1790s vs. 1890s vs. 1990s vs. 2090s

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Treeship, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link

Are we just resolved to the 1890s then? It seems, of all these decades, to have been the most exciting time to be a musician. The 1990s were an era of technological change in music consumption too because filesharing emerged in this period.

Treeship, Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

"It's an exciting time to be a musician"

waterface, Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link

Hehe

Treeship, Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

Yeah im gonna say 1890s. Best time for a musician and music fans too. No music industry effing things up, if you have a favorite pop song then you probably have a deep relationship w it because you've got the sheet music and you learned how to play it on piano or guitar, or maybe you aren't even a musician but your friend is and all the songs you hear a filtered through them rather than TV commercials.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 August 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link

there was a music industry in the 1890s -- publishing (who do you think put out sheet music?) and live entertainment.

HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Thursday, 8 August 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link

You could even argue that the emergence of Tin Pan Alley marked the real birth of the pop music industry.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 8 August 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link

music hall was going strong then too. Marie Lloyd was around then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Lloyd

Yeah but it's a far cry from the RIAA and Ticketmaster and MTV and stuff. More decentralized, more organic, more diversified.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 August 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link

^ Marie Lloyd's famous number

This is pretty interesting stuff:

Over the course of the 19th and 20th centuries, the middle class of Europe and North America increased in both numbers and prosperity. This increase produced a corresponding rise in the domestic importance of the piano, as ever more families became able to afford pianos and piano instruction. The piano also became common in public institutions, such as schools, hotels, and public houses. As elements of the Western middle class lifestyle gradually spread to other nations, the piano became common in these nations as well, for example in Japan.

To understand the rise of the piano among the middle class, it is helpful to remember that before mechanical and electronic reproduction, music was in fact performed on a daily basis by ordinary people. For instance, the working people of every nation generated a body of folk music, which was transmitted orally down through the generations and sung by all. The parents of Joseph Haydn (1732–1809) could not read music, yet Haydn's father (who worked as a wheelwright) taught himself to play the harp, and the Haydn family frequently played and sang together. With rising prosperity, the many families that could now afford pianos and music adapted their home-grown musical abilities to the new instrument, and the piano became a major source of music in the home.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_history_of_the_piano

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 August 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link

Having a piano/piano lessons was definitely a sign for me that someone was middle class. A few of my friends had exactly that (yes we mocked them).

The other middle class signifier was owning 'a bbc master/micro system' for "educational purposes" .

Dunno if this was just a west of scotland thing or not though

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 12 August 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link

Want to know who the optimists are that voted for the 2090s

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 02:41 (ten years ago) link


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