RW Fassbinder: C/D, S/D, Y/DA-Y/DA

kudos man.

it's fucking 28 hours long.

Veronika Voss
Lola
Despair
The Marriage of Maria Braun
Bolwieser
Chinese Roulette
I Only Want You to Love Me
Faustrecht der Freiheit
Effi Briest
Fear Eats the Soul
The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant
The Merchant of Four Seasons
Pioneers in Ingolstadt
The American Soldier
Beware of a Holy Whore
Rios Das Mortes
Gods of the Plague
Katzelmacher

natch it was made for tv.

Whatever, ppl be having their rather ridiculous strawmen shocker.

-- Dr Morbius (wjwe...), May 5th, 2006.

dada otm, this is one of those occasions when you can safely ignore a famously egocentric cokehound.

I can see why he'd say he preferred it to be watched in larger chunks, though but there can be logistical difficulties with that (ie I'm hoping the movie theatre gave intermissions so viewers didn't have to miss 5 minute bits and pieces of the movie if they had to pee sometime during the 8 hours--and also for those of us who can hold it, so we don't have to miss parts of the movie for ppl getting up and down constantly!).

This should put paid to that little statistic.

Related question: I swore I saw a 'Berlin Alexanderplatz' DVD box set somewhere in a shop, but all searches on Amazon come up blank. Did I dream this up? Any idea when that might happen?

IT IS A TV SERIES

http://daily.greencine.com/archives/003110.html

esp. Chinese Roulette

this compilation is outstanding

on the Alexanderplatz Criterion box

How did we talk about movies before we had polls.

We groped and stumbled.

I watched the Marriage of Maria Braun this week and really, really enjoyed it. There are an awful lot of European films like that that don't do anything for me, so I was really surprised. I also managed to correctly guess he was a Gemini just by watching this film. I love all the short twists and turns to it and you never know exactly what to expect. At first the baffling ending troubled me and I thought it ruined the whole rest of the movie until I rewound and watched it one more time and then I understood. A very complex film, I thought, and a masterpiece.

I watched Querelle a long, long time ago with a friend. I don't remember what I thought of it, really. But I remember it had that famous French woman in it...Moreau, that's it. I remember there being something kindof humorous about her in that.

berlin alexanderplatz coming out in nov.

(er, on dvd)

Read a collection of essays, interviews, etc recently, greatly titled "Anarchy of the Imagination". There is a short story, of sorts - more like a film of his on 20 pages that kinda did my head in for the rest of the day hurrah.

Okay, I thought Lola was embarrassingly and irritatingly boringly bad. I even watched the Blue Angel just before it (the film with Marlene Dietrich that Fassbinder was supposed to be doing a tribute to with 'Lola') and man, I just don't get it. If the name of the film is Lola, why not make Lola the main character? And while we're at it, let's get a better plot and choose a different actress altogether!

yr mad.

http://sctv.org/characters/lola/lola.gif

yes, Bobby Bittman wd've directed the SCTV remake of Fassbinder

With Ed Grimley as Franz Biberkopf.

WAY too much of his stuff out there right now.

tailor-made kitsch for anomic urban intellectuals. fuck it.

penetrating criticism there

really worth waking up the thread for

capsule review, john. i could get into it, but i don't know if it's worth it. the weird thing about rwf fanboys, like warhol fanboys i guess, of both sexes, is that them being utter shits on a personal level becomes in some way 'part of' the total work. with fassbinder, the work is almost justification for the life. people are mannequins so it's okay to push them around. i suppose there is the alibi that it's capitalism making us mean, somewhere, but is that really even present in, say, 'petra von kant'.

otherwise, stilted versions of sirk films... if that's your thing, go nuts, have a ball, whatever.

I've seen "...Maria Braun" and "Querelle" and loathed them both. i don't intend to see any of his other film's although, strangely, i did quite like Ozon's "water Drops on Burning Rocks".

if memory serves, 'lola' has some pep to it -- 'water drops', which probably is ozon's best film (not very high praise!) comes from the late 60s, and maybe that's when he was best. the films were short and kind of fresh. you get to the mid-70s and things like 'chinese roulette' and it's basically bad chabrol and you wonder what the fuck you're doing watching.

"film's"! ugh.

xpost - re Ozon, i haven't seen much, "5x2" was on ch4 last night but i couldn't summon up the energy to watch it.

me neither, but the ones i've seen:

Swimming Pool (2003) -- dire
8 femmes (2002) -- dire
Sous le sable (2000) -- okay central perf from rampling
Water Drops on Burning Rocks -- not bad
Sitcom (1998) -- awful awful awful "OMG BENEATH THE VENEER OF BOURGEOIS RESPECTABILITY..." yarn

what kind of freak gets in the front seat of a taxi

It's not top-tier RWF, sure.

I don't know, it's pretty damn good!

Exactly -- good not great!

Good, not Querelle

a milkshake?