recommend me some lost shoegaze classics

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I don't think I'd call Levitation shoegazers.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 16:55 (twenty years ago) link

Codeine's "Barely Real" is king of shoegazery, and pretty good. Or is it slowcore? Or sadcore? Or spacerock? Oh, whatever....

adaml (adaml), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 16:56 (twenty years ago) link

"king of shoegazery"=kind of shoegazery

adaml (adaml), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 16:57 (twenty years ago) link

I gotta represent SouthEastern Michigan here - there was somewhat of a shoegazer revival/resurgence here in the late 90's - it has died down for the most part but definitely had its moments.

Two of the bigger local labels were Mind Expansion Records & Burnt Hair Records- some of the local acts included Fuxa, Windy & Carl (who run a nice indie record shop in Dearborn - Stormy Records), Miss Bliss, Tomorrowland (more ambient/idm, but in the same local scene), His Name is Alive, Auburn Lull, & Transient Waves (outta Philly but w/ ties to the Michigan scene).

Other related stuff was coming out around the US as well from the likes of Darla Records & Kranky Records, and groups like Hopewell (members of Mercury Rev), Jessamine, Bowery Electric, etc, etc..

pete from the street, Wednesday, 8 October 2003 17:26 (twenty years ago) link

>Toulouse's The Way The City Stretches is a bona-fide classic, even if >it missed the shoegaze movement by a good 5 years. "Know Better" is >stunning and always gets included on my shoegaze comps.

bona-fide classic, absolutely! i never tire of this wonderful record, which recreates dreamlike strolls in rainy cities like few others have done. their later garage-mod output is...interesting, but i never listen to it much. are half-string or curtain society anything like toulouse?

chomicat, Wednesday, 8 October 2003 17:55 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think I'd call Levitation shoegazers.

I wouldn't have automatically thought of Levitation as shoegazers either, but someone else did upthread (I wouldn't describe them as also-rans either).

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 17:59 (twenty years ago) link

the glass bead game is rubbish, but the smashing orange stuff from before that is great. the other sweet jesus songs were as good as phonefreak honey also, search everything by them

charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:01 (twenty years ago) link

I love Fuxa! the latest album in particular. I even liked the one before that that everyone hated.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:26 (twenty years ago) link

codeine <> shoegazer

i'd call them "indie-rock" but those more genre-centric may refer to them as "slow-core".

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:37 (twenty years ago) link

see also the Ropers, from Washington DC.

still extant bands out here:
Color Wall, from LA
The Jealous Type, from Ann Arbor, MI
The Flashing Astonishers, from i ferget where

oh yeah, and the Dykehouse album, when it finally comes out.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:41 (twenty years ago) link

We totally love looking at our shoes.

The comp that comes with the new issue is really really good.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:41 (twenty years ago) link

Also, somebody in this bitch should give love to Paik.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

I randomly came across The Meeting Places the other day and thought they were pretty keen (and also have an ex-Alison's Halo/Amnesia guy on guitar).

Other Medicine-influenced California-based shoegazers of note: The Lassie Foundation.

Nick Mirov (nick), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 19:39 (twenty years ago) link

Speaking of California, Check out Tristeza and The Album Leaf.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

electro-group too. are they still together?

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:33 (twenty years ago) link

also, most of the Ochre records catalog! Land of Nod, CA, the new Mellow Drunk record (w/the drummer from the Rosemarys and rick who was in spectrum for a bit.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

Worth a listen is "Shine" by Bailter Space, which was a b-side to the dull "The Aim".

Conor (Conor), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

Pale Saints' "In Ribbons" is great in places.

Apart from them, burn the rest except MBV obviously.

Keith Watson (kmw), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

lovesliescrushing - Bloweyelashwish

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 8 October 2003 21:54 (twenty years ago) link

electro group just released a 7" on (ta da!) Clairecords so i think they're still around.

mention of IPR is OTM - an amazing label. everything i buy on that label is a gem of shoegazing or Factory/4AD influenced wonderment.

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 9 October 2003 00:01 (twenty years ago) link

the Ropers album on Slumberland is not only a shoegaze classic but one of my top ten records of all time. i'd listen to it before everything else on this thread.

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 9 October 2003 00:02 (twenty years ago) link

"Morningrise" single by Slowdive. Was better than anything on their first album.

Neil FC (Neil FC), Thursday, 9 October 2003 00:28 (twenty years ago) link

Gaslight Radio - Hitch On The Leaves

One of my all-time favourites.

Sarah Pedal (call mr. lee), Thursday, 9 October 2003 00:51 (twenty years ago) link

supercar - "storywriter"

fernando, Thursday, 9 October 2003 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

Catherine Wheel - "Ferment" & "Chrome"

steve, Thursday, 9 October 2003 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

gaslight radio shoegaze? surely shome mishtake? (namedrop: i used to be in a band with their keyboard player)

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 9 October 2003 01:13 (twenty years ago) link

i've seen them loosely defined as such, and i can see why. they don't fit a strict definition, though.

Sarah Pedal (call mr. lee), Thursday, 9 October 2003 01:14 (twenty years ago) link

the best lost shoegaze band from detroit was Spectacle, their mini-cd 'developing in a world without sound' was sorta like a cross between slowdive and pale saints. then their manager took their name and moved to LA and made a terrible record, or something like that.

keith (keithmcl), Thursday, 9 October 2003 02:54 (twenty years ago) link

Gaslight Radio! Man, I thought only Chris Barrus and I knew about them, at least on here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 October 2003 03:51 (twenty years ago) link

i always felt they were horrifically overrated but i was pleasantly surprised when i heard their album

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 9 October 2003 03:52 (twenty years ago) link

These bands always struck me as "post-shoegaze" or dream pop:

Mogwai
GYBE!
(some) Mercury Rev
Sigur Ros

turkey (turkey), Thursday, 9 October 2003 06:54 (twenty years ago) link

And STILL nobody has mentioned Whipping Boy, who made two early shoegazing classic EPs - because shoegazing was an EP kind of genre - and a ropey LP and then disappeared for a few years to come back even better but not shoegazey. So, search out the two EPs on Cheree which are great stuff.

Do Lorelei count too? Their early singles were pretty shoegazey. And the Moon Seven Times?

Rob M (Rob M), Thursday, 9 October 2003 07:06 (twenty years ago) link

are half-string or curtain society anything like toulouse?

Half-String have the right tone but not as many hooks and the singer is slightly more mopey. Curtain Society have the hooks but are more crisp than Toulouse. I definitely recommend Half-String's A Fascination With Heights.

And everyone who praised the Ropers as one of the best groups of all time is unequivocably correct. Don't forget the early singles, handily compiled on the s/t ep. Does anyone here have the Boyracer/Ropers tour split 7" ... I've been dying to hear that song for years.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Thursday, 9 October 2003 20:49 (twenty years ago) link

And STILL nobody has mentioned Whipping Boy

I have the Whipping Boy album (Heartworm) and consider When We Were Young as one of the great lost singles of all time, but in no way on this earth would I ever have thought of them as shoegazers.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 October 2003 21:26 (twenty years ago) link

Does anyone here have the Boyracer/Ropers tour split 7" ... I've been dying to hear that song for years.

i have that, somewhere in the deep recesses of my vinyl stacks. i'll have a look for it. it's a nice track..

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 9 October 2003 22:59 (twenty years ago) link

Always thought Whipping Boy were more aligned to the Catherine Wheel/Puressence 'we're secretly influenced by the Chameleons and the Sound and all that but I suppose we should have snorted more cocaine like Interpol and then we'd be famous or something' school.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 October 2003 23:37 (twenty years ago) link

they did get that way with the second album, yes

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 9 October 2003 23:55 (twenty years ago) link

first puressence album > second whipping boy album > second puressence album > first whipping boy album >>>>>>> catherine wheel

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 9 October 2003 23:55 (twenty years ago) link

the nightblooms

bob snoom, Thursday, 16 October 2003 11:22 (twenty years ago) link

aurevoir borealis is a beautiful newish, shoegazer-y band from detroit who released a lovely six song ep on windy and carl's label, friends of the czars even. of course the czars aren't shoegazers so nevermind that.

keith (keithmcl), Thursday, 16 October 2003 23:27 (twenty years ago) link


some great stuff above. seems like there's some stuff here and there that's not so shoegazerish... or at least it's not what shoegazer meant 10 years ago.

reminds me... guitar "sunkissed" by morr... what if the sneaker pimps did a shoegaze record?
m.

msp, Friday, 17 October 2003 02:05 (twenty years ago) link

Shoegazer fans may like the, er, "mix-cd" from the Martini Bros (billed as "DJ Cle & Mike Vamp") called Cruising - large amounts of it mine a sort of shoegazer/krautrock/electro intersection, with their own track "Happiness" sounding like one of the longer tracks from Kitchens of Distinction's "Death Of Cool".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 17 October 2003 12:46 (twenty years ago) link

Some guy in the local alterna-weekly called Low shoegazer recently. That might be a good description, but they don't really fall under that genre's guidelines.

boldbury, Friday, 17 October 2003 14:32 (twenty years ago) link

And while, Bedhead isn't really labeled as 'shoegazer', I think there is definitely some shoegazer-type stuff on their WhatFunLifeWas, like "Haywire" and "Living Well", in particular.

boldbury, Friday, 17 October 2003 14:38 (twenty years ago) link

the marine time keepers are another amazing slowdive ripoff band, they probably rank with malory as the two best at copping that sound.

keith (keithmcl), Friday, 17 October 2003 23:32 (twenty years ago) link

Monaural's Rhodes 12" was far and away the best of the SE Michigan shoe/space continuum for me.

Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 17 October 2003 23:45 (twenty years ago) link

What about Swervedriver - Raise? its not a "lost" classic, but it is a classic.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 18 October 2003 00:39 (twenty years ago) link

Did somebody mention fuexa?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Sunday, 19 October 2003 23:07 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I can't believe everyone has left out the rest of the Pale Saints' album. Much of their work was as 'gazey as 'In Ribbons', if not moreso. Azailia Snail, while lo-fi, has a definite shoegaze lean. Also, Lorenzo's Tractor often heads off into shoegaze/dreampop territory. Somebody once called them a shoegothjamband or something like that.

Finelrond Brightblade, Saturday, 8 November 2003 22:40 (twenty years ago) link

but the pale saints weren't lost and also the pale saints are hurt by the last ian-less album which almost made me cry as it was so awful. strangely, though, meriel barham is pretty good on her own as kuchen.

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 9 November 2003 03:18 (twenty years ago) link

On the Secret Shine tip, I've been really loving Dreamscape this week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zNabzf8POw

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Saturday, 4 February 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link

Truly a very lost classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0cffRUsuxg

Evan, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 12:44 (one year ago) link

I don't think Polar made anything quite as good as Con Dolore's This Sad Movie (I still consider both Polar albums very great) but this is one of my favorite Polar songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEYL28yFgtE

I could swear the singer had another band going after with tracks on Myspace, she was fantastic

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 February 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

The new Pencey Sloe album strikes me as a future lost shoegaze classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLv0P5dKClA

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Monday, 13 February 2023 02:14 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Okay so wayyyyy back on this thread a few of us were talking about Australia's Gaslight Radio, who had shoegaze in their makeup if not totally that. They've recently put up a best of on Spotify and a slightly older one on Bandcamp -- worth checking out:

https://gaslightradio.bandcamp.com/album/best-of-gaslight-radio-1996-2006

https://open.spotify.com/album/13LPSQCsi5BNXoCQhMFASl

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 February 2023 03:31 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

Difference Engine quietly released their shelved 1994 album Flex Lavender on streaming services last year, with no accompanying info and no mention of a forthcoming physical release 🤔. it's less Disco Inferno and more Stereolab (at least on the Margie-sung tracks) than Breadmaker) and veers into trip-hop-gaze on the last track. imo the first six tracks + the intro of 'Sky Hutch' would have made for one of the best EPs of the era. it gets a little more pedestrian after that but it's solid enough throughout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osSfzmpyEoI

hogarth brooks (unregistered), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 02:38 (two months ago) link


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