DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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They've managed to make Nigel Farage sound like a voice of reason, sort of. Kudos.

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets. (stevie), Saturday, 3 August 2013 09:08 (ten years ago) link

No wonder Obama's campaign chief is helping them win the next election. They're all cunts.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 August 2013 09:38 (ten years ago) link

Farage's message is that immigration can't be controlled while the UK is part of the EU so any attempts to deter undocumented workers is cosmetic. He has a pretty clear incentive to rubbish all immigration policy that doesn't address that central point. Wouldn't imagine he'd sound so liberal if EU migration was already restricted.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Saturday, 3 August 2013 10:08 (ten years ago) link

Also has a pretty clear incentive to rubbish anything the Tories do too.

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Saturday, 3 August 2013 10:23 (ten years ago) link

The language he phrases it in is pretty transparent too: I don't like it. It really is not the way we've ever behaved or operated as a country. - This is just a whimsical personal opinion, but, there's nothing inherently morally wrong about it in absolute terms, it's just that we British like to see ourselves as above that sort of thing, and let's be honest that allows us to declare ourselves superior to less civillized foreigners yes? This is about tradition and nationalist self-image, not morality or ethics.

Yes, of course we want to deal with illegal immigration, but what's the point of rounding people up at railway stations if at the same time they're still flooding in through Dover and the other nearly hundred ports in this country - You're not doing the job thoroughly enough!

glumdalclitch, Saturday, 3 August 2013 11:01 (ten years ago) link

so much insight

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 3 August 2013 11:08 (ten years ago) link

its not just that ukip have been outflanked but quite a lot of conservatives too, not all of whom regard the purity of the volk as being so important that it requires having thugs hassling random people in the street

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 3 August 2013 11:12 (ten years ago) link

The minister revealed that no details of the ethnicity of those questioned were recorded, with officers noting only the nationality, name and date of birth of those they spoke to. Some 17 people were arrested on suspicion of immigration offences at two tube stations where operations were carried out. Data on the numbers stopped for questioning will be released in due course, he added.

"We are not carrying out random checks of people in the street and asking people to show their papers," he told the BBC's Radio 4 Today programme. "That's absolutely not what we are doing. We wouldn't have the lawful authority to do that.

"The operations carried out at two tube stations were based on specific intelligence about concerns that we had about those particular locations and about the times when we conducted the operations. We weren't stopping people based on their race or their ethnicity. We were only stopping people and questioning them where we had a reasonable suspicion that they were an immigration offender."

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 3 August 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link

would love to know how they arrived at this "reasonable suspicion" without ever recognising people's race or ethnicity

confusion is sexts (c sharp major), Saturday, 3 August 2013 11:39 (ten years ago) link

Might be a bit of a slap-down to Boris Johnson as well, i suppose. Reminding him who's in charge of immigration policy in the capital.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Saturday, 3 August 2013 11:43 (ten years ago) link

While it is pretty lolworthy to see Farage criticising the government for being too racist you have to willfully overlook the fact that a lot of this is his fault in the first place.

Reports in the Indy today of victims of domestic violence being questioned about their immigration status. This fucking country.

Matt DC, Saturday, 3 August 2013 12:08 (ten years ago) link

Any time a foreigner is detained by police, the first thing they want to know is your immigration status. Even if your status is perfectly in order, it's still a sinister question in that setting.

aldi young dudes (suzy), Saturday, 3 August 2013 12:51 (ten years ago) link

I have some doubts about whether the sort of people who want to see these checks in place will be satisfied with them.

cardamon, Saturday, 3 August 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link

Spot the odd one out!

Questioned on the BBC News Channel, Mr Bloom, MEP for Yorkshire and Northern Lincolnshire, said it would be "absurd" and "ridiculous" to label his comments racist.

He said Bongo Bongo Land was "a figment of people's imagination. It's like Ruritania or the Third World".

He added: "It's sad how anybody can be offended by a reference to a country that doesn't exist."

Neil S, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link

"One of those ghost stories like Harry Potter or the Bible..."

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link

"A myth, like a UKIP majority at a General Election."

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link

"but you don't understand, Bongo Bongo Land is the name of my dog"

Neil S, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23597233

The UK Independence Party has banned its representatives from saying the phrase "Bongo Bongo Land", after an MEP used it to describe countries receiving government aid.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link

political correctness gone mad

Neil S, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link

They'll be banning that Kia-Ora ad next...

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link

It's Um Bongo I'm worried about

Neil S, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

He said Bongo Bongo Land was "a figment of people's imagination. It's like Ruritania or the Third World".

I thought it was invented by Alan Clark? That's former Tory Minister, Alan Clark, of course.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link

"It's sad how anybody can be offended by a reference to a country that doesn't exist."

this is really incredible

ogmor, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link

If the next government is a Tory/UKIP coalition, there'll be five years of this stuff.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link

BONGO BINGO from GB Games
A fun family game to play with your sad old racist uncle round the Christmas dinner table. Each player represents a member of the European Parliament. When one of the following catchphrases pops up, tick it off your sheet:

"It's a generation thing"
"There's nothing unpleasant about it"
"Of course you can't say that kind of thing these days"
"They won't let you say anything these days"
"No offence meant by it"
"I'm sorry if this offends you, but.."
"I don't see what's so controversial about it"
"It's just a game"
"It's only a joke"
"I don't like these black boys"

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

Those devious Africans, always exploiting and ripping off the us poor white Europeans.

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link

lol@this:

On Politics
Most viewed
Latest
Last 24 hours
1. Godfrey Bloom expresses 'sincere regret' for 'bongo bongo land' remarks
2. Ukip tells Godfrey Bloom to stop referring to 'bongo bongo land'
3. Ukip's Godfrey Bloom will not apologise over 'bongo bongo land' comments
4. Ukip MEP Godfrey Bloom criticises aid to 'bongo bongo land'

Eight Model Play, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link

to clarify,lol because the top four most viewed stories function as a condensed timeline in reverse of the whole stupid story, with Bloom making an asinine remark, insisting he will not apologise, getting bollocked by his party and suddenly realising he sincerely regrets what he said, not because i find anything particularly amusing about the phrase 'bongo bongo land', just to be clear.

Eight Model Play, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link

Sorry for sounding shifty and defensive.

Eight Model Play, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link

too late ur card's marked

Dr Peter Who? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link

The "generational thing" is such a pile of arse-canard. Man was born three years after my own father and I know for a fact that his 'generation' weren't all a bunch of slimy racist toe-rags. Being an old git is one thing and maybe, yes, it was once acceptable to say "Bongo Bongo Land" in polite company without anyone batting an eyelid (I remember the juice adverts on TV as well) - but flaunting the fact you're an old git and unapologetically insisting on the right to be utterly out of touch with the sensitivities and sensibilities of the modern world BECAUSE you're an old git is not an acceptable excuse for an influential person who is in a position of power. In fact it's completely irresponsible and totally pathetic. I'm sure GB would say that he's fighting for free speech, smashing down the Orwellian newspeak blockades of political correctness that have had us all in chains for god-knows how long. I say to that, what a hero. What a trooper for showing the world that you can say whatever the hell you like on a public platform and then turn around and say 'I'm allowed to call this group of people this derogatory term because that's what we used to call them in the sixties'. News fucking flash: It's not the sixites any more. Apartheid is over. Enoch Powell is dead. Minstrel shows are no longer amusing. We've come a long way in a short time, but apparently not far enough because when a grown man with enough wherewithal to get into the European Parliament can't work out why 'Bongo Bongo Land' is racist, it only goes to show how fantastically out of touch he and his party's policies actually are.

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link

*breathes*

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link

The 'old buffer not realising it's not OK to use certain words/phrases anymore' factor doesn't really apply here, i don't think, they're so blatantly using this kind of language because they know it's not 'OK', that it winds people up, everything about this smirking tool just screams that, and as you suggest he was born in 1949, he's not even that old.

Eight Model Play, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link

jesus. i know it's august but...

m white otm http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2013/aug/07/godfrey-bloom-bongo-bongo-land-ukip

caek, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link

yes, it was once acceptable to say "Bongo Bongo Land" in polite company without anyone batting an eyelid

When, 1907?

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 August 2013 09:41 (ten years ago) link

Quite

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Thursday, 8 August 2013 10:53 (ten years ago) link

I think by 'polite company' he means 'the company of old racists' so he'll be delighted to find it's probably still fine.

Blandford Forum, Thursday, 8 August 2013 10:54 (ten years ago) link

The "caused any genuine offence" line is such bollocks. He thinks it's all faux-offence and that everyone's an old racist really, they're just all ordered not to seem like it by their bosses.

stet, Thursday, 8 August 2013 11:16 (ten years ago) link

so much insight

― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, August 3, 2013 12:08 PM

Ooh I missed this! If it makes it any clearer I completely messed up the formatting. I should have quoted him and put my 'translation' in italics; whether that would have please the gatekeeper of insight is doubtful, but let's be honest it contains about as much insight as your next post.

glumdalclitch, Saturday, 10 August 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link

Lithuana otm. Newspaper cartoonists are so shit.

oppet, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link

'HMS Rattling Sabre' makes no sense, since those ships were scheduled to visit Gibraltar months before this current trouble.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link

With Royal Navy warships due to set sail for the Mediterranean on a scheduled deployment, Mr Johnson said: “Perhaps it really is a coincidence - as the Foreign Office claims - that we have just sent a fleet of warships to Gibraltar.

Maybe it's just a fluke that HMS Illustrious is about to bristle into view on the southern coast of Spain, complete with thousands of Royal Marines and other elite commando units.

”But I hope not. I hope that one way or another we will shortly prise Spanish hands off the throat of our colony, because what is now taking place is infamous.“

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link

looks like the yolk's on him etc.

Neil S, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link

Can't even manage to get egg on his face.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23696920

"This is not the first time it's happened to me, I'm sure it's not the last," says Mr Miliband.

He'll be here all week. Try the veal.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link

Just watched the clip. Not that it matters, but he really in no way possesses anything remotely resembling a common touch.

no one should be offended by the lyrics in this song (stevie), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link

"They should stop giving favouritism to the banks. They do nothing. The government do nothing. The shadow government do nothing," he said.

"I don't believe him at all. If you are poor, you are considered a burden. All they care about is the banks."

he ain't cogent, but he ain't wrong

he really in no way possesses anything remotely resembling a common touch.

The perfect candidate to go up against the Tories then.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link


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