No Other - Gene Clark

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as I recollect, the gist of the Presence review was:

car crash - everyone's in DEEP PAIN for one reason or another - you can hear it in the music, maaan

(writer = mat snow? or matt black, summat like that.)

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 14 August 2003 16:38 (twenty years ago) link

It's clear now you made the right decision David - I bet it's loads harder to pick up a Zigzag magazine T-shirt nowadays... The re-issue of the Byrds' Untitled has Unissued(?) coupled with it and there are some absolutely amazing geetars (fret-wizardry) on "This Wheel's on Fire".

Keith Watson (kmw), Thursday, 14 August 2003 16:43 (twenty years ago) link

Perhaps I should have got that instead. I haven't got Byrdmaniacs or Farther Along either. I need to get in touch with my inner hairiness.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 14 August 2003 16:46 (twenty years ago) link

Peter: Butch Trucks is the real name of a real drummer.

Keith: 'Brothers & Sisters' is pooh because both Duane & Berry had died in road accidents by then, thus robbing the band of the majority of its talent. (Sadly I never got to see them until this period.) I would go for 1971's 'Live At The Fillmore East' of which I have 3 versions, 1992's CD issue 'The Fillmore Concerts' collecting up tracks issued on other albums to clock in a few seconds short of a mighty 2 and a quarter hours of twin howling Les Paul/twin drummer bliss. The tones Duane extracts from his guitar during the nearly 34 minutes jam (OK, there's a lot of bollocks drum solo) on Donovan's 'There Is A Mountain' are sublime.

Mooro (Mooro), Thursday, 14 August 2003 17:11 (twenty years ago) link

That one always seemed to me to be the most puzzling inclusion. Was there ever a time when that record was not-in-the-canon/underrated/unknown* ?

Well for me it was one of the first record's I got where I learned to stop being an uptight jerk and love the 80's (again)

Michael B, Thursday, 14 August 2003 17:24 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe it was the MM hoping that none of their readers had being reading the NME in the early 80s.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 14 August 2003 17:29 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, 'No Other' is sort of the least typical, most-coked out alb in the Gene Clark discog (unless you count that Byrds 'reunion' alb from roundabout the same time) but I find that Gene's wonderful singing voice is always a gd emotional anchor amidst all the production overload. Byron Coley wrote recently that the photo of Gene on the 'No Other' sleeve makes him look like a spoon and condom roadie for Mott the Hoople, made me laugh

There's a terrific midprice A+M CD that collects the two Dillard and Clark albs on one CD - the first D+C rec, 'Fantastic Expedition', is in particular a v. superfine country-rock rec, and contains my single fave Gene Clark song, "Why Not Your Baby", a stone classic

Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 14 August 2003 23:13 (twenty years ago) link

Butch Trucks married Nancy Lorries, apparently.

No Other did improve a bit on second listen.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 15 August 2003 08:30 (twenty years ago) link

Butch and Nancy's child was Randy Vanwarmer presumably

Tim (Tim), Friday, 15 August 2003 08:33 (twenty years ago) link

Butch Trucks vs 'Van' Morrison

dave q, Friday, 15 August 2003 08:47 (twenty years ago) link

the SOFT BOYS!!??

that's the dealbreaker right there

mark s (mark s), Friday, 15 August 2003 08:54 (twenty years ago) link

alright, I won't get that one then (until Dr.C persuades me to all over again)

zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 15 August 2003 10:55 (twenty years ago) link

Nick -- I got suckered into buying Something/Anything too... there's a few good tracks on it. A few. Speaking of MM memorablia, I was never without that huge "A-Z of Grunge" wallposter. I think E. True (or someone) described the Replacements "All Shook Down" as a "grunge On the Beach", and in one stroke pointed me to my fave ever two albums. So ta.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Thursday, 21 August 2003 18:53 (twenty years ago) link

Gene Clark is nothing like the Soft Boys, for gds sake

Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Just hearing this today for the first time, very nice. So much heavier and deeper than I expected, especially the title track.

57 7th (calstars), Monday, 22 November 2004 00:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Great Clark essay in the Unknown Pleasures book except....it makes you think the album only has 6 tracks. Lady of the North (Chariots of Fire bit and Gene whispering "Flying high above the clouds..."
and all) is quite clearly the best track and it doesn't mention it.

Apparently Gene did enough songs for a 2-lp set. Have they been wiped??

Bumfluff, Monday, 22 November 2004 00:36 (nineteen years ago) link

i heart this album

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 22 November 2004 00:53 (nineteen years ago) link

eye heart this album 2. I was even thinking about starting a thread called "What lost classic album knocked you out recently?" with this one as the kick-off.

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 22 November 2004 01:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Or should I say
I ♥ this album 2?
After all
I ♥ ♫

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Apparently Gene did enough songs for a 2-lp set. Have they been wiped??

Don't think they ever made it to the recording stage.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know from the book Unknown Pleasures mentioned upthread. I do know Unknown Legends of Rock and Roll.

Does Gene only seem to be better than Gram Parsons because of Parsons fatigue brought on by his over-adoring fans? Or is he actually better? Will Gene fans eventually make us tire of him too?

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link

He's better.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 22 November 2004 04:23 (nineteen years ago) link

i like Gene's music much more. More then most everything else.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 November 2004 04:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Favorite song, Dan?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 22 November 2004 05:01 (nineteen years ago) link

If You're Gone, In a Misty Morning, Here Without You, So You Say You Lost Your Baby, I'll Feel a Whole Lot Better, The Reason Why, With Care From Someone, Set You Free This Time, No Other, For a Spanish Guitar, With Tomorrow...

There was that great quote during the early days of the Byrds, someone complaining that Clark hadn't written a song for while, when they still depended on him, and Crosby says something like "oh don't worry, that girl he's seeing will split and he'll write something."

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 November 2004 06:46 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
I really like the gospel backing vocals on "Life's Greatest Fool". That song reminds me of the best couple of tracks on Exile on Main Street. I think the first few songs on No Other are the strongest ones, but the whole thing's pretty good.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I miss the nice and fun people who used to be on this thread!

(PS / Nothing against O.Nate - I've met him, he's fine.)

the bellefox, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

admission: i first heard "strenght of strings" via the This Mortal Coil cover.

Da Na Not! (donut), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I must "upload" this album to my portable music device. I'm sure it is top commuting music.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

You must have been one of those people I meant, PJM!

the bellefox, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah this is one of my favourite albums of the 70's. Just a great listen be it on a quiet evening or a train.

MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

If you like No Other, you should check out Terry Melcher's self-titled debut from 1974. Very similar in a lot of ways—gospel piano and vocals, country-ish—but even a little more epic in places. Very, very good and very underrated.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I think man can probably live by the original versions of This Mortal Coil covers alone.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 10:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't stop listening to this album. Also the bonus tracks on the new remastered CD are great. I especially like the slightly more rough & rockin' version of "Life's Greatest Fool".

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
I just saw the Gram Parsons documentary. I thought it was a bit dull, and most of the time I was wishing for a kick ass Gene Clark documentary. Oh well.

Beacause of this thread, No Other is one of my fave records. But I'm wondering if the sound on the reissue w/bonus jams is that much better than the previous CD reissue.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

whoah - this record!

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I am totally repping for "From a Silver Phial" on my show tonight. What a chorus!

Simon H., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:33 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

hella spare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3kb-FB_08M

bear, bear, bear, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 03:53 (twelve years ago) link

whoah

The Everybody Buys 1000 Aerosmith Albums A Month Club (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

rick danko on bass! also check the eight miles high from that same performance (though the tape is glitched to fuck). there's a very nice solo version of silver raven from the 1978 mcguinn, clark and hillan tour of nz/australia performed in wellington up on youtube as well.

no lime tangier, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

^hillman, too.

no lime tangier, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

No Other is the one album which can truly be described as Cosmic American Music.

Gene Clark was the unsung genius of American music and this masterpiece proves it.

No Other is one of my Desert Island albums, alongside
A Storm in Heaven (The Verve)
Spirit of Eden (Talk Talk)
Lazer Guided Melodies (Spiritualized)

Graveyard Poet, Monday, 25 February 2013 09:59 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

: /

No Other is the 1974 album by Gene Clark, a founding member of the the Byrds. At the time of its release, it was viewed as a critical and commercial failure, but over time, it's become a cult favorite. Next month, that album will be celebrated on a brief tour where it'll be performed note-for-note by a supergroup featuring Beach House, plus members of Fleet Foxes, Grizzly Bear, the Walkmen, and more.

The band will include Beach House's Victoria Legrand and Alex Scally. Lead vocal duties will be handled by Fleet Foxes' Robin Pecknold, Grizzly Bear's Daniel Rossen, the Walkmen's Hamilton Leithauser, Iain Matthews of Plainsong/Fairport Convention, and Legrand. The rest of the band features Wye Oak's Jenn Wasner, plus members of Lower Dens, Cass McCombs' band, Celebration, and Mt. Royal.

buzza, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 07:27 (ten years ago) link

i love how fragile (yet strong) Clark's voice sounds.
like he is about to cry

nostormo, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 07:36 (ten years ago) link

I can hear jenn wasner do these songs. Dont't know if I'd want to hear the rest of them try, though.

Mule, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:17 (ten years ago) link

Iain Matthews has some pretty great Clark covers scattered across his discography.
He's become one of my all-time favorite singers in a short time. This announcement did not interest me at all until I saw his name mentioned.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link

yeah he's the only name in there that I could see doing the songs justice

sleeve, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link

yeahhh, iain's "spanish guitar" is so nice. he's got a new album coming out next year, which is kinda exciting, he deserves a little more love these days.

tylerw, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

and whatevers, if these indie rockers wanna play Gene Clark songs, go for it!

tylerw, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link

What I wanna know is, when is the indie rock Roadmaster tribute show?

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link

I doubt any of them had any qualms about antagonizing David Crosby.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

Crosby was the only one who had been on any kind of a hit record in the previous five years, at least. They may have wanted to save the Byrds brand for a "complete" reunion.

Alternately, the 1973 reunion was such a critical and commercial washout that no-one thought that calling a new project "The Byrds" was any kind of enticement for record buyers.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

Not to mention McGuinn made plenty of post-original lineup Byrds albums that were all commercial failures. They may have simply viewed the name as toxic to success.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

The real missed opportunity was for the 1990 box – all five original members were still alive but they only got Mcguinn, Hillman and Crosby to record new stuff – IIRC bc no one wanted to deal with Gene or Mike.

You can slather Gene in as much disco yacht rock pop vibes as you want but he still shines through


That’s a nice track tho I’m not sure I’d say the same about the one I posted. Honestly, I had never heard “Release Me, Girl” until I downloaded that Bottom Line set w McGuinn several years back (which is great BTW). It instantly became one of my favorite lost Gene tracks but I honestly couldn’t believe how fucking pitiful that version is on the official release when I finally checked it out.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link

Did the box set situation have something to do with Clark and/or Clarke touring and billing themselves as The Byrds at certain shows?

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link

This is often the best album in the world ever. I've bought a bunch of other Gene albums since getting to know this one. His other stuff is great, but this is an off the scale mind blowing amazing album.

Duke, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link


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