if there's a better compiler than Bob Stanley out there, I'd sure like to know...

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hey, that is quite the tracklisting for that Jazz Satellites 2 comp...makes me wonder when/if the the Art Ensemble's People In Sorrow will ever get the reissue treatment it deserves...

hank (hank s), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

At least the MONSTER Priester album was reissued last year.

The Garbarek-Coltrane-23 Skidoo-Melle stretch on Jazz Satellites is one of my favorite sequences.

Pamplaxico Polancobon (Andy_K), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

This thread got me curious, so I thought I'd check out "Jazz Satellites"--it's going for $250 at Amazon! Wha? Anyone know if this is available for a less ridiculous price?

Tyler W (tylerw), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Saw it going in the MVE Notting Hill bargain basement for three quid a couple of weeks ago.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Really? ...Can you buy it for me? I'm not going to be able to make the trip to Notting Hill this weekend, as much as I'd like to. I reside in Colorado, you see...

Tyler W (tylerw), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

My favorite compiler is Toru Hashimoto of Cafe Apres Midi / Free Soul / etc fame. The Stanley comps do have a bunch of good stuff on them though.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I second the Cafe Apres Midi compilations - wonderful stuff - Brazilian artists I would never have heard otherwise. I found 8 of the CAM CD's, only to realize that there are at least a dozen more (and I'm stuck in L.A.!)

So Ho La (So Ho La), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone have any theories as to why most of the best compilers are British?

opalescent arcs (Da ve Segal), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link

one might also state that most of the best music writers (of the last 25 years or so) are also British, and that may begin to provide an answer...

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link

..go on.

everything (everything), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 02:29 (seventeen years ago) link

one might also go fuck oneself

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 02:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Billy Miller/Norton Records/Mr. Manicotti etc.

calvin johnson has ruined rock for an entire generation (orion), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 02:56 (seventeen years ago) link

phil smee

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

(is he british? sorry if so)

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Phil Smee is British.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 09:28 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

big list of comps here:
http://www.saintetiennedisco.com/compile.html

Brio, Friday, 8 May 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

that there website is a great source, thanks to whoever is doing it!...hopefully, it will be updated over time...(off the top of my head, I can think of two omissions: The Bobbie Gentry Capitol Years comp and the liner notes for the Jasmine Minks Soul Station Creation comp...I think Stanley/Wiggs also did a Dusty Springfield comp)...

henry s, Friday, 8 May 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, it's actually far from complete. anyone got something better?

Brio, Friday, 8 May 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Yeah, mine arrives tomorrow.

Mark G, Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link

I was just reading someone’s account of going to a birthday party as a kid and one of the parents brought over ‘Tiger Feet’ by Mud and said, ‘You’ve got to play this, nobody has a party without playing the current Number 1!’

Oh, I was actually that kid!

mike t-diva, Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link

Tiger Feet was the Gangnam Style of 1974 I guess.

everything, Sunday, 6 October 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link

and then the Cat crept in.

Mark G, Sunday, 6 October 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link

Got this for my birthday!

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Monday, 7 October 2013 09:18 (ten years ago) link

Happy birthday!

Ismael Klata, Monday, 7 October 2013 09:42 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, yeah. (yeah)

Mark G, Monday, 7 October 2013 09:43 (ten years ago) link

eleven months pass...

only skimmed it so far (it seems like a book that warrants skimming really), but yeah yeah yeah, his history of pop seems interesting, though it seems to have zero interest in recent pop, and its all a bit too much of a flash through pop, never really getting deep into it. inevitable i know, but, it felt like a very post-internet way of writing about music history (should probably sit down with it a bit longer first, its just that after all the amazingly positive reviews, i think i expected something a bit better. the faber book jon savage and hanif kureishi did seems a slightly better approach to what stanley is trying to do, if more skewed towards rock, stanley is more open minded, and more equal in his appreciation of diff genres).

StillAdvance, Sunday, 7 September 2014 07:16 (nine years ago) link

ok, so you have skimmed it, and it seems not to have much depth, right?

Advice: start at page one and read it properly and don't skip chunks, then you should find it more rewarding.

For all that books that attempt to encapsulate the history of pop either tell me little I didn't know, or end up opaque to the point of being impossible to read, this book manages to be entertaining and informative.

Mark G, Sunday, 7 September 2014 11:55 (nine years ago) link

The guy's got a problem with Neil Young, that's for sure.

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 7 September 2014 12:29 (nine years ago) link

i'm just getting into it -- obviously a very british perspective happening here. seems to be hitting its stride in the mid 60s.

tylerw, Sunday, 7 September 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link

i'm about halfway through and enjoying it. he wears his enthusiasms on his sleeve and he's most useful when describing things he really likes. he's funniest when describing things he doesn't. his chapters are skillful encapsulations and like mark g says it acquires depth as the stories accumulate.

note the u.s. edition is trimmed down by more than 100 pages but gains exclamation points in its title. i'm reading the u.k. version.

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 7 September 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link

He's quite pro-Neil Young isn't he (y'know, having covered Only Love Can Break Your Heart and all that)? Patti Smith and Joe Strummer and David Crosby come in for quite a bit of stick if I remember correctly.

Best thing about the book are the little anecdotes he drops in about various artists, plus the chapters where he covers scenes I don't know much about. Any book with such scope is only going to scratch the surface but it's an excellent overview and he does a good job at joining the lines between scenes - like how disco developed for example. And there are always more obscure records in there as well as the obvious stuff.

There's very little attention given to much post-Crazy In Love but you have to draw the line somewhere, even if I don't really agree with his drawing of the end of the Modern Pop era (I'm not sure I agree much with the concept in the first place).

Matt DC, Sunday, 7 September 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link

Oh great, you made me go and get the book. Alright then: "Neil Young [...] had a definitive line in self-pity [...]: 'I went down to the radio interview, found myself at the microphone.' Poor lamb."

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 7 September 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link

The stuff I knew about felt largely like potted music history, which made me suspicious of the rest. He seems to make the same point over and over--when rock and pop parted ways, it was bad. I guess the Abba chapter was good, but again, is any of that new?

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 7 September 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link

Shifting gears back to the particular subject of the thread, his Croydon Municipal label he started last year has been consistently good fun. Emphasis on public domain pop and jazz from the fifties and sixties, various compilations with an emphasis on female singers. He's got a related blog site for it:

http://croydonmunicipal.blogspot.com/

But there's no official site for the label itself as far as I can tell. It's a Cherry Red sublabel and pretty easy to find through their site and other spots.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 7 September 2014 18:15 (nine years ago) link

x-post

Christgau weighs in. I think there's also talk of the book on the ilm good books about music thread.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/review/anti-rockisms-hall-of-fame/

Discussing Bob Stanley's book. From July 2014

curmudgeon, Monday, 8 September 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link

It took me hours just to get through the first chapter of this because I kept having to stop and cross-reference things on YouTube / Wikipedia. Really enjoyable though. I saw him do a talk last year (interviewed by old-ILX's own JtN) and he seemed incredibly charming and humble, and didn't seem too annoyed when the first question from the audience was about what he thought about jazz music.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link

this book is awesome for making spotify playlists. the one i pulled from the pre-beatles english rock and roll chapter is great.

adam, Monday, 8 September 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link

If you search Spotify for Bob Stanley playlists, you'll find the crowdsourced playlists for Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 8 September 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link

Much I love Bob Stanley and his work, I found the book tough going. His style too condensed and telegraphic to comfortably read at length. There's no-one more qualified to summarize the last forty years of Phil Spector's career in a single sentence (and btw he's great at this kind of thing) or the solo careers of the Beatles in a paragraph, but it's just too exhausting to go through page after page of such condensed history.

everything, Monday, 8 September 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link

I read it on the bus for about a month. It works very well in 20-30 minute intervals.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 8 September 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link

Yes, every chapter is like an article in Mojo or whatever. Also it's too personal in terms of what he thinks is important. He is a true music nerd's music nerd and he's a master on historical details, influences, product minutiae, anecdotes, industry movers and shakers, who-did-it-first type claims etc. But to him every single scene is centered around the music. Fashion, economics, class and so on are given short shrift. So it's clear he sees a difference between "skeletal" and "spindly" guitar sounds but for fashion it's not more like "trousers got wider". eg. he sees no significance whatsoever in Dexys' coming out in Brooks Brothers suits (he's amazed it WAS a huge deal at the time), but vast significance in their lyrics. Or he quotes Joe Strummer "like trousers like brain" without attempting to put it in context or explain it.

Not that I think he really understands the Clash anyway - another complaint I have is that his likes and dislikes (particularly his quick disposal of so many US bands) are petty and personal and detract from the overall theme of the book which I think is supposed to be a comprehensive overview of how the history of popular music is currently dissected, pigeonholed and defined. Ultimately I think it tells us a lot of details about stuff that Bob appreciates (which, don't get me wrong, is very broad) but there's not really an overall point to it.

everything, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

FInally got around to reading this, seems pretty fantastic so far. Read through the 80s chapters then went back to start from the beginning. Been buried in it for the past 48 hours, avoiding the Christmas relatives. Wonderful to read through alongside the Spotify playlists -- don't think I've been so engrossed in a music book since Revolution in the Head. There's lots of information here, but it never reads info-dumpy. And even when he gets it wrong (only a third of a page on Madness, dissing Langer & Winstanley), he writes without arrogance or Maconie-esque mateyness.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 28 December 2014 00:45 (nine years ago) link

I got this book for Christmas. Stoked.

Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Sunday, 28 December 2014 08:36 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Finishing "Yeah Yeah Yeah". It reminded me of Nick Cohn more than anything else - this sort of conversational style, with a pinch of "hey others like it tho so I might be wrong!", more like talking to a friend than an attempt at canon building. This is the kind of music criticism I find easiest to take, these days, though it has its limitations.

So is Bob Stanley still doing his compiler work? I would've thought CD compilations (always one of my fav mediums) would've been totally slaughtered by streaming now, but Ace records for example still seems to be chugging along...

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 21 November 2016 10:36 (seven years ago) link

So is Bob Stanley still doing his compiler work?
Yep, his label Croydon Municipal is churning compilations out on a regular basis; the quality is consistently high.

http://croydonmunicipal.com

Jeff W, Monday, 21 November 2016 10:46 (seven years ago) link

hmm, that website hasn't been updated for over a year (RIP websites) but there have been 2016 releases

Jeff W, Monday, 21 November 2016 10:52 (seven years ago) link

i'm about 100 pages in. the bit about The Everly Brothers is incredibly exciting, shaping up to be the best music book i've read since Rip It Up And Start Again.

piscesx, Monday, 21 November 2016 12:14 (seven years ago) link

This one's up to date I think: http://www.cherryred.co.uk/label/croydon-municipal/

Tim, Monday, 21 November 2016 12:18 (seven years ago) link

i liked yeah yeah yeah a lot - it's insanely ambitious but it's a really easy read and it pointed me in the direction of lots of stuff i'd never heard before

not all those who chunder are sloshed (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 21 November 2016 13:19 (seven years ago) link

"Fell From The Sun" is decent though shocked to discover that One Dove's Fallen wasn't as good as I remember (at least in the version on here).

djh, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 20:08 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

Compiling some tracks recently [the ones on the Tarwater thread] and being a bit indecisive on the track-listing, I found myself wondering "What would Bob Stanley do??"

djh, Monday, 12 February 2024 21:51 (two months ago) link

"Fantastic Voyage" is another top tier compilation, lives up to the title!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 00:05 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

Here's the next one: Thom Bell - Didn't I Blow Your Mind? The Sound Of Philadelphia Soul 1969 - 1983

https://acerecords.co.uk/thom-bell-didnt-i-blow-your-mind-the-sound-of-philadelphia-soul-1969-1983

mike t-diva, Thursday, 18 April 2024 13:53 (four hours ago) link

That’s…weird. He already did a Thom Bell comp a few years back! Hell it’s linked on that page. Is this a complementary set?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:10 (three hours ago) link

This is the sequel to “Ready Or Not”, Ace’s first acclaimed compilation of the late Thom Bell’s productions and arrangements.


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