JEANS

Not that I want this head-to-toe look, but I don't think this girl is feeling apologetic about her ass:

http://mybabyjo.com/clothes/capridenim_lg.jpg

it might also be a problem that i don't have nice ankles, otherwise i think i might be able to pull of this look.

Well, you don't have to wear capris. I do prefer the skinny jeans short-ish, just around the ankle bone, but that's just me.

My only advice on jeans is to buy them as tight and as dark as possible.

I agree with this!^^^^ Except now that it's summer Levis thinks we all want light blue, instead of dark denim. Bastards.

Wear them in a thinner material, you just need to try the texture, some jeans are made thicker than others and are hotter. I mean I could go into extreme detail about how every shape can wear those skinny jeans/capris look if you know how to do it but basically wear jeans in the summer but make sure the material isn't one thats too heavy. You'll know, trust.

I ain't worn jeans in over two years, I think? I might never wear them again. This is just me, but I don't think that jeans are very flattering on fifty-something year-old guys. Pair them with sneakers and it gets truly blecch. I want to look dignified in my old age, ffs.

so you're telling us you're not paul newman or robert redford eh

guess so!

But basically I think I just don't like jeans. Period.

The revival in recent years of designer jeans with stupid embroidery on the back pockets really rankled me. I forgot to complain about that on the "Nineties Fashion" thread...

I respect your position on jeans, dell. It's good to have standards.

Thanks, that's a kind way of putting it!

laurel, are the wrangler jeans you like the slim-fit cowboy cut?

i ask because i was just looking around at various jeans online and found a wrangler style that looked decent: mid-rise, slim fit, straight leg.

Wrangler? I've never bought Wranglers...? I went through 2 or 3 pars of Lee Dungarees but they stopped making the ones I loved.

oh, ok. i mixed up lee and wrangler.

ok you guys, i bought the jbrand jeans. i was meeting my mom at nordstrom anyway, so figured i would try them on which would immediately stop all my longing because they looked so stupid. but they didn't, i really like them.

only trouble is-- they're way more low rise than i'm used to (this is partly because i have a natural urkel waist so everything feels too low rise to me), and i have a tiny bit of muffin top hanging over. they are tight (and very dark), so i don't know if that will improve as it stretches out over the next few wears? i never ever wear tops that bare the midriff, either, so think it shouldn't matter because it will be completely covered. but if it does, please tell me and i will go get my $200 back, that would be OK.

Ladies:

Take a look at A.P.C. New Cure or Hipster model jeans.

IMO these are the best jeans in the women's market.

Steve Shasta please advise as to jeans that accommodate 5'11' girls with high hip-to-waist ratio.

Someone told me Joe's Jeans Muses but I'm not sure???

apc jeans are relatively short inseam, right? hudson i think are v long, i haven't tried any myself

shasta, please help me with A.P.C. jeans sizing. i tried on the new cure this weekend in a size 29. in levi's or whatever i usually wear a 27. the 29 was too small to even button and just barely made it over my hips. now, looking at their website i see that 30 is the largest size they even offer. is APC trying to tell me that i am a fat?

now everything i'm reading about APC jeans says to go several sizes down from your usually size? what the hell?

Guys, my company's CEO sent out an email on Friday saying we can all wear jeans through Labor Day. Woo! And I was about to buy some summer work pants. jeans and $$$ saved.

A.P.C. are true to size. They will shrink if you wash in hot water and machine-dry, so I'd rinse in cool water when you need to clean the garment.

The seat and yoke of most jeans are constructed via using chainstitching to make double-interlock flat seams. This means is that jeans in their native state will give a little in the seat(butt)/lower back. With a pair of A.P.C.s that will last at least 10 years, you should try to find the most snug fit possible because they will "stretch" (ie, due to seam construction as opposed to fabrication components). I would go for the 29 (with effort) and if that's too uncomfortable try the 30. Raw denim is very coarse and stiff at first, it will begin softening immediately with wear.

Many US companies began "vanity sizing" in the 80s, convincing people that they wore a smaller size than what the garment measures out to be (eg, a size 27" garment measures to a true 29"). Some brands (like Levi's) resisted this trend for over a decade until they saw their sales decrease because those brands "didn't fit" the consumer. European and Asian companies do not vanity size which may explain the variance.

Vanity sizing is the worst - size small became size large pretty quickly as everyone stopped exercising and started eating like shit. It's crazy, buy a size small from 1980 and it fits like ... a small. You need to get an XXSmall to get an actual small these days.

so APC IS saying i'm a fat
oh well at least their voluminous dresses fit.

wtf is a voluminous dress

i was using it to mean smock dresses/non-fitted silhouettes

oh i thought they were designed to like give your body more volume =P

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j200/alwaysontime6/littlewhitedress.jpg
^this kind of shape

I really wish dresses cut like that wouldn't invariably look like a potato sack on me. They look so chic and comfy :(

same here. i suspect its a chest size prob.

YES that is clearly why i can wear them
horray for the 1 dress that looks good on the flat of chest

To learn more about vanity sizing, take a tape measure and your favorite jeans and measure the waist and compare to the stated size.

ignorance in this matter is preferred

yeah i don't want to get even more depressed

tho truth is that i do measure my waist. b/c it is for me the best indicator of weight gain reality and when to do something abt it...

p.s. let us pls not start a diiet thread on i love style unless it is a thread abt an all-lobster diet and what restaurants have cute bibs

yes plz no diet threads

Or unless it's the "Popular" diet, in which the lunch kit consists of a carrot stick and a cigarette -- and you vomit up the carrot stick.

Pass the lighter, please.

the thing is, jeans don't sit on my waist. the waist is the narrowest part, by definition, right? even the highest cut jeans go just about to my belly button and then the waist is 2-3 inches above that.

but it still pisses me off that a.p.c. makes only up to a 30 waist (by shasta's math, a 28 to vanity sizers)

i mean that's kind of ridiculous right?

i get 34 in waist & they are down around my hips by around a weeks worth of wears

but that is my STYLE

Yeah, bell, I agree it seems ridic. I've never even tried on APC jeans but I don't think a Levi's 12 is going to translate so well. (I did try Uniqlo once but since I couldn't even fit into their 14 and I think that was their largest size, uh fuck 'em).

lol srsly there's like nothing that's an actual size 30 or size 10 or whatever, it's either vanity sizing or under-sizing or patterned all wrong. so weird. i tend to these days just hold things against my body and guess. sometimes an 8, sometimes a 12 who freakin knows

uniqlo jeans fit so weirdly on me - extremely low-riding, like they only went about 2/3 of the way up my ass.

I don't care about the number (witness my posting my jeans size here), I just think it seems extreme for me not to fit into any of the available sizes. Like, I am not a very big person, all things considered? How can I be too big for your line of clothing? Ditto the 30-inch waist etc.

laurel, aren't uniqlo clothes UK sized? which means a 14 is a US 10...

i think i'm going to take the J brand jeans back, maybe think about tracing them and trying to find a tailor that will make something similar but that fully covers my butt.

I don't know if it's necessarily vanity sizing as just.. resetting the median of the range according to the size of the average customer. this blog has some thoughts on it..

I love you and I am going to read that entire series, just not tonight.

those were my go-to for years before the whole selvedge madness

https://www.paulsmith.com/uk/men-s-slim-fit-11-8oz-super-soft-cross-hatch-indigo-jeans
i can't find exactly the right ones on the website, the ones i like are just paul smith jeans, black patch, made in japan but don't carry the premium price of whatever the japanese denim line is, just under a hundred bucks... but i recommend those

I'm a fan of 511s

Lee also used to have some nice slim fit jeans, at least in the UK

Edwins rule, for me. I just bought a pair of organic cotton slim fit for not much money (I think $A80) on eBay. Dyed, woven, made in Japan too. Their selvedge denim ones, and the "sen" denim (kind of ashy indigo) are great too.

i'm all about 501s these days once i figured out how to wear them. they now make both a skinny and a tapered version which may work better for your legs. they're always on sale so they can be had quite cheap. in fact, i bought two this weekend for $30 each

yea i switched to 501s a couple years ago and now that's all i wear. they are cheap and levis always puts out different washes that I like. the button fly grew on me a lot now I love it