cheaper with a totally new and untested technology is a huge red flag. to me it immediately suggests that the whole thing is not serious.

if he honestly thinks this is a feasible plan he should raise some funding and build a private line from LA to Vegas.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:54 (six years ago) link

It's transparently unserious in that he doesn't want to do it himself and "regrets even mentioning it"

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:08 (six years ago) link

right, that aspect has been p funny

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:10 (six years ago) link

haha, I missed that part

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:11 (six years ago) link

ya seems like he said something offhandedly then realized abt his celebrity

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:12 (six years ago) link

a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing.

people don't commute the LA to SF corridor though. i have a hard time believing a transit system would fill the role of the 5 freeway. it's mostly trucks anyway.

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:13 (six years ago) link

You know what would do really well in transportation corridors like that? Plain old freight trains.

I swear, the interstate highway system and the fact it's mostly used for semi truck freight is the biggest money hole in our post-WW2 car-dependent wonderland

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:15 (six years ago) link

there already are freight trains

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:16 (six years ago) link

people don't commute the LA to SF corridor though.

?! they most certainly do. there are these things called commuter flights, they are booked solid all the time.

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:17 (six years ago) link

"there's always the AZ-5"

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:20 (one week ago) link

Saved by the weather, lucky bastards

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:21 (one week ago) link

Musk looks like a face transplant recipient. I don't know if it's the Michael Jackson stubble or what.

Sam Weller, Thursday, 28 May 2020 08:22 (one week ago) link

he and zuck def rolled straight outta the uncanny valley

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:34 (one week ago) link

^ yes. They look like video game representations of themselves.

calstars, Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:34 (one week ago) link

idk what Zuck's excuse is but Elon's definitely had a ton of implants put into his face so that he can look good from precisely one angle

frogbs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:41 (one week ago) link

Uncanny Valley, CA
Pop. 2

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:09 (one week ago) link

zuckerberg clearly some sort of not quite human inter dimensional traveler

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:33 (one week ago) link

boom

The SpaceX Starship rocket prototype SN4 exploded after an engine test this afternoon in Texas.

Credit: @LabPadre livestream https://t.co/aPJknKdl6M pic.twitter.com/gXKWTH0VLn

— Michael Sheetz (@thesheetztweetz) May 29, 2020

lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2020 19:56 (six days ago) link

imagine being the astronauts waiting on their rescheduled launch

frogbs, Friday, 29 May 2020 20:03 (six days ago) link

meteors did it

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 May 2020 20:03 (six days ago) link

Seems sad and wrong this is like the only thread mentioning NASA sending astronauts into space. But not as sad as the FB correspondent rocking the weird NASA Members Only jacket complete with mock epaulets in front of all the wood grain top “engineering desks.” This is not the spaceage timeline i hoped for.

stay safe and whole astronauts.

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Saturday, 30 May 2020 19:10 (five days ago) link

i guess there's this somewhat arcanely named thread also: DSKY-DSKY Him Sad: Official ILB Thread For The Heroic Age of Manned Spaceflight

mark s, Saturday, 30 May 2020 19:20 (five days ago) link

Shh!

Ernani and the Professor (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 May 2020 19:22 (five days ago) link

Congratulations to the Astronauts that left Earth today. Good choice

— Andy Milonakis (@andymilonakis) May 30, 2020

Ste, Sunday, 31 May 2020 14:59 (four days ago) link

pic.twitter.com/CgiuE9aL52

— No Context Russia (@Russia_NC) June 1, 2020

lag∞n, Monday, 1 June 2020 10:37 (three days ago) link

congratulations elon musk on catching up w soviet russia 60 years ago

plax (ico), Monday, 1 June 2020 11:13 (three days ago) link

Good luck finding a charging outlet in the middle of the ocean, genius.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 June 2020 17:27 (three days ago) link

jesus what is the pitch and roll on that drone boat, that sea looks pretty busy. i'm kinda like, 'is that real?'

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Monday, 1 June 2020 17:34 (three days ago) link

but let's compare with the video of soviet russia doing it 60 years ago.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 1 June 2020 17:37 (three days ago) link

oops

🚨🚨🚨
Tesla Model 3 plows info overturned truck on highway. I’m sure the driver was paying complete attention to the road and wasn’t relying on autopilot because he was told the car could drive itself....$TSLAQ pic.twitter.com/cHjueqH0j4

— hand washing rooster 🐓 (@jsin86524368) June 1, 2020

lag∞n, Monday, 1 June 2020 19:09 (three days ago) link

did he died

||||||||, Monday, 1 June 2020 19:11 (three days ago) link

every human being in that video seems like a bad driver

Karl Malone, Monday, 1 June 2020 19:13 (three days ago) link

not even injured xp https://insideevs.com/news/426312/video-tesla-crash-stopped-truck

lag∞n, Monday, 1 June 2020 19:28 (three days ago) link

good cars confirmed

||||||||, Monday, 1 June 2020 19:30 (three days ago) link

it seems the Autopilot system has some issues in detecting stationary objects

details, details

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 1 June 2020 19:56 (three days ago) link

All cars are bad

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 June 2020 20:02 (three days ago) link

On the plus side, there was no gas tank to burst into flames.

nickn, Monday, 1 June 2020 21:19 (three days ago) link

the autopilot knew he'd survive and learn something important about trusting autopilot -- a lesson that could save his life someday.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 1 June 2020 21:55 (three days ago) link

or perhaps the autopilot ai takes twitter input and made a different optimization that failed

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 1 June 2020 21:56 (three days ago) link

i’m so thoroughly pissed at this reality and the “i’m sure x” OP, and also aware of the difference, that i wanna throw up my hands and answer “i hope it happens to you.” to be sure i really don’t, but ftw.

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Monday, 1 June 2020 22:51 (three days ago) link

and by OP i mean the twunt, not lagoon tbc.

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Monday, 1 June 2020 22:52 (three days ago) link

it wld never happen to me the autopilot looks out for me

lag∞n, Monday, 1 June 2020 23:13 (three days ago) link


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