Fucking great, the BNP assholes are in this area...

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Plus, the postman delivered a bunch of election pamphlets thee other day, incl uk|p and b|\|p bumf (it went straight in the bin) he was royally fucked off abt delivering such stuff & said that last year he'd pitched all the racist stuff in a ditch. This year, head office watched them a bit more closesey. At the same time, letter deliveries in the uk are fukced up, as in these bike parts i ordered last week too 8 days to arrive from gosport, yet the postman is delivering election pamphlets wtf?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Racist can vote for it. It is a Nationist Party. Scotland for the Sots. Now it may be primarily racist against the English, but nationalist parties tend to have some sort of ethnocentric bias which is easily assiminlated into a racist mindview.

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Again, I didn't say all SNP voters were anti-English, most of them aren't, some of them certianly are.

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:19 (nineteen years ago) link

"Don't patronise me" - biggest pot/kettle juxtaposition EVAH! How many times have you waltzed on to a thread and rubbished it?

Calum, if you're not happy about the BNP standing, vote against them and encourage others to vote against them. Stop ranting like a Daily Mail editorial.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Calum, if you're not happy about the BNP standing, vote against them and encourage others to vote against them.

100% OTM there, barry!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:20 (nineteen years ago) link

But until North Sea Oil and the advent of Thatcher, the vast majority of SNP voters were good old fashioned Anglophobes. They weren't nicknamed the Tartan Tories for nothing.

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:22 (nineteen years ago) link

"sots"?!

I recall reading a single article some years ago about how there was severe colour-of-skin based racism in Scotland, both in the cities and outside them. Its argument was that it wasn't spoken about because no-one wanted to make a noise about it esp since the people who might have made a noise about it are happy with the image of Scotland as a sound left-leaning country. But I've never seen anything similar since, was it a load of made-up nonsense?

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Daily Mail in anti BNP shocker?

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link

(though I'd say that Tory voters have invariably never been outside Southern England)

you should take a look at the stats before making such general assumptions, the north of england, particularly areas of the north west, was, and in parts still is, a bastion of support for the tories.

Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't patronise people by saying "you obviously have brains" because in many cases i'm not sure that's true. i just tell them they're talking bollocks.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:24 (nineteen years ago) link

It wasn't nonsense Tim, I certainly wasn't surprised by it in spite of the "Aren't we all great and friendly" rubbish you're bombarded with in Scotland - mega xpost!

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:27 (nineteen years ago) link

and if you have a problem with calum's other thread, address it there rather than screwing up one that couuld grow to be interesting.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:27 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't like the use of the term 'racism' with regards to Scottish v English and vice versa but perhaps it's pedantic

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link

and tim, i've found scotland to be virulently racist when i've worked there. anti-english sentiment is not racist, it's regionalist and also has some grounds thanks to the powerstructure of the past few hundred years.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:30 (nineteen years ago) link

That's sour.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't consider Glasgow and its environs to have anything to do with the rest of Scotland. Where's Robbie Lumsden when you need him?

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:31 (nineteen years ago) link

and if you have a problem with calum's other thread, address it there rather than screwing up one that couuld grow to be interesting.
Was just guessing as to ppl's hostility Dave. Ppl's opinions may be that they have given him enough chances. This is not my opinion, but I understand if it is the opinion of other posters.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:32 (nineteen years ago) link

i've at times felt more uncomfortable being chinese in scotland than in england. but that may well be irrational, and it could be an away from home thing, esp since it's never an issue around where i live. and maybe because i mostly end up in bars with a lot of very drunk old people while in scotland.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:32 (nineteen years ago) link

that was to markelby, pink

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:33 (nineteen years ago) link

it's always very difficult to take CRW seriously on ILX because of the majority of threads he has started. that's not to say this particular thread shouldn't be taken seriously.

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:33 (nineteen years ago) link

you can take the subject seriously without necessarily taking crw seriously. in fact the latter is impossible anyway.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Stevem otm here.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:34 (nineteen years ago) link

thoust kannst not taketh seriousthly one whom doth talkth shit.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

well it doesn't exactly encourage him to start making decent threads if people just trash hime WITH THE VERY FIRST POST on threads that could be half decent, steve

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

and dave s otm

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link

thoust kannst not taketh seriousthly one whom doth talkth shit.

well that's all of us screwed, then

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Scotland = White, Presbyterian, Dour Hardworking Miserable Tight-fisted Cunts
Greater Glasgow = Catholics, Asians, Chinese, Fun-loving Fops

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link

.. with two branches of Fopp?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link

smee to thread, obv.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link

you forgot the drunks

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link

haha yes and the fucked up N.E.D.s hassling you for money.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link

anywy, i'm just curious why the bnp would be trying to make inroads in scotland when the country has a much more palatable "brand" of nationalism that's a lot more successful. you'd have thought this would be the last place they'd go.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link

then again it's always been seen as an "english" nationalist party anyway, so maybe they're trying to break down borders, be inclusive!

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Pash: non-executive directors?

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Like I say Dave, they have a potential powerbase with Loyalists - those guys love Britain and the Queen more than you lot.

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:43 (nineteen years ago) link

some sort of 'greater good/common foe' theorising i expect, nothing else makes at least a lick of 'sense'

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Heh, "you lot", nice one.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link

gallery of N.E.D.s here, Tim:

http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link

There are interesting things to be said about the BNP and politics in general. But my immediate and genuine reaction was the bitter ironing relating to Calum of all people getting upset at nasty bigoted people.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry, I meant to say "you dirty English bastards"

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link

That's what I thought.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link

(And Pash the NEDs gallery won't come up, but there's an instructive page on Glaswegian weapons, presumably wielded by the fop population....)

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/gallery/gallery.html


??

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Hm something funny happening, can see your link but can't get there from the site itself. They look like non-executive directors.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link

i think we need to start a thread about bitter ironing.

the main problem is that you can never get rid of the bubbles.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:54 (nineteen years ago) link

My Dad and five half sisters are black, I'm mixed race. My sisters and I have all been born and brought up in and around Glasgow and the only racist abuse I encountered stopped a good few years ago. It was always from groups of young boys - really young and was of the mindless "Go back to where you came from" shit. Dad moved here from Barbados over fifty years ago and had virtually no abuse targeted at him whatsoever.

Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:56 (nineteen years ago) link

That's Glasgow for ya

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:58 (nineteen years ago) link

In general I've found that Scotland, though mainly white, is open and acceptive to all races. Unless everybody I have met walks away from me mumbling "half caste bastard, go back to where you came from" under their breath.

I think the asylum seekers being shipped into Sighthill awakened a lot of latent racism, but the folk who live there are of the poor giro-class pack mentality anyway.

Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Coming from a pokey little town on the West coast of Scotland, when I think back to incidents of racism and nationalism/regionalism it strikes me that our own small town ignorance and lack of integration with other cultures might well be our downfall.

Apart from Asian families there was very little variety of cultures where I was brought up, certainly no West-Indian, African or Eastern European people. I felt a total hick on my first Southbound Victoria-Line train journey after moving to London and I kinda realised that the geographical seperation of my childhood was a total petri-dish for that evil, almost casual half-hearted regionalism and racism that stinks up many Scottish peoples attitudes.

mzui, Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the asylum seekers being shipped into Sighthill awakened a lot of latent racism, but the folk who live there are of the poor giro-class pack mentality anyway.

Unfortunately it's comments like these which make "the folk who live there" into racists.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Nice to see some sympathy for the BNP upthread.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 21 June 2008 09:14 (fifteen years ago) link

God I was a dick.

-- Mark C, Friday, July 6, 2007 9:57 AM (11 months ago) Bookmark Link

lawl

banriquit, Saturday, 21 June 2008 10:15 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

my local asshole threatens national asshole with death

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 08:49 (fourteen years ago) link

How are these clowns doing in Barking btw? Anyone seen any polls on that constituency?

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link

According to...ahem...a Daily Mail article by Peter Oborne - "Local opinion polls show that BNP leader Nick Griffin stands an excellent chance of unseating veteran Labour MP Margaret Hodge". Don't know where he's getting his info from though.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 09:44 (fourteen years ago) link

... inside his head

Collectible Spoons of the 3rd Reich (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 09:47 (fourteen years ago) link


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