in retrospect, how did Rob Liefeld ever manage to hold down a artist job in the comics industry?

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Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Saturday, 29 October 2005 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/Pandas/liefeldWTF.jpg

Cor-Ray (chaki), Saturday, 8 July 2006 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j238/sage1701/liefeld.gif

Cor-Ray (chaki), Saturday, 8 July 2006 04:20 (thirteen years ago) link

DOOD YOU ARE KILLING ME

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Saturday, 8 July 2006 04:25 (thirteen years ago) link

CAN NOT STOP LUAGHIUIUGNB

the eunuchs, Cassim and Mustafa, who guarded Abdur Ali's harem (orion), Saturday, 8 July 2006 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, it's well established that RL can't or won't draw feet. But what the fuck is up with Robin's right leg?

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 8 July 2006 09:00 (thirteen years ago) link

AMPUTEE FETISH

Vic F (Vic Fluro), Saturday, 8 July 2006 09:12 (thirteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
I saw Judgement Day in a shop the other day. I was amazed that it ever got published.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

self-published kinda explains that

energy flash gordon, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 01:39 (twelve years ago) link

I don't mind the strange body shapes and positions, I'm freaked out by unnatural number of visible teeth.

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J, Thursday, 5 April 2007 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

Dammit

http://www.checkerbpg.com/images/jd11_md.jpg

J, Thursday, 5 April 2007 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

Remind me to scan some images of the 10 cent X-Force issues I picked up on holiday recently. These are from the period post-Liefeld and it's amazing how good they make him look by comparison. I want to say it's Rob Pacella pencils and Dan Panosian inks, but I'd love to hear the behind-the-scenes of how much lead time these poor bastards got when it was discovered that Liefeld was gone and somebody needed to ape his style but quick.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 6 April 2007 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

eight months pass...

Via Douglas:
http://progressiveboink.com/archive/robliefeld.html

forksclovetofu, Friday, 7 December 2007 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

just giggling my ass off at work reading that.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 7 December 2007 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

I saw that during the blackout and meant to post it when we came back up. I'm glad you guys got to see it.

"He wears a baseball cap backwards, and when he turns it around it's still backwards."

Oilyrags, Saturday, 8 December 2007 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

"Your characters aren't shitting out ladders when they jump."

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 8 December 2007 02:41 (twelve years ago) link

I can't figure whether liefeld, miller or mcfarlane is the main reason why I don't post here except to talk about old graphic novel reprints, and looking at that, I'm pretty sure the answer is liefeld.

Jesus.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 December 2007 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't read them in years, but I remember thinking that Todd McFarlene's run of Spider-man and especially the Hulk with Peter David that were pretty good. McFarlene was really good at drawing fight scenes and action. There was always a bunch of detail of glass and rock flying all over the place.

I completely missed the whole Image comics boom/bust from the 90s. At least from the couple episodes I saw, I thought that Spawn cartoon HBO did was OK. I never read the comic.

I've got the Hulk run on a DVD, so I may have to revisit those issues. I thought the Mr. Fixit issues were pretty cool way to bring back the gray Hulk. Peter David was one of the better mainstream comic writers of the late 80s.

At least from what I have read of McFarlene, he seems like a douche, so i can understand the blow back, but I remember liking those Marvel issues he did.

earlnash, Saturday, 8 December 2007 06:35 (twelve years ago) link

#24 won't load for me. :(

Leee, Saturday, 8 December 2007 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

McFarlane did have a great run on AS-M but jesus, Image was so horrible. Dark times.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 December 2007 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

SPAWN #11, written by Frank Miller, is the worst comic I've ever read. I still remember vividly how awful and repellent it was.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 December 2007 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

so

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 10 August 2009 22:21 (ten years ago) link

Thanx 4 new screenname.

I agree with Cameron Stewart that this was a pretty juvenile prank. Since people were willing to buy shitloads of his crappy comics in the 1990s, is it really his fault that he saw no reason to improve his craft?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 11:59 (ten years ago) link

Dude's a tool, I mean, everything in the tone of that blog post certifies him as such. I don't think artists should have to "apologize" for messing up characters (except perhaps to their creators?), either, whole thing's pretty retarded. Plus, you know, TAKING A STAND against Rob Liefeld in 2009.

I don't agree with your argument tho Tuomas, of course the guy should have kept working at his craft! He should have recognized the adulation of the public for the shallow thing it is and followed his muse to ever more challenging territories, allowing the talent we saw on X-Force and Youngblood to bloom to its full potential ;)

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 14:13 (ten years ago) link

The thing is, though... that it did bloom to its full potential.

it's like i have a couple worked up vadges under my arms (HI DERE), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 14:17 (ten years ago) link

btw:

http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2009/07/IMG_6988.jpg

^^^^ awesome

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 14:32 (ten years ago) link

hahahahaha

For an incredibly hatable guy he is extremely likable!

it's like i have a couple worked up vadges under my arms (HI DERE), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 14:34 (ten years ago) link

he has the pleasant joyful demeanor of new money! not like those sour new england types.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 17:57 (ten years ago) link

(am looking for a picture of gary brodsky frowning for contrast)

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 17:57 (ten years ago) link

of course the guy should have kept working at his craft!

any minute now, he's going to break out those life drawings that he told Hart Fisher would blow Fisher's mind. that was only, what, eleven years ago?

more funny and original than, 'ow you say, a penis (sic), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 03:30 (ten years ago) link

If Rob Liefeld revealed himself to actually be a highly-competent draftsman who had been churning out wretched garbage for years simply for a larf, I think I would love Rob Liefeld to the max.

Smash! Crash! Bash! Mash! Come and get it, human trash! (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 03:37 (ten years ago) link

any minute now, he's going to break out those life drawings that he told Hart Fisher would blow Fisher's mind. that was only, what, eleven years ago?

It'll be so weird when he finally realeases those and it turns out they're all oil paintings of the Keyboard Cat.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 12:26 (ten years ago) link

"If Rob Liefeld revealed himself to actually be a highly-competent draftsman"

this would be a great prank by the robster for sure, but also justifies all sorts of abuse, including throwing marvel instructional books at him. anything mean-spirited about liefeld-bashing evaporates if it turns out he wasn't earnestly trying to the best of his ability.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 17:05 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

man you give a guy one issue of KING magazine and the next thing you know the white queen has a MASSIVE ASS

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:11 (nine years ago) link

that's a swipe from the two gargantuassed chicks on the beach that made the rounds some years ago and I claim my five dollars

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:12 (nine years ago) link

has to be on confounded's culture corner thread

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:12 (nine years ago) link

Not Liefeld, but

Can we have an actual name then?

you live in a space battle homo cave (sic), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:38 (nine years ago) link

The link says it's Kaare Andrews. I think he's the guy who wrote and drew that weird Spider-Man dystopia story, where Mary Jane was killed by Spider-Man's radioactive sperm. I thought he did a nice enough Milleresque job there, but the pic above is a bit silly. I wouldn't mind him drawing superheroines with some proper ass, as not so many artists tend to do that, but the butt-to-waist ration on Storm and Emma is ridiculous. Also, the ankles on the girl on the left look seriously anorexic. He's not Liefeld-level crappy though, for example I think he's pretty good at drawing faces.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:51 (nine years ago) link

He's most likely still better than Simone Bianchi, who did a terrible, terrible job on Astonishing X-Men. I'd take big butts over Bianchi's stiff and lifeless painted figures any day. And at least Andrews can draw some proper action scenes, with Bianchi's crappy art they were almost impossible to follow.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:57 (nine years ago) link

on the evidence of Morrison's Shining Knight, Bianchi can actually draw humans, unlike that pic above, but yes, is a completely incompetent cartoonist.

you live in a space battle homo cave (sic), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 12:54 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

Knight and Day is freakin' great! @TomCruise is at his finest! Tons of great action, thrills and laughs. Real crowd pleaser!

31 minutes ago via web
robertliefeld

dyaon't (sic), Thursday, 24 June 2010 05:20 (nine years ago) link

"The link says it's Kaare Andrews. I think he's the guy who wrote and drew that weird Spider-Man dystopia story, where Mary Jane was killed by Spider-Man's radioactive sperm."

what

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:15 (nine years ago) link

yes, it happened

Nhex, Thursday, 24 June 2010 18:45 (nine years ago) link

okay now I am mad, why am I agreeing with Rob Liefeld about anything, let alone a wafer-thin movie

speaking of Movies: http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/05/12/brett-ratner-youngblood-movie-x-men/

Slumpman, Monday, 28 June 2010 20:56 (nine years ago) link

Why has he never just created a character like The Pouch, with every inch of human anatomy obscured by countless pouches? Play to your strengths, Rob!

why must you constantly underestimate this man

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 17:31 (six months ago) link

I love that the pouch gun is firing... a pouch

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 17:32 (six months ago) link

that literally is the best Liefeld drawing I've ever seen

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 17:37 (six months ago) link

Agreed - tho the intersection of gun & left hand still isn't quite right.

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 17:57 (six months ago) link

that literally is the best Liefeld drawing I've ever seen


well it is composed entirely of the one thing rob has spent his entire career drawing

(Appears only as a corpse) (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:22 (six months ago) link

OMG, I...I honestly thought I was just being a wisenheimer.

It's simultaneously his best and most self-aware drawing ever.

Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 22:05 (six months ago) link


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