Audrey Hepburn or Katherine Hepburn?

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As I grow older I seem to be coming down on the Katherine side. Bringing up Baby is one of the best comedies of its era.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:36 (eighteen years ago) link

katherine, no question!

"don't say anything, hilary. just... go."


my grandfather gave me a bio of her to read - kate remembered. i started but then got sidetracked, but even the first few pages were more entertaining than most audrey hepburn movies.

tres letraj (tehresa), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:39 (eighteen years ago) link

katharine slays all comers. end of story.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:50 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm so embarrassed that i misspelled her name in the thread title!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:53 (eighteen years ago) link

me too, in my answer!
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tres letraj (tehresa), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:55 (eighteen years ago) link

i refuse to live in a world where people find this ugly:

http://delirium.lejournal.free.fr/Katharine_Hepburn1.jpg

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, Jeez. Audrey for Breakfast at Tiffany's alone

I do prefer Audrey but her character in breakfast at tiffany’s did my head in, no guy would put up with that.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 09:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Audrey never knew how to needle people. Kate could bore in like a steam drill. She also had a stronger jaw line. Natch.

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Katherine...especially in Holiday.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Katherine = annoying and not sexy
Audrey = intensely annoying and not even remotely sexy

Katherine wins... just

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:30 (eighteen years ago) link

... both very attractive of course, just not sexy

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:31 (eighteen years ago) link

did she see herself as duth or british? both?

You mean dud or Dutch? ;-) I do know that she could speak Dutch quite well. I think her granny made sure she continued using the language so she didn't forget it. I think she's so lovely. Very ethereal. Like a fragile porcelain angel. But not really sexy. If I remember correctly she said she was so skinny because of the war: the atrocities made her feel guilty of eating (or something along those lines). :-(

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Women generally find Audrey Hepburn much more attractive than men do

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:43 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, but audrey's just too demure and slight for me. i'm so not into people that i could knock over with a feather. i don't see the appeal.

it's very telling that so many people prefer audrey.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link

whereas katharine would PWN any room she walked into. now that's a woman.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 1 December 2005 11:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Nathalie nailed it above with Very ethereal. Like a fragile porcelain angel. I prefer flesh and blood, meself.

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Thursday, 1 December 2005 11:01 (eighteen years ago) link

katharine reminds me of david bowie in many ways.

Very ethereal. Like a fragile porcelain angel

if i wanted one of those, i'd buy it off the home shopping network.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 1 December 2005 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Audrey - beautiful and cute in Roman Holiday... Elegant and wonderful as UNICEF ambassador.

Katherine - knockout ihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:KH_40s-10.jpg and better actress. Admired for her confidence
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/36/Katharinehepburn1.jpg
..which got annoying with old age.

Still, Kate.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Thursday, 1 December 2005 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Audrey wears me down if I see too much of her. Although I like her more in the abstract.

Cunga, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...
three years pass...

Catching up, catching up.

I've been listening to the Julie Ruin's Run Fast in the car for a couple of days. My favourite song is "Lookout"--found this video. Could do without the oversized lyrics blocking out all the images.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4id-3mw2hsI

clemenza, Sunday, 20 August 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

in fact, it is absolutely terrible

akm, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link

I liked it a lot.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link

Pretty sure I just watched my first-ever Audrey this week (The Children's Hour). Probably not the best intro to her allure but she was quite good in it.

Clem McFlannery's Clam Phlegm Cannery (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:35 (three years ago) link

re Audrey - Sabrina, Funny Face, Green Mansions, Breakfast at Tiffany’s, The Children’s Hour, Charade - she was great in all of them

Roman Holiday, My Fair Lady, and Wait Until Dark are my favorite performances of hers

Dan S, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link

19 years later, still so embarrassed that i got kate’s name wrong in the thread title

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 02:44 (three years ago) link

Katharine has the more impressive career by far.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 11:29 (three years ago) link

Nothing in common, these two.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:37 (three years ago) link

I can think of one thing.

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link

They were into threeways and pistachio ice cream

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:47 (three years ago) link

Beat me to it.

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

Both Katherine and Audrey were slotted into very particular types of roles throughout their careers. How one relates to them is bound to be largely dependent on how one relates to their typical characters, with a small side order of how one relates to their biographies. I happen to relate better to Katherine than Audrey, just as a matter of my personal tastes.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link

Just because I got to watch and hear her for 90 minutes, I thought the documentary was pretty good. The framing bit with the ballet dancers was quite unnecessary, and they skipped over a few crucial films for some reason: Charade, The Nun's Story, The Children's Hour. (Skipping Bloodline, which played when I was an usher in 1979, a little more understandable.) I didn't know anything about her war experiences, and if I've ever seen Mel Ferrer in a film, I'm drawing a blank. (Like many, I'm sure, I probably always thought she was married to José Ferrer.) I found that guy who swooped in near the end--"Merle Oberon's companion"--a little suspicious, but it seemed like a important relationship in her life. Her time with UNICEF was moving.

clemenza, Friday, 2 April 2021 14:57 (three years ago) link

Charade is fun. But so is To Have and Have Not.

I see no necessity to choose.

calzone layer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 April 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link

Wait, fuck, did I really just write that? Not To Have and Have Not. African Queen.

calzone layer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 April 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link

(Lauren Bacall vs Rosalind Russell would be just as difficult, tho - To Have and Have Not vs His Girl Friday)

calzone layer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 April 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Would have been KH's birthday today, so I played this clip from Woman of the Year for a grade 8 class:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H00_NJtbJY

First time--I should have been playing this clip for the last 20 years! All that eye-play when they first look at each other--amazing.

clemenza, Thursday, 12 May 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

Saw a restoration of Roman Holiday today. Just love it--for me, in the first rank of American B&W sound films, up there with Double Indemnity, Kane, On the Waterfront, Sweet Smell of Success, a handful more. Not AH's first film--IMDB has it as her eighth, including one famous one (The Lavender Hill Mob), but the roles must have all been small enough that the opening credits say "Introducing Audrey Hepburn." (And "Presenting Gregory Peck.") It's perfect from start to finish, and the last scene, the press conference, is an amazing sustained bit of acting by both of them almost wholly expressed in gestures and glances. In a few of Stanley Kauffmann's books, he would append a "Reviewings" section where he'd go and look back on three or four of his favourite films. (The thing that first prompted me to see Roman Holiday in the '80s.) His Roman Holiday piece is in Before My Eyes--will reread that tonight.

I assume the film primarily (or wholly) springs from the coronation of Elizabeth II the year before, but I tend to view stuff from the '50s as it relates to the arrival of rock and roll in '55. And Roman Holiday feels like a tiny stirring--someone trapped in a stratified life, complaining that "everything we do is so wholesome," dying to break out. Which she does, for 24 hours.

(Must have come out just before Dalton Trumbo getting blacklisted; his name is prominent in the credits twice.)

clemenza, Sunday, 12 February 2023 22:07 (one year ago) link

Audrey in Lavender Hill Mob is a very short appearance indeed...around 20 seconds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mjcfTOJ4Nc

Wow--like Richard Dreyfuss in The Graduate.

I might be wrong about Trumbo. Seems that he wrote the script before the blacklist? Maybe his name was restored at some point.

clemenza, Sunday, 12 February 2023 22:19 (one year ago) link

Yeah first time I watched Lavender Hill Mob I had no idea of the Audrey bit part and it was a real WAIT WHAT moment.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 13 February 2023 11:27 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

Audrey Hepburn's accent in My Fair Lady is absolutely excruciating - without even the excuse of being American. New Year, new confession, I can't stand Audrey Hepburn.

The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Monday, 1 January 2024 16:56 (three months ago) link

Any time I see her in anything I wonder where the hell that accent comes from. It cannot be Belgian or Dutch.

Josefa, Monday, 1 January 2024 17:10 (three months ago) link

What was happening in the 60s to explain all these gorblimey cockney knees ups in musicals: My Fair Lady, Mary Poppins, Half a Sixpence, Oliver? There's probably others too.

The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Monday, 1 January 2024 19:08 (three months ago) link

Audrey Hepburn's accent in My Fair Lady is absolutely excruciating - without even the excuse of being American. New Year, new confession, I can't stand Audrey Hepburn.

― The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Monday, 1 January 2024 16:56 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

in everything tbh

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 1 January 2024 19:21 (three months ago) link

I never noticed til today that these two actors with entirely discrete careers had the same last name

he’s an adventurer (derogatory) (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 1 January 2024 19:21 (three months ago) link

well katharine pronounced it hep-burn and audrey pronounced it "hebbehhhnnehenb"

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 1 January 2024 19:23 (three months ago) link

Lmao

he’s an adventurer (derogatory) (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 1 January 2024 19:25 (three months ago) link

It's curious how Audrey Hepburn suggests a shorter actress when she actually stood 5'7". Ariana Grande is 5'1" and Tavi Gevinson 5 feet even.

Josefa, Thursday, 4 January 2024 17:34 (three months ago) link

Yes I noticed she was pretty tall in My Fair Lady.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 January 2024 17:43 (three months ago) link

tavi gevinson is a horrible actress, based on the one half season of revived gossip girl I attempted to watch. that disqualifies her completely

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 4 January 2024 20:30 (three months ago) link

but _does it_?

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 January 2024 20:50 (three months ago) link

yes

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:00 (three months ago) link

deems was having a chuckle.

the fans of a big movie star have such a powerful attachment to their idol that it requires exceptional acting ability to convincingly impersonate them. it doesn't matter how much or little acting ability the movie star may have had.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:06 (three months ago) link


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