Bonny Tyler's Total Eclipse Of The Heart: classic or dud?

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Is anyone going to stand up for 'Keep On Loving You'?

H., Monday, 27 October 2003 16:08 (twenty years ago) link

Don't know it!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:09 (twenty years ago) link

And I meant, every word I said
When I said that I love you, I meant that I'd love you forever
And I'm gonna keep on loving you
Cause it's the only thing I wanna do
I don't wanna sleep
I just wanna keep on loving you

strangest punctuation ever: they put a comma in the pause in the firt line, but then fail to put one after 'keep' in the last.

Another vote for TEOTH being stone cold classic.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

i can't remember when i last heard TEOTH and i don't intend to listen to it now or in the near future either.

stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:16 (twenty years ago) link

I can remember when you last hear it Stevem.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link

But I wonder how many people who've posted on this thread actually own a recording of TEOTH or have have given it a spin any time in the last 15 years.

A friend of mine gave me the disc, Faster than the Speed of Night as a housewarming present in 1996. It gets an annual airing at least.

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd800/d809/d80967c3i9w.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link

Agree about Toto, from a certain angle can see the point of Asia, but never got into the Speedwagon.

Now, "Wishing You Were Here" by Chicago...

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 27 October 2003 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

not so into "keep on loving you," but i have a secret gushy love for "i can't fight this feeling anymore."

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:21 (twenty years ago) link

for some reason I always got this confused with 'There's Something Going On' by Frida. Maybe it was the huge production job.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:22 (twenty years ago) link

The Beta Band sampled this once, and it was all very snide: like hurhur, the pop pap, you see, we've chained it to a bass sludge and done some 'singing' on it and now NME readers can dig it.

Bollocks to that and bollocks to anyone who like TEOTH and *not* 'Beautiful'.

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

This was the first video I ever saw, and have loved the song ever since.

Jonathan (Jonathan), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

I think the Beta Band genuinely loved Total Eclipse Of The Heart, as all right-thinking people do, surely?

I am anticipating a ludicrous powerballad for The Darkness Christmas single.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:25 (twenty years ago) link

Re: "Keep On Loving You" -- funny this one should come up. I was a high school kid in '82 - '83, when REO Speedwagon and Journey ruled the earth. I actively detested both bands -- the merest syllable from Kevin Cronin or Steve Perry would cause me to sprain my wrist changing the radio station, and the inescapability of both bands meant my wrists were pretty damned sore all the time. (That, and the fact that I was a teenaged boy...)

I recently gained an appreciation for "Keep On Loving You" based on its appearance in, of all things, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, where (if memory serves) it's in rotation on the "Emotion FM" station. I'd never really listened to it in detail before, and it struck me how weird, airless, and alien the production is. Sonically, its as synthetic as anything Kraftwerk ever released: it's got this total untouched-by-human-hands vibe. The vocals and guitars have been run through a million different delays, harmonizers, and compressers, until everything becomes this huge, reverbing whooooosh. Of course there's zero low-end (perfect for AM radio.) In short, it's a work of genius. I still hate the fuck out of Journey, though.

d.w., Monday, 27 October 2003 16:27 (twenty years ago) link

I think they'll go more for a Slade effect.

A good way to work out how TEOTH is great is to listen to it next to Jennifer Rush's "The Power Of Love".

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:27 (twenty years ago) link

FUCK! "I Know There's Something Going On" by Frida! More evidence for Phil Collins' occasional greatness.

Oh, Enrique, the Beta Band were not being sardonic or ironic in appropriating the TEOTH quote, and Steinman himself approved it. And "Beautiful" is a stinking assortment of Clinton Card cliches sung nasally by a pretend anorexic, so bollocks to you too, sir.

(so much for the Oxford FAP then!)

Re. J Rush "Power Of Love"; influenced very clearly by Ultravox's "Vienna" which itself was influenced very clearly by Scott Walker's "The Electrician." Is there a theory here somewhere about the gradual dilution of "difficult" music before people will buy it?

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 27 October 2003 16:30 (twenty years ago) link

Do we all agree that Tom has to download REO Speedwagon's "Keep on Loving You" right now?

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:30 (twenty years ago) link

destroy.

x-post: sorry for not being a 'right-thinking person'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:30 (twenty years ago) link

I don't much like "total eclipse of the heart", I'm afraid. "keep on lovin' you" is great, but this whole genre is owned for me by asia's "sole survivor" and boston's "more than a feeling". The best bit in the latter is where the singer (brad delpy?) hits this impossibly high not, holds it for a seemingly impossible length of time, then goes even higher!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:30 (twenty years ago) link

Do we all agree that Tom has to download REO Speedwagon's "Keep on Loving You" right now?

yes!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:31 (twenty years ago) link

Oi! "Baby Come Back" by Player! "Harden My Heart" by Quarterflash!

and we all know about the More Than A Feeling/Smells Like Teen Spirit interface (via Debaser?).

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 27 October 2003 16:34 (twenty years ago) link

>I think they'll go more for a Slade effect
'My Oh My' was a KILLER power ballad and trumps the lot.

I have to say I re-discovered 'Keep On Loving You' by REO Speedwagon when Mark Kozelek & his merry Red House Painters covered it. Like all his covers, it is twisted and lovely.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:34 (twenty years ago) link

Journey completely wins these stakes, BTW.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, Enrique, the Beta Band were not being sardonic or ironic in appropriating the TEOTH quote, and Steinman himself approved it. And "Beautiful" is a stinking assortment of Clinton Card cliches sung nasally by a pretend anorexic, so bollocks to you too, sir.

(so much for the Oxford FAP then!)

Ow, fuck, yeah probably, then -- NME readers I knew (=me) didn't know that. I still think their versh stinks; as for Xtina, oh come now we can't be slagging power ballads for their lyrical infelicities! + I know nothing of singing technique, so point conceded, but I quite like the idea of being a 'pretend anorexic' -- wearing baggy clothes in a kind of double-bluff, that's quite good.

I'm a miss the FAP anyway cos I'm in the big smoke watching some old new bollox about the red brigade and/or robbing all yourn houses. Might send a ringer.

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

the bassline from "carry on wayward son" which is better than almost any other record ever made, fits really well under the guitar choirds from "smells like teen spirit".

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:36 (twenty years ago) link

Snarling hate for "Beautiful" is evidence that your ears are wonky.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:37 (twenty years ago) link

Soulseek is oddly reluctant to give me a copy of Keep On Loving You.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:37 (twenty years ago) link

Dan: Well said!

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:38 (twenty years ago) link

Journey completely wins these stakes, BTW.

Quite right. Listening to "Any Way You Want It" on my iPod recently gave me the sudden realization that said song trumps (in retrospect) both the Electric Six and Andrew WK at their own game, all at once.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:38 (twenty years ago) link

Soulseek is oddly reluctant to give me a copy of Keep On Loving You.

Soulseek must have a conscience after all, electing to spare you from the sonic blight that is the Speedwagon's excretion.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:39 (twenty years ago) link

hurrah for my unrepentantly wonky ears!

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 27 October 2003 16:41 (twenty years ago) link

heh heh heh heh heh heh heh

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:42 (twenty years ago) link

hey - even though its a bit old now, i think the last grand larger than life ballad like this that truly rocked was surely ms. braxton's UNBREAK MY HEART

Vic (Vic), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:46 (twenty years ago) link

i couldn't give you any evidence beyond, uh, Creed, but the Powar Ballad is alive and well in nu-metal surely? though it seems de-sexed; it's all vague homo-social 'struggle' rather than Love. 'beautiful' is like this too, i guess.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

I got the magnificent 'Keep On Loving You' on a free 'ROCK' CD given away w/ the Evening Standard last week. The CD also had 'More Than A Feeling' by Boston on it, another winner.

Didn't Bryan Adams spending 16 weeks at no. 1 help to (temporarily?) kill off the power-ballad?

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:02 (twenty years ago) link

How long ago did Don't Wanna Miss A Thing by Aerosmith come out?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:09 (twenty years ago) link

Can I reiterate that That particular Aerosmith song makes me want to go all Michael Myers on humanity?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:09 (twenty years ago) link

Dan's ears are right on the money. Pas de wonky. He sees why 'Beautiful'>>>>>>>'Don't Want to Miss A Thing'.

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:11 (twenty years ago) link

'Don't Want To Miss A Thing' not helped by awful 'Bruce Willis vs the comet' affiliation

stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

Stevem, you said "awful" when I think you meant "excruciatingly, nut-twistingly horrendous in a manner that will scar children and the elderly alike".

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:15 (twenty years ago) link

i couldn't give you any evidence beyond, uh, Creed, but the Powar Ballad is alive and well in nu-metal surely?

that reminds me.....EYES WIDE OPEN *ducks*

Michael B, Monday, 27 October 2003 17:19 (twenty years ago) link

I dunno why every American here starts foaming at the moment once someones mention Creed (ok i have an idea why, the rest of their stuff is shitty)...it's a great song

Michael B, Monday, 27 October 2003 17:21 (twenty years ago) link

It's because Scott Stapp is a gigantic cockfarmer and his band is deeply, deeply mediocre at best.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:23 (twenty years ago) link

How long does it take for TEOTH to repeat? 1:30? 2:00? I love songs like that. Anyway, excellent song that is probably hard to screw up.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:23 (twenty years ago) link

are none of you feelin' ms braxton ? wtf

Vic (Vic), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:24 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, any love for Ms. Tyler's "Holding Out for a Hero"? Same urgency but with the weirdest drum solo ever!

Vinnie (vprabhu), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:25 (twenty years ago) link

I need to download "Holding Out.." - oddly enough I loved that one when I was 10 despite hating Eclipse.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:29 (twenty years ago) link

me too!

stevem (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:31 (twenty years ago) link

sweet jesus, is that song good. it's on the footloose soundtrack. i wore out like three copies of it when i was little.

"where have all the good men gone and where are all the gods/where's the streetwise hercules to fight the rising odds"

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:35 (twenty years ago) link

I think my feelings on Toni Braxton are abundantly clear (ie TONI I LUV U COME SNUGGLE WITH ME).

"Unbreak My Heart" was one of the best singles of its year.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:36 (twenty years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsgWUq0fdKk

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

When I was in high school a dance troupe came through to perform for the entire school. The lead dancer gracefully danced until one by one, her skills faltered as she shared a dance with different partners. Each partner was dressed completely in black and had a different word written on their back. ALCOHOL. MARIJUANA. COCAINE. HEROIN.

She eventually fell to the ground, at which point the blacked-out dancers lifted her up and placed in a Jesus Christ crucifix pose to the audience.

This entire performance was done to “Total Eclipse of the Heart.”

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

Wish I'd been there!

bendy, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

lol, that's amazing.

peace, man, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

xxp this isn't the one i witnessed but holy moly they were doing this bit in front of 5 year olds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoRL-xzdlVI

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 17 November 2022 05:43 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl5PLKr-Zcc

Josefa, Thursday, 17 November 2022 06:06 (one year ago) link


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