What's up with hating on the Doors?

I almost bought a Doors album tonight cos I wonder if I would like them now - it's been so long. I really really love a lot of 60s American music, though not so much the West Coast psych stuff...but you never know.

U2 suffer from the same problem. Except they don't have a keyboard player.

Most ppl in this thread don't seem to like 'em but it doesn't mean it's a joke.

i do prefer will young's version of "light my fire", because he gets something unlikely out of its chilly self-regard

this is just not true on the first alb. i'm not saying its great but then again how many rock vocalists were really 'accomplished'?

i was thinking of mentioning curtis: an even more limited singer, in a way, but i think the tension — between reach and grasp — works well for the actual material jd recorded

i shall draw a veil of the trig-triangle sentence, since it introduces a NEW and hitherto UNRECOGNISED usage of influence which will merely add to our griefs...

by which I mean that the semantic difficulty seems a personal issue -- Ian McC models his delivery on Morrison's, Morrison influences McC -- the glass is half-empty, the glass is half-full

the ppl an artist influences are the ones who go on to do nothing but listen passively; the ones who go on to do things themselves are the ones s/he NO LONGER influences

1) when I talk about influence I am talking about what an artist does with his/her models -- how he/she puts them into play, NOT describing some situation in which say Ian Curtis flexes his scrawny muscles FROM THE GRAVE

2) when I am describing somebody who has elected to model themselves after another and not done something interesting with it I tend to use the word "damage" and urge others to do likewise and

3) there is a need for more vodka around here, who's with me

I do not hate the Doors.

I do not exactly love them either.

I am not ashamed to say that I once loved them.

Plus: Had the Doors never happened, Kyle MacLachlan would've never been able to play Ray Manzarek in a funny movie like The Doors.

Norman this is heresy...Ned back me up here

I am much more of a Cure fan than an Echo fan, to be sure -- whereas I scrounged Napster and the like for every last Cure rarity I could find, I just let the Echo box set do that for me, see. And I'm much more prone to putting on Faith than Heaven Up Here etc. -- but I fully sympathize with where Norman is coming from. My good friend Karen feels the same way; Echo were one of 'her' bands when growing up in the eighties, though I'd have to ask her to delineate the full reasons why she has said preference (then again, she might find the thread and do that for me!).

Suffice to say that Echo have their own particular brilliance I will not deny. But Bob and company are on a higher plane for me. :-)

I don't know if it's been mentioned much in this (long now!) thread, but it seems to me like a lot of the things people hate about the Doors are painfully similar to all kinds of rock-n-roll romanticism and sexuality and druggy hedonism.

I think Oliver Stone has done more to perpetuate Doors hate than any real Doors detractor ever has. Just thinking about that movie annoys me.

listening to LA woman recently and having fun imaging Ian Curtis singing it … “city at night - city at night!”

Yes

I like the sound of the DCC Compact Classics reissues for the self-titled and L.A. Woman. Tube mastering, and yes, just as they were originally released (no remixes or flying in those additional bits).

But reservations still remain. I can't listen to "The End" all the way through with a straight face. Best cover ever comes at the end of this sketch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqPB1NlM4ew

love it

looool I had never seen that sketch.

I have the vinyl box that came out 15 years ago or whatever, sounds fine to me. It has both stereo and mono versions of the s/t