1) shouldn't we fix BART / buses / systems that working class people use before building toys for rich people
There are lots of problems everywhere all the time. Can't let it stop technology from moving forward.
2) LA-to-SF only is ridiculous, there's like a whole state in there
There's a whole country, even! LA-to-SF sounds like a perfectly fine beta test.
3) nobody wants to hear half-baked plans from an arrogant rich dude
Not all rich dudes are arrogant. Elon Musk has never struck me as anything close to that.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
people on twitter so mad.
who do you follow?
― markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
i'm not getting that impression from all the tech ppl i follow
unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
You might be right, Johnny, dunno. I was just trying to figure out why there was this explosion of contempt all over my twitter feed after the announcement.
― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn
― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link
i do follow tim but i guess whatever he said didn't stick
― markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
cool monorail bro
― lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link
lol
― markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link
i have a plan for a train that goes from boston to atlanta in 10mins, its called lasertrain and ill give you some cool drawings of it in a couple weeks, its ridiculous no one is building it btw it only costs $10
― lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link
im not gonna build it tho cause im kinda busy
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link
even i can afford that
― markers, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link
isn't his point that hyperloop would be fraction of the cost and twice as fast?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link
the douchey thing is that he made a big ol deal abt something thats not at all real
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link
Which is how 70% of architecture and urban planning works.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link
sure 70% that sounds totally realistic too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link
I meant 94% sorry.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link
To me, it really sounds like a kickstarter project... but from a billionaire.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:17 (ten years ago) link
i mean who knows maybe its revolutionary technology but its so preliminary its p comical to call a press conference abt it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link
maybe this is the best way to convince someone else to give it a shot idk
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link
LOL "elon musk"
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link
This should keep us occupied for a while: http://www.spacex.com/hyperloop
― c21m50nh3x460n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link
I wasn't scathing about Musk (I am about futurism in general) - if anything, he has a good track record on quixotic tech quests. I hope he's successful with this. I also hope there's a state left that can use it.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:37 (ten years ago) link
Knowing how CA politics works (and the CA rail projects are amazingly political), how would you expect a non-arrogant to even get traction with this?
I have no doubt that Musk will solve the Hyperloop technical issues. I very much have doubts about him navigating Sacramento.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:40 (ten years ago) link
I was describing this to my wife today and kept calling it Supertube.
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:14 (ten years ago) link
Bad connotations...
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/supertrain-1_7696.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:21 (ten years ago) link
lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link
Musk says the Hyperloop is best for distances of 900 miles. Beyond 900 miles, he thinks you're better off in a supersonic jet.
Lol
― joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:33 (ten years ago) link
I never use my supersonic jet anymore as parking is always a total bitch
― joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link
I have to say I rather like Elon Musk. He's made a massive pile of money and rather than sitting on it or managing it in mundane ways; he's making risky bets on thinks he's passionate about: Cars, Rockets, vacuum tubes.
Hyperloop seems a bit ridiculous to me, vacuum tube powered trains and trains in evacuated tubes are an old chestnut, almost as old as railways themselves. However, he's built a commercially viable private space programme and a car company* in the last ten years so anything is possible.
*Tesla isn't really a car company it's a power train company and if it is still making cars in 5 years I'll be surprised.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
ya i'm kinda ll for crackpot genius billionaires actually doing interesting stuff, up until they become str8 up supervillains obv
― darraghmac, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:23 AM
― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:23 AM
he might do this
― markers, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
is this dude one of the crazy silicon valley libertarian types or is he just beloved by them?
― carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
iirc he has liberal tendencies mixed in w the libertarianism
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
xp I heard him speak and he seemed not crazy and to have some kind of social or at least environmental conscience, unlike the usual libertarian types, but maybe he's just better at hiding it
(I like him too fwiw and right now he seems one of the most likely "crackpot genius billionaires" to solve some hard problems which are overdue for solving, so I hope he carries on with that. Also hoping that one day I'll get to see/read his computer game that appeared in some 8-bit micro type-in listings mag in the 80s)
― the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
he's not as bad as some of the other silicon valley libtards, I'll give him that.
nonetheless, this is a stupid proposal
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
do tell
curious to read a critique that amounts to more than 'hyperlol'
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
I think it's dumb that he's throwing around numbers when he doesn't even have a working prototype. It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project. I also think the "open source" thing is pretty silly since it's not like code where an individual can make some kind of improvement and test it out to see if it works. I guess an open source design is an interesting idea after the fact if he actually gets it working and other people want to build his design, but it still seems basically irrelevant.
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
Didn't he make his fortune with Peter thiel?I don't know if that is "guilt by association" or "looking better by comparison"
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project
^^^
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link
A key part of his criticism of the other rail plan is that it's "more expensive to operate (if unsubsidized)." I'd like to see some more detailed numbers on that though. Why would we count the cost of unsubsidized rail against air travel which is heavily subsidized? All that really matters is cost to the traveller, and unlike airlines, I'm assuming the high speed rail system is not going to be run as a for-profit business. He also makes no comparison of the environmental costs of air flight vs. the planned high speed rail system.
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, August 12, 2013 11:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm generally contemptuous of futurists, primarily because they seem to think energy and climate change problems will just sort themselves out, but a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing. I looked at the first two feeds you suggested and they seemed to just be saying this is just a toy for rich people, which is afaict completely unsupported by his proposal. He's not suggesting a magic carpet for billionaires; it's mass transit that uses solar power. This is a good thing! Maybe it's completely impossible hogwash, but I'd like to see actual engineering criticism of it instead of casual dismissals based on suspicion of ideas from rich people.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
the main challenges are not engineering-related, their political
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link
anybody who is over the age of 25, has lived in a city for any length of time, and paid a modicum of attention to the world around them knows that these kinds of massive public works projects tend to be underbid by shady contractors and then they go wildly over the original schedule and budget. so the fact that he's coming in saying he can do it so much cheaper with a totally new and untested technology is a huge red flag. to me it immediately suggests that the whole thing is not serious.
if he honestly thinks this is a feasible plan he should raise some funding and build a private line from LA to Vegas.
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link
It's transparently unserious in that he doesn't want to do it himself and "regrets even mentioning it"
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
right, that aspect has been p funny
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
haha, I missed that part
― wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
ya seems like he said something offhandedly then realized abt his celebrity
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing.
people don't commute the LA to SF corridor though. i have a hard time believing a transit system would fill the role of the 5 freeway. it's mostly trucks anyway.
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link
You know what would do really well in transportation corridors like that? Plain old freight trains.
I swear, the interstate highway system and the fact it's mostly used for semi truck freight is the biggest money hole in our post-WW2 car-dependent wonderland
― carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
kyrie, same sitch
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:56 (one week ago) link
He still alive?
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:37 (one week ago) link
yes he hit an amazing buzzer beater the other night
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:39 (one week ago) link
a bunch of articles have just floated by about Larry Ellison being just as much of a shithead doing many of the same things as Elon, some worse, but people don’t care because he’s not tweeting. buying 90% of a hawaiian island and wrecking it for the inhabitants he seems to be trying to force into indentured servitude, but he doesn’t tweet about it. bill gates used to draw big heat but mostly because everyone had to use windows
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:40 (one week ago) link
elons in a tough spot cause his celebrity powers his businesses but he fucked it all up
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:43 (one week ago) link
A self driving @Tesla drove straight into my parked car in a residential area and Tesla Insurance has no way to directly contact them so I am stuck with no car and a Tesla adjuster not returning any calls for nearly a week. @elonmusk your cars, app and insurance suck.— Drunk Uncle (@DrunkUncleATX) March 19, 2024
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 01:00 (one week ago) link
Kyrie is definitely similar but I think he’s more of a genuine weirdo whereas Rodgers always has to be the smartest person in the room
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 01:37 (one week ago) link
https://bsky.app/profile/vpsreports.bsky.social/post/3ko3ocwh5432a
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 09:23 (one week ago) link
oh no
I hope the curb is okay
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 11:21 (one week ago) link
My only regret is he wasn't giving Roger Stone a lift at the time.
I guess Tesla is good now.
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 11:25 (one week ago) link
lol DJPthe not wearing seatbelts is the cherry on topI bet they had those Punisher seatbelt blanks they sell so macho guys who don't want to wear a belt can stop the car from beeping
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 11:40 (one week ago) link
ums, I had gone my entire life not knowing such a thing existed and you ruined it.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 11:53 (one week ago) link
I'm pretty sure the vaccine killed them
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 13:52 (one week ago) link
The vaccine is a good shot.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 13:56 (one week ago) link
https://www.threads.net/@amescoestate/post/C4wE3ivPoMb/?xmt=AQGzV2B9frzfP54mh0vYWWPvRpMk5-YhouSiax-rIK_lkA
love to fix my brand new cybertruck with duct tape ($300 option at dealer)
― 龜, Thursday, 21 March 2024 16:30 (one week ago) link
lmao
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 March 2024 16:33 (one week ago) link
sorry PBKR! had to share the horror I guess
Toxicology reports came back on Angela Chao who drowned on her 900 acre ranch after reversing her $TSLA into a lake (after a Pitbull concert) and her BAC was 0.233 (vs TX legal limit 0.08), Elon must be elated it wasn't a vehicle error.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 21 March 2024 16:47 (one week ago) link
whoops!
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:27 (one week ago) link
That’s a lot of alcohol. Sad!I still haven’t seen a cybertruck in the wild and am ok with that
― tobo73, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:40 (one week ago) link
failed to meet reserve https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3RyYX4Nx/2024-tesla-cybertruck-foundation-series
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 23 March 2024 02:24 (five days ago) link
no way all those preorders turn into orders.the preorder deposit was $100.
― formerly abanana (dat), Saturday, 23 March 2024 07:57 (five days ago) link
heh
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:m7w6mfn35d53chutrzjzgkng/bafkreiaxcfdjmxybf2ujidzan663taxmfgsvo2nub45yctorglvzawoo5m@jpeg
― lag∞n, Sunday, 24 March 2024 17:13 (four days ago) link
Saw my first cyber truck in the wild last night. Wow! Bright red.
― tobo73, Sunday, 24 March 2024 18:34 (four days ago) link
it's crazy how quickly the Tesla became the douche bag's car of choice
― budo jeru, Sunday, 24 March 2024 19:58 (four days ago) link
I thought they only came in stainless steel. (Until I got to Montana, I thought Tesla cars only came in white, but I've seen blue and red ones around here.)
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Sunday, 24 March 2024 20:32 (four days ago) link
you can get an aftermarket vinyl wrap put on there, i seen a black one online
― lag∞n, Sunday, 24 March 2024 21:08 (four days ago) link
they come in stainless streel and in italian hoagie
― 龜, Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:42 (four days ago) link
White was for several years the only Tesla color that wasn't $1,000-$2,500 extra cost which made it more popular. Black was originally the one no-extra-cost color; now it appears that grey is.
― Lee626, Sunday, 24 March 2024 23:12 (four days ago) link
it's not the reason, but it'd be funny if the unfinished look was meant to be a prompt for people to wrap or paint their own vehicles because Elon refuses to let them do an interesting color on the other models
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 25 March 2024 15:35 (three days ago) link
https://bondangle.substack.com/p/tesla-q1-trends-rockslide
$TSLA fundamentals getting worse, tbd if the stock price will continue to reflect that
― 龜, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:22 (two days ago) link
whats it say
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:28 (two days ago) link
i dunno i just read the first graf above the paywall cuz i'm not a subscriber but the first graf sounds bad
― 龜, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:35 (two days ago) link
lol it does sound bad
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:41 (two days ago) link
I mean you have to go back to pre-pandemic to find a time when people were actually excited about Tesla, all they've done since are self-driving features which don't work and the dumbest looking truck in the history of trucks
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:42 (two days ago) link
previous article linked there (from 1/26/24) isn't behind paywall
― bulb after bulb, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:49 (two days ago) link