Lily Allen - This summers biggest racist?

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"(3) some woman who isn't the S.O.S. band or Deborah Cox or Shabba Ranks or Rebel Princess doing a fetching reggae version of "Just Be Good To Me,""

I haven't listened to the mix-tape, but perhaps this would be the Beats International version?

If she used the Smith & Mighty Remix of the same I would instantly agree to carry her children.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 05:58 (seventeen years ago) link

it's beats international, but i don't think it's a remix, just the single edit. the odb track is "pop shots." the french tune is vanessa paradis, "joe le taxi" (great song title, damn) which i think means i need to hear more vanessa paradis.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 06:25 (seventeen years ago) link

weirdly i received a mailout from EMI a few weeks back which mentioned Lily (she's on Regal imprint) - saying 'someone you are going to hear a lot more of in the next few months' - to which i glossed over and moved on.

now i find myself downloading the mixtape and wishing i had responded to the email to get a chance on the ultra limited 7".

pah.

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 07:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't. I find the mixtape link not working, that's what I do.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 07:23 (seventeen years ago) link

also - anyone see the Mark Ronson link in her myspace - this style of mixtape has markings of him all over it .. is he involved ?

xpost - mark - weird - i just grabbed it without any problems a few minutes ago ..

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 07:37 (seventeen years ago) link

so... is Ronson her Diplo then?

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 07:41 (seventeen years ago) link

ah ha - tis confirmed in her blog @ myspace ..
"so , I've been working with mark ronson on the album for the last week "
things become more clear ..
have to admit, i am loving this.

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 07:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Without looking, I don't think Ronson's involved in the mixtape. I think they discovered each other fairly recently; he's only just now become one of her Myspace friends, though she did fly to NY so that she could DJ a club night with him (I think she was going to be in the U.S. anyway, he wasn't the only reason for the flight). I like it when people I've heard of show up as people's Myspace friends. Skye Sweetnam got a fellow named "Angry Samoan" early on, and recently got M.I.A.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Beats International would seem right for "Just Be Good to Me" (in fact, I might once have owned that track; I remember a dub version called "Just Be Dub to Me"). Vanessa Paradis once made an LP that I consider a candidate for "Worst Album Ever Made" (it had a Velvets cover - "I'm Waiting for My Man," iirc - which was one of the less moribund tracks), but I've heard good tracks by her since then.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:36 (seventeen years ago) link

She's the Jonah Goldberg of pop.

The Mercury Krueger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I've not heard of Jonah Goldberg; he would be the Lily Allen of what?

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

ah so she's this year's MIA! I am interested in hearing her again.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link

She needs to dress a lot more poorly to catch up to MIA.

The Mercury Krueger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 13:04 (seventeen years ago) link

she was a guest on mark ronson's radio show on east village radio a couple of weeks ago. doesn't appear to be available as on demand download/listen anymore though. playlist here.

i think she's great...

(jg) ((jg)), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Tim: I would instantly agree to carry her children.

more than a few of us are going to feel like we've found a soulmate. dawning realisation over the past week: she is THAT good

Janet Kay, Ragga Twins, Ian Dury, Lily Allen...

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

finally suss'd she reminds me of Polystyrene

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

frank, the beats intl track is actually called "dub be good to me" (norman cook, so clever). i love that tune, have a cassingle of it somewhere. and yeah i'd never been too interested in v.paradis, but then i'd never heard any of her early french stuff either.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

at least one of the grimish things is More Fire Crew - Oi! I think the junglish track at the end is this http://www.discogs.com/release/157316 but I might be wrong (don't have the mix to hand right now) and it could be that bloke who caused a lot of fuss with that other hiccupy "in-in-credible" pop/jungle tune when it all kicked off (by claiming he invented the whole genre hehe).

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

On a "Just be Good to Me" tip, be sure to keep an ear out for this record, which is one of the worst I've ever heard:

"Just Be Good To Me" by Karmah
Release: 10 July (tbc)
We've been wanting to feature this all year and were delighted to hear that dance music's man of the moment Matt Jagger will release it in the UK on the Europa label. The elements are the Police Every Breath You Take guitarline, a rap that is just the right side of cheesy, and the Beats International chorus. Does it work? We think so - and it's an engrossing listen finding out. It's an Italian production from 1997 that did very little back then but its time has come. We heard about it when it start to hog the upper reaches of Shazam's German chart. It went on to spend three weeks at #5 on the German singles chart and it should be a pan- European smash.

My mum in Feb 1988 when Vanessa Paradis was on Top of the Pops for "Joe le Taxi" (No.3 in the UK): "I bet it's just paedophiles buying this record."

("Dub Be God To Me" was No.1 in the UK in Feb 1990.)

Bloke who caused a lot of fuss = M-Beat featuring General Levy "Incredible"

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

My mum in Feb 1988 when Vanessa Paradis was on Top of the Pops for "Joe le Taxi" (No.3 in the UK): "I bet it's just paedophiles buying this record."

haha, tell it to france gall.

("Dub Be God To Me" was No.1 in the UK in Feb 1990.)

yeah that came out during one of my u.k. sojourns. late '89 was a good time for the pop charts there.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Finally got a chance to listen to some of her songs outside of that mixtape and I'm even more sure I like this a lot.

Her phrasing generally is spot on isn't it? She seems to know how to lift the lyrics into sounding really natural & spontaneous, comfortable even. Lily swings, which is actually pretty refreshing compared with a lot of ILM canon blitzkreig pop which tries like buggery to impress you into sensual submission yet ends up simply uptight for all the effort.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 4 May 2006 08:19 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost - thanks Raw Patrick

so... is the NME going to jump on the Lily bandwagon?

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 4 May 2006 08:45 (seventeen years ago) link

she is KEITH ALLEN'S DAUGHTER.
:(

-- You'll Never Put a Better Bit of Butter On Your Knife (dadaismu...), May 2nd, 2006.

this is the bottom line, people.

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Thursday, 4 May 2006 08:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah but he's got loads of kids, hasn't he?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 4 May 2006 09:08 (seventeen years ago) link

none of us are in with a chance... so what difference does it make? :'(

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 4 May 2006 09:10 (seventeen years ago) link

watching the video now - not sure about this actually.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 4 May 2006 09:51 (seventeen years ago) link

We have yet to see how she feels about being sprog of Keith, but she does love her nan.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 4 May 2006 10:21 (seventeen years ago) link

has anyone got that video in another format? I can't seem to get it to stream (yo Lily marketing dept - youtube?)

I like this but I'm still kinda sceptical about the mega-hype brewing for her... does she have any ballads incidentally? I'm not sure how much, if anything, of an emotional connection I'm getting from her music so far.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 4 May 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Lily Allen Playground

JW (ex machina), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I was a little surprised about the video, too, considering that LDN is by far her best song. You'd think they'd spend the big bucks on it.

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

The album is called "Alright, Still" according to this here Google sponsored link....

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Cheers Mark Ronson!

SF: You've worked with Mark Ronson on his album, and on your album. His Radiohead cover is hot, but your collaboration on a version of Kaiser Chiefs' "Oh My God" is just jaw-dropping!

SF: Did he pick the track and you to sing it, or did you have some say in it?

LA: I actually picked " no one knows " QOTSA , but he made me do " oh my god " as he thought my voice was better suited to it .

>:(

This can only end in tears...

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

does she have any ballads incidentally? I'm not sure how much, if anything, of an emotional connection I'm getting from her music so far.

I've just got back from seeing her live. It was great. More report tomorrow as long as I can skive at work long enough. One of the reasons I was into her is that "Smile" hit me emotionally like no other song this year.

I'm fucking covered in sweat right now. Yuck.

("No One Knows" would be much better than "I Predict a Riot". I feel RONSON is the only thing that can fuck this up for her.)

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 4 May 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I fear this is the target Lady Sovereign has been spectacularly failing to hit for the last year.

Yes, Lily could well prove to be the Pat Boone to Lady Sov's Little Richard, although I quite like "LDN".

John Hunter, Thursday, 4 May 2006 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

It is very near the mark. Her A&R is the same guy who found Ms Dynamite.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 5 May 2006 00:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Am I the only one reminded of Nellie McKay?

Matt LC (flightsatdusk), Friday, 5 May 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm loving Lily! "LDN" is one of the standout singles of the year so far.

Tape Store (Tape Store), Friday, 5 May 2006 01:13 (seventeen years ago) link

#8 is selectah "wede man" on hoody records (1993)

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Friday, 5 May 2006 02:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i never want to hear this music

strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 May 2006 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i mean, the artist is name selectah

the jungle track at the end is origin unknown's "valley of the shadows (31 seconds)", omni trio VIP remix, right?

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Friday, 5 May 2006 02:29 (seventeen years ago) link

dude the mix is GREAT! the only thing that lets it down is jammer's "go dj" (#15)

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Friday, 5 May 2006 02:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i think i hate england

strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 May 2006 02:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Try not to hate… keith allen’s daughter or not, she can write some sweet lyrics. Anyway, those missing mixtape tunes are 9 is ‘She taught me to yodel’ by Peter Barry, the junglist tunes at the end are ‘Incredible’ by General Levy, not UK Apache and that ‘31 seconds’ tune is called Valley of the Shadows by Origin Unknown from about 1993 (I think) – like someone else said, the mixing is a bit rough but the tune selection is spot on, reminds me of my own tapes :)

runforcover, Friday, 5 May 2006 03:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i think she's adorable and her music is light & fun like most good pop(and I was totally not sold on MIA or Lady Sov, or Nellie McKay either)

timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 5 May 2006 05:09 (seventeen years ago) link

LDN is the happiest song about pimps and crack whores and old ladies being mugged ever.

StanM (StanM), Friday, 5 May 2006 05:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I lean towards Jess's take for now. It's a case where reading about people's reactions to it probably says more than hearing the music itself.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 May 2006 05:43 (seventeen years ago) link

the mixtape is good, though! "piracy is terrorism" = still great, right?

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Friday, 5 May 2006 05:49 (seventeen years ago) link

for rough orientation, think nelly furtado.

(not an insult in my book.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 5 May 2006 05:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Lily vs. M.I.A. is a troubling decision.

reasonably familiar, safe, bourgoise, appealing, genuine knack for vocals

or

"new" sounding, abrasive/exciting/radical popette, charmless, vocally annoying, little ability to own her tunes

It feels about as hip to choose the former as it did admitting that a lot of that Arctic Monkeys album was actually decent :/

fandango (fandango), Friday, 5 May 2006 06:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Lily vs. M.I.A. is a troubling decision.

reasonably familiar, safe, bourgoise, appealing, genuine knack for vocals

or

"new" sounding, abrasive/exciting/radical popette, charmless, vocally annoying, little ability to own her tunes

And which is who again?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 May 2006 06:05 (seventeen years ago) link

She’s always seemed super obnoxious in every interview I’ve seen of her.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 February 2022 07:55 (two years ago) link

Wait, what’s the context on this thread title?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 February 2022 08:07 (two years ago) link

it was changed over the years when she said something racist I guess. Originally "biggest hit" iirc

StanM, Friday, 18 February 2022 08:09 (two years ago) link

Cruel to revive this in February imo.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 18 February 2022 10:35 (two years ago) link

which list? why February? wth is going on? lol

StanM, Friday, 18 February 2022 10:58 (two years ago) link

Hmm, it took years for the Morrissey thread to get renamed, whereas this one was as swiftasyerlike.

Mark G, Friday, 18 February 2022 11:02 (two years ago) link


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