Finally Rich - Chief Keef

250 is the new gold

i think the 250k thing is more of a semantic thing, like 'if you don't hit that number, we're not even obligated to work your next lead single and pretend to give you a release date.' xp

Prob true

I doubt the label is trying to wash their hands of him or anything though

xiu xiu up like o-dogg

"love sosa" remix ain't exactly helping your case deej: tinyurl.com/ka57yuv

http://tinyurl.com/ka57yuv

half way through his verse he speeds up the tempo

Reminds me of Trane...

Sun Ship era maybe

We was sittin’ there watchin’ the stage. Waitin’ for the man they called Chief Keef to come out and do his thing. It was me and my four droogs. Them bein’ Peter, Georgio and Dim; Dim being really Dim.

‘Round an hour’d passed and the place was packed straight through to the back. I’d just dropped some dollars for the Best Buy exclusive version of Finally Rich six months back. Now was the time, this was the place. The Harambee House. Chicago. 2012.

I was only there for the first night, see, but them cats at DatPiff just made my life complete. They put out a few mixtapes of all that sound. Keef put out those nights. But you know my type, man. Can’t afford to eat, let alone spend some heavy cash on internet. So I only got the essential. <i>Finally Rich</i> is one disc, makin’ it cheaper than an iPhone. And you only get the best stuff.

Man, the opening beauty of “Love Sosa” It’s like a dream I had: I floated on the River Nile, smokin’ some fresh weed, relaxin’. But I ain’t ever gonna see the Nile anyhow. This track’s as close as I come, and it’s close enough. Best of the best, though, has gotta be “Laughin' to the Bank.” It’s only when you listen to a perfect old rap tune like this that you realize how much "trap rave" is derived from this music. Keef takes it to heaven and back with some style, man. Some richness, daddy. It’s a sad thing his career was cut short by them jaws o’ label fuckery.

Shit, cat. It don’t make a difference. The man produced enough good music to last me a lifetime. This <i>Finally Rich</i> thing’s just another example of the genius of Keef.

--D-40

― finally rich, fun-packed, fulfilling (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, January 2, 2013 1:10 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rolls eyes, dies

now i feel bad that we've got the Keef thread and the Kreayshawn thread going on at the same time

if you guys like arguing w/ a wholly inaccurate caricature of what ive said then have fun

straw mans
thats that shit i dont like

that song is so catchy

we watched the video for "don't like" in my class last night because a st gave her first speech about him. it (the speech) was pretty good! another st said that he met keef at a car wash and he (ck) was friendly and shook his hand.

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/09/gangs-of-social-media/

piece is interesting although a lil weird in parts ... the way it suggests social media bears responsibility seems a lil odd

i found this piece very interesting, argues that violence overall has gone down, but violence inequality has increased drastically:
http://danielhertz.wordpress.com/2013/08/05/weve-talked-about-homicide-in-chicago-at-least-one-million-times-but-i-dont-think-this-has-come-up/

bears *most of* the responsibility, i should say

yeah, that hertz piece was v illuminating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLWDM2uZr60#t=163

Not sure how much creativity this guy has in the tank, visually or lyrically.

his verse on the "F.D.B." remix is kind of hilariously poorly recorded, and there's a Young Dro interview where he confirms Keef is on the official remix so it's not like a sloppily tacked-on unofficial mixtape edit or something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d30pRWxLxrA

yeah seriously what in the absolute fuck is the deal with that

why would they include that? was it recorded in a soup can?

when that hemiola comes and...doesn't stop...

― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, November 25, 2013 6:14 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that verse is still awesome

as does this album.

haha I thought of this thread when Jordan said that but thought it would be petty to bring it up

Hemiola is a common musical term it's v telling that u all read so much more into it than was there

can we have a hip-hop hemiola thread?

how common would you say it is, like how often would you say musicians use it

i mean...there's a lot of hemiola in rap these days, people usually just call it "the migos flow" or back in the day might've said "bone thugs flow"... i just disagree that keef is using it at all in that big lean song. the meter of his verse and what beats his syllables are hitting on (or near) seems clear as day to me and it's not a hemiola thing at all imo.

hahaha oh god i didn't mean to actually start this up again i'm so sorry

this fredo santana song is all over the fucking place, er, I mean, he's truly a master of hemiola in the Elvin Jones tradition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcZp4YeCsB8

I hear hemiola constantly but I sing a lot of Byrd, Schütz, Palestrina, Gesualdo, Tallis, etc. Anyone doing Renaissance or baroque music is going to be intimately familiar with it; jazz musicians will also be familiar with the concept but I have no idea if they use the same terminology (having just learned last week that some jazz musicians call a score a "chart", I now assume there's a different term for everything in that world).

I am willing to bet money that no one in the studio told Keef that his hemiola was dope after any take.

Partially because I doubt the term would be common usage but mostly because nothing I've heard Keef do on record has anything to do with the concept of hemiola

omg that fredo santana song, best song about playing with your balls ever

hahaha oh god i didn't mean to actually start this up again i'm so sorry

― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:46 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

u lie

I am willing to bet money that no one in the studio told Keef that his hemiola was dope after any take.

― SHAUN (DJP), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:57 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and i doubt people said that to jazz musicians using it either whats your point?

Partially because I doubt the term would be common usage but mostly because nothing I've heard Keef do on record has anything to do with the concept of hemiola

― SHAUN (DJP), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my pt was that he's using an atypical rhythmic trick there, which is undeniably true

this fredo santana song is all over the fucking place, er, I mean, he's truly a master of hemiola in the Elvin Jones tradition

― tuostprophets (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:53 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the entire thing had nothing to do w/ the micro level of being slightly off beat which is a longtime affect of his flow and was about a particular answer but yr Intentionally Misinterpret An Argument tactic is dumb

the notion that an artist needs to be consciously aware that the rhythmic technique he's using has a precedent and a name in music theory is beside the point / has nothing to do w/ whether or not he's consciously using it

can't you guys just admit that you kept giving david shit about this because "hemiola" is an absurdly ridiculous phrase

just like, the sound of it

and i doubt people said that to jazz musicians using it either whats your point?

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:18 AM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my pt was that he's using an atypical rhythmic trick there, which is undeniably true

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:18 AM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the undeniable chops and evident years and years of careful practice and woodshedding inherant in Chief Keef and Fredo Santana definitely lead me to believe that they are using "tricks" from the jazz arsenal instead of just being shitty rappers who can't stay on a beat

what i'm getting out of this is that none of you know what hemiola means

xp

and i doubt people said that to jazz musicians using it either whats your point?

well now my point is "you don't read what other people write" considering that here you are parroting back at me something that I JUST WROTE

xp: hold on there, Jordan

chief keef was recording for five years and wasn't using tricks from 'the jazz arsenal' but rather tricks from popular music that are unusual for a rapper to use in a flow, the only reason we associate hemiola w/ jazz is 70+ years of theoretical writing (which, incidentally, was written after the fact, not something that jazz musicians were consciously like "now i shall employ hemiola") which came in its wake.

and the off-beat affect of keef's flow isn't what we're talking abt here at all but keep changing the subject

you guys can't be serious

there is nothing funnier than a hopeless double-down but I am afraid one day we're going to accidentally Ottify deej