Awesome results, nice work everyone. Cheers for running the poll SD.
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 2 August 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
yeah this was surprisingly perfect.
― Hooks on Phoenix worked for me (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 2 August 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
oh wait n/m i just realized i could do it from where i am, it's all there now (xp)
― some dude, Friday, 2 August 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
bummed about Can't Get Wit That not placing (its always the track I play people when they somehow dismiss jay as commercial and boring and invariably it changes up how they think about him), and Things That U Do and Do It Again placing so low. I thought the latter two were universally loved.
― stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Friday, 2 August 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
thanks guys! y'all are the best!
― some dude, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
ok, one more stats breakdown, then you guys can post ballots and whatnot
Jay-Z’s top 10 producers, by point totals, with top 2 ranking productions in parentheses:
1. Timbaland – 2986 (“Big Pimpin’,” “Nigga What, Nigga Who”)2. Kanye West – 2811 (“The Takeover,” “Heart of the City”3. Just Blaze – 1514 (“U Don’t Know,” “PSA”)4. DJ Premier – 1281 (“So Ghetto,” “A Million And One Questions”)5. Ski – 1259 (“Dead Presidents,” “Streets Is Watching”)6. Swizz Beatz – 813 (“Money, Cash, Hoes,” “Jigga My Nigga”)7. Irv Gotti – 777 (“Can I Get A,” “Can I Live”)8. The Neptunes – 706 (“I Just Wanna Love U,” “La La La”)9. Big Jaz – 448 (“Ain’t No,” “Rap Game/Crack Game”)10. Bink! – 472 (“1-900-Hustler,” “The Ruler’s Back”)
for comparison, old poll thread on the same subject: best Jay-Z/producer combo
― some dude, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link
Good breakdown. Interesting. Seems about what you'd expect, preem and ski were close.
― Hooks on Phoenix worked for me (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 2 August 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
my ballot (tracks out of the top 80 in bold)
1. Things That U Do2. I Can't Get Wit That3. Jigga What, Jigga Who (Originator 99)4. Beware of the Boys5. D'Evils6. Politics as Usual7. Do It Again (Put Ya Hands Up)8. Snoopy Track9. S. Carter10. Ain't No Ni**a11. The Originators12. Dope Man13. Dead Presidents II14. Izzo15. Come and Get Me16. Hawaiian Sophie17. Can I Get A…18. Stop19. Paper Chase20. Money, Cash, Hoes21. Frontin'22. So Ghetto23. I Just Wanna Love U (Give It 2 Me)24. Lucifer25. A Dream
Top 5 albums1. Vol 32. Vol 23. Reasonable Doubt4. The Blueprint5. The Dynasty
Top 5 tracks with Jay but not needing Jay1. Can I Get A…2. What We Do3. Is That Yo Bitch?4. Poppin' Tags5. Big Pimpin'
― stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Friday, 2 August 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link
this was my ballot
#1: Can't Knock the Hustle
#2: Takeover
#3: A Week Ago
#4: Dead Presidents II
#5: Izzo
#6: U Don't Know
#7: Feelin It
#8: Hard Knock Life
#9: Heart of the City
#10: Change the Game
#11: Streets is Watchin
#12: Coming of Age (DA Sequel)
#13: Girls Girls Girls
#14: Big Pimpin
#15: Intro/A Million and One Questions....
#16: So Ghetto
#17: Brooklyn's Finest
#18: Snoopy Track
#19: This Can't Be Life
#20: If I Should Die
#21: Encore
#22: Public Service Announcement
#23: Nigga What, Nigga Who
#24: Dirt Off Your Shoulder
#25: Poppin' Tags
#26: The Watcher 2
#27: Dope Man
#28: Can I Get A...
#29: Song Cry
#30: Friend or Foe
#31: Where I'm From
#32: Hovi Baby
#33: Paper Chase
#34: Ain't No Nigga
#35: New Day
― Neanderthal, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
my ballot, songs that didn't place in the top 40 in bold:
1. so ghetto 2. feelin' it3. snoopy track4. aint no love (heart of the city)5. dead presidents 2 6. brooklyn's finest7. cashmere thoughts8. where i'm from9. i just wanna love u10. hola hovito
11. 1-900-hustler12. can I live 213. d'evils14. lucifer15. it's hot
16. big pimpin'17. twenty two twos18. public service announcement19. izzo (hova)20. what we do (freeway)21. regrets 22. can i get a 23. this can't be life24. meet the parents25. u don't know
26. in my lifetime27. change the game28. money cash hoes29. ain't no nigga30. s. carter
31. 99 problems32. the takeover33. streets is watching34. who you with35. can i live
― Pope Cuddlestein (symsymsym), Friday, 2 August 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link
all the reasonable doubt album tracks basically
rules for myself were "no reasonable doubt no blueprint no black album"
1. Come and Get Me2. Big Pimpin'3. N---- What N---- Who (Originator 99)4. La-La-La (Excuse Me Miss Again)5. Where I'm From6. It's Hot (Some Like It Hot)7. Snoopy Track8. You Must Love Me9. It's Alright10. Poppin' Tags11. Is That Yo Bitch12. 1-900-Hustler13. So Ghetto14. Ride Or Die15. Streets Is Watching16. I Just Wanna Love U (Give It 2 Me)17. Hey Papi18. Can I Get A…19. This Can't Be Life20. Rap Game/Crack Game21. Who You Wit22. Money Cash Hoes23. Some People Hate24. Friend or Foe '9825. If I Should Die26. The City Is Mine27. Streets is Talking28. Imaginary Player29. Some How Some Way30. What They Gonna Do
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 2 August 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link
and that's such an awesome ballot that it never would've occurred to me looking at it "there's something missing, like he was avoiding certain songs for some reason"
― some dude, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:14 (ten years ago) link
(unranked ballot, songs o/s the 80 in bold)
Dead PresidentsI Love The DoughI'll Be (Foxy Brown feat. Jay-Z)Can't Knock The HustleAin't No N***aD'EvilsRap Game / Crack GameCan I Get A...Hard Knock Life (Ghetto Anthem)N***a What, N***a WhoRide Or DiePaper ChaseIs That Yo B*tch?S. CarterPop 4 RocNYMPThat's Right (Amil feat. Jay-Z)So GhettoI Just Wanna Love U (Give It 2 Me) TakeoverIzzo (H.O.V.A.)Girls, Girls, GirlsHeart of the City (Ain't No Love)Song CryBack in the Day (Missy feat Jay-Z)La-La-La (Excuse Me Again)December 4thDirt Off Your ShoulderMoment of Clarity99 ProblemsLuciferDiamonds from Sierra Leone (remix)Roc Boys (And The Winner Is)Jockin' Jay-Z (Dope Boy Fresh)New Day
Thank you, some dude!
― Jeff W, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link
My tracks ballot (ranked 1-35):
Dead Presidents IICan I LiveImaginary PlayerD'EvilsPoppin' TagsIzzo (H.O.V.A.)TakeoverWhere I'm FromJigga What, Jigga Who (Originator 99)Snoopy TrackU Don't KnowMoney, Cash, HoesIntro/A Million and One Questions/Rhyme No MoreBig Pimpin'Can I Get a...All I NeedPolitics as UsualPublic Service AnnouncementIs That Yo BitchThe Ruler's BackEncoreHeart of the City (Ain't No Love)Friend or FoeCan't Knock the HustleIt's Hot (Some Like It Hot)Rap Game/Crack GameIf I Should DieWho You Wit IISome People HateGuess Who's Back (w/ Scarface)This Can't Be LifeSo GhettoBrooklyn's FinestRoc Boys (And the Winner Is)1-900 Hustler
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
it's pretty tragic that Irv Gotti made the "Can I Live" and "Can I Get A" beats but then became a brand name by throwing windchimes over Bad Boy beats
― some dude, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link
TRACKS
1. Can I Live2. D’evils3. Guess Whos Back4. Snoopy Track5. Come and Get Me6. Big Pimpin7. Medly: intro8. The Originator9. Some How Some Way10. Time To Build (lol why did i place this so high? I think I forgot to edit it out)11. Nigga What Nigga Who12. Only A Customer13. Young G’s 14. Reservoir Dogs15. Dec 416. Threat17. Cant Knock The Hustle18. It’s Like That19. Hypnotic20. Public Service Announcement21. Lucifer22. Hey Papi23. U Don’t Know24. Diamonds from Sierra Leone25. Change The Game26. A Week Ago27. Money Aint a Thing28. Never Change29. La La La30. Honey31. Always Be My Sunshine32. 1 900 Hustler33. What You Think of That34. Where I’m From35. Dead Presidents II
ALBUMS
1. Reasonable Doubt2. Vol 23. Vol 14. The Dynasty5. The Blueprint
― Hooks on Phoenix worked for me (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 2 August 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
8-19 was a rough run for me
― Hooks on Phoenix worked for me (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 2 August 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
Listening to Memphis Bleek's verse in "1-900-Hustler" is a helluva way to start a weekend let me tell YOU.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 August 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link
lol "Time To Build"
lotta pre-RD tracks are impressive but the only one i really love enough that i'd've considered voting for is probably "Only A Customer"
― some dude, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I burned a high vote on that one. Only A Customer, though, would place it even higher today.
― Hooks on Phoenix worked for me (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 2 August 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
spottie you and me on that "some how some way" tip
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 2 August 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
"Some How" is good but i could never look at it as anything but a minor "This Can't Be Life" sequel
― some dude, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
xp yeah man! thats my beanie/face/jay cut of choice. Play that and This Cant Be Life back to back and you'll drowned in tears.
― Hooks on Phoenix worked for me (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 2 August 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
but its close, probably should have put them both in there.
these are all gold tbh
best Scarface/Roc-A-Fella collab
― some dude, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link
1) Where I'm From 2) U Don't Know3) Takeover4) Nigga What Nigga Who5) Hard Knock Life6) It's Hot (Some Like It Hot)7) Can't Knock the Hustle8) Brooklyn's Finest9) Politics as Usual10) Money Cash Hoes11) Public Service Announcement12) Success13) Streets is Watching14) Blueprint (Momma Loves Me)15) D'Evils16) Addicted to the Game17) Ain't No Nigga18) What More Can I Say19) Izzo (H.O.V.A.)20) Never Change21)Oh My God22) Money Ain't A Thang23) Dirt Off Your Shoulder24) It's Alright25) So Ghetto26) Show Me What You Got (kind of regret this vote, but like the beat and wanted to throw a pop tune a bone)27) Big Pimpin'28) Friend or Foe29) Jigga My Nigga 30) Niggas in Paris31) H.A.M.
Also feel kind of meh about my Watch the Throne track votes, but at the same time I think that album got so overly shit-talked on ILM that I wanted to up it a little.
― HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Friday, 2 August 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link
AWESOME POLL SOME D
My ballot:
1. It's Hot (Some LIke it Hot)2. Heart of the City (Ain't No Love)3. Politics As Usual4. Where I'm From5. Come & Get Me6. Friend Or Foe '987. Can I Get A...8. The Takeover9. Intro/A Million And One Questions/Rhyme No More10. Girls Girls Girls (Remix)11. Dead Presidents II12. Meet The Parents13. Who You Wit II14. Money Ain't A Thang15. U Don't Know16. Big Pimpin'17. So Ghetto18. Nigga What, Nigga Who19. Can't Knock The Hustle20. Is That Yo Bitch21. Poppin' Tags22. Hey Papi23. Parking Lot Pimpin'24. H To The Izzo25. Streets Is Watching26. Public Service Announcement (Interlude) 27. Money, Cash, Hoes28. You Must Love Me29. La La La (Excuse Me Miss Again)30. Brooklyn's Finest31. Song Cry32. N***a Please33. Can I Live II34. 1-900 Hustler35. Stop
― Tim F, Friday, 2 August 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link
lol "99 problems" just missed the top 40
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, August 2, 2013 1:50 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol, knew it would. I don't even hate the song (actually love it tons, even the homage to UGK in the last verse), but I hate that it was a gimmicky tune that non-Jay fans still throw out whenever you say you like Jay-Z. "Oh, it's the 99 Problems guy". fuck that.
― Neanderthal, Friday, 2 August 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
sad that ther ewasn't much A Week Ago love :(
― Neanderthal, Friday, 2 August 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link
this was really fun
― Attractive Humas 2013 (a not-necessarily WS thread) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 August 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link
here's my ballot
1. big pimpin (ft. ugk)2. can i get a... (ft. amil & ja rule)3. nigga what, nigga who (originator 99) (ft. jaz-o)4. intro/a million in one questions/rhyme no more5. heart of the city6. poppin tags (ft. big boi, twista & killer mike)7. stretch & bobbito 95 (w/ big l)8. so ghetto9. izzo (hova)10. money cash hoes (ft. dmx)11. PSA12. dead presidents II13. what we do (ft. freeway & beanie sigel)14. i just wanna luv u15. money ain't a thing (w/ jermaine dupri)16. jigga my nigga17. this can't be life (ft. beanie sigel & scarface) 18. it's hot (some like it hot)19. the bounce (ft. kanye west)20. reservoir dogs 21. is that your bitch? (w/ memphis bleek & missy elliott)22. party people (w/ timbaland &magoo/twista)23. jigga that nigga24. frontin (w/ pharrell)25. heartbreaker (w/ mariah carey)26. snoopy track (ft. juvenile)27. mya - best of me pt 2 (ft. jay-z)28. hola hovito29. lobster & scrimp (w/ timbaland)30. guess who's back (w/ scarface & beanie sigel)31. hard knock life32. niggas in paris (w/ kanye west)33. missy elliott - one minute man (remix) (ft. jay-z)34. u don't know35. 1-900-hustler
xxpost awesome poll overall tho
my ballot, outside top 40 bolded:
Where I’m From Lucifer I Just Wanna Love U Hey Papi U Don’t Know Who You Wit Streets Is Watching Song Cry Come And Get Me Can I Live Can I Get A So Ghetto Money Ain’t A Thang Guess Who’s Back Intro/A Million My 1st Song Rap Game/Crack Game Imaginary Player Hard Knock Life This Can’t Be Life Is That Yo Bitch 1-900-Hustler Can’t Knock The Hustle Encore What We Do Best Of Me (Remix)All I Need Heart of the City Diamonds From Sierra Leone It’s Alright Friend Or Foe ’98 - Change the GamePSA Nigga What Dead Presidents
― some dude, Friday, 2 August 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link
YAY ANOTHER "CHANGE THE GAME" AND "ENCORE" VOTE, lol.
― Neanderthal, Friday, 2 August 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link
I had Friend or Foe 98 on my orig list but I think I removed it as I didn't wanna vote for both songs in a series.
― Neanderthal, Friday, 2 August 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link
i was gonna say that i'm really surprised that "what we do" didn't place but i actually had to re-send my ballot to shiplo cuz i forgot the first time
― Attractive Humas 2013 (a not-necessarily WS thread) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 August 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link
that's one of jay's best verses though
i have a friend who hates Jay's "What We Do" verse, i wouldn't go that far, but really i'd like the song almost as much if all Jay did was tell Free "keep it flowin'"
― some dude, Friday, 2 August 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link
What We Do is maybe my favorite Roc song
― President Keyes, Saturday, 3 August 2013 01:35 (ten years ago) link
guess I'm the only one who loves Momma Loves Me
― HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Saturday, 3 August 2013 03:58 (ten years ago) link
it's really good. just always gets outshined by its album and some slightly similar songs in the catalog i guess.
― some dude, Saturday, 3 August 2013 04:05 (ten years ago) link
on "what we do" i don't see how jay and beanie sigel's verses can be anything but letdowns after freeway's?
― stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Saturday, 3 August 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
dunno if this fits in the thread but my roomie was playing this over and over last week and now I'm obsessed
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XDxeugnRQLo&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DXDxeugnRQLo
― old homophobic boom bap rap traditionalist (The Reverend), Sunday, 20 October 2013 03:42 (ten years ago) link
Fuck, this was v definitely the wrong thread haha
Sorry kinda faded
― old homophobic boom bap rap traditionalist (The Reverend), Sunday, 20 October 2013 03:43 (ten years ago) link
I feel like the secret to "Is That Yo Bitch" is the demo-quality vocals
― old homophobic boom bap rap traditionalist (The Reverend), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 05:32 (ten years ago) link
My top twenty-five: https://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2017/01/13/gotta-learn-to-live-with-regrets-best-of-jay-z/
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 January 2017 14:18 (seven years ago) link
never really understood the "can i get a" love. so many superior songs from that 5 year period
― k3vin k., Saturday, 14 January 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link
cuz it sounds great on the radio? Simple as that.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 January 2017 19:31 (seven years ago) link