Bill Callahan - Dream River

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Wanna hear those dubs.

I have in front of me an opportunity to go see this man at a place called Pappy and Harriet's Pioneertown Palace, just outside Joshua Tree. An outdoor venue that encourages bbqin' under the stars. It's a two and a half hour drive from where I am, and I'd probably have to do a half day at work the next day in order to fully enjoy myself. But I'm thinking I should take this opportunity despite the costs.

del griffith, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link

Thought that Apocalypse doc was solid! Then I saw it projected outdoors while eating tacos and drinking beer and Callahan played a few songs at the end.

circa1916, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link

album title is making me want to hear callahan sing "moon river"

tylerw, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 01:48 (ten years ago) link

del griffith that sounds like an awesome opportunity!

marcos, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link

pappy and harriet's is GREAT do it do it

Rothko's Chicken and Waffles (donna rouge), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link

cool
He said the resonant conga beat that drives “Javelin Unlanding” lent itself to a dub makeover.

this makes me excited for the album version

mizzell, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link

lol i'd really prefer to hear the album version first. ha i'm not sure that the dub format suits callahan that great? i always appreciate how honest the production is on recent albums, esp. apocalypse, his voice comes across so clean that i don't really feel like i need/want spacey dub effects. i mean, i love dub, but callahan satisfies other needs i have and not my spacey dub needs

marcos, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link

(“Some people feel the taste of pilgrim guts are too strong/I find I can’t get by without it for too long” goes one line on the new album)

szarkasm (schlump), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

awesome

will.i.an (cajunsunday), Thursday, 12 September 2013 17:45 (ten years ago) link

yeah, sounds great.

tylerw, Thursday, 12 September 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link

yeah, i wanna read that boxing bio now

@twitizensforlemonlipbalm (schlump), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link

is it just me or has his critical profile really grown in recent years?

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link

like maybe since the transition from smog to bill callahan?

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link

i think his records have gotten more listener friendly (and i don't mean that as a negative thing), so the npr crowd might be more into him.

tylerw, Friday, 13 September 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link

true, prob a combo of more listener-friendly albums and just sticking around putting out consistently good stuff for a long time

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link

yeah and it's a rare instance where his transition into a somewhat more traditional performer/songwriter sheds a new light on all of his previous stuff? not sure if that makes sense.

tylerw, Friday, 13 September 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link

anyway, speaking of previous stuff, this tumblr (which i think has been mentioned elsewhere) has been posting some of callahan's old zine writings
http://fuckinrecordreviews.tumblr.com/tagged/Bill-Callahan

tylerw, Friday, 13 September 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link

gahh i like reading stuff about bill callahan because i like bill callahan but that grantland piece is really annoying

marcos, Friday, 13 September 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link

It's just that his wit tends toward the dry ("A Man Needs a Woman or a Man to Be a Man")

like, why is this "dry" wit?

marcos, Friday, 13 September 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link

(i love that lyric btw)

marcos, Friday, 13 September 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link

yeah it's not very good, i don't need to read exegesis of an album i haven't even heard yet

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 13 September 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link

Conducting a phone interview in a bathroom (as opposed to interviewing via e-mail, his preferred method of interacting with the press) represents a decisive move for Callahan outside of his comfort zone, which is indicative of how the 47-year-old has restructured his life in the past couple years. When I complimented him on his greatly improved singing, particularly on Apocalypse and Dream River, he admitted that he has only recently started approaching his vocals and guitar-playing as crafts that need to be constantly honed and nurtured.

doing a phone interview instead of an email interview constitutes a "decisive" restructuring of his life? and has some kind of relationship to callahan putting a greater focus on his singing? thanks dude, wow!

marcos, Friday, 13 September 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link

guys it's fine
there is not enough smog interview in the smog interview but it's fine anyway

@twitizensforlemonlipbalm (schlump), Friday, 13 September 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link

yeah it's not very good, i don't need to read exegesis of an album i haven't even heard yet

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, September 13, 2013 2:08 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i posted something a while ago about how his music has been written about extensively but never very well. he doesn't really have the exegetes (?) he deserves.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 13 September 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link

doing a phone interview instead of an email interview constitutes a "decisive" restructuring of his life?

i didn't love the piece although i enjoyed the enthusiasm of it. I can, however, totally see how deciding to do a phone interview rather than an email one could be a decisive and important choice for someone like BC whose reticence or even inarticulacy (outside of his music) has been made quite a lot of in the past. I dare say even more in his personal life than in the press this has been a thing for him.

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Friday, 13 September 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link

iirc Berman also preferred email interviews and had a lot of good reasons to back it up, saying (paraphrasing from a notoriously poor memory) that he only really relied on 'sound bytes' and shit when he was put on the spot, and that he took email interviews seriously, took his time answering them, etc. I guess what you gain from thoughtful responses, you lose in the sort of natural back and forth dynamic, I guess.

Anyway, I'm really excited for this album.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 14 September 2013 00:14 (ten years ago) link

"javelin unlanding" is one of his best songs. total electric eden prog folk. fuck yeah

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 14 September 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link

don't bear around the bush. are you implying theres a leak?

nostormo, Saturday, 14 September 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link

it's out there

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 14 September 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link

the production sounds fucking awesome.

so rich and full of details

nostormo, Saturday, 14 September 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link

whoever plays electric guitar for Bill is... really incredible. guy's a painter. unsurprisingly, this is great. "rich production" OTM. so much neat stuff going on here. seems like he's gotten a lot wordier too. not a bad thing at all.

looking forward to spending a lot of time with this.

circa1916, Saturday, 14 September 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

i think it's Matt Kinsey

nostormo, Saturday, 14 September 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link

"seems like he's gotten a lot wordier too. not a bad thing at all."

not sure about that yet

nostormo, Saturday, 14 September 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link

Something to be said for the distant "man of few but potent words" persona he owned. I do feel a bit overwhelmed. Just too much to take in and not enough time to ruminate on it.

circa1916, Saturday, 14 September 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link

you mean in the 20 minutes since you downloaded it?

congratulations (n/a), Saturday, 14 September 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link

sorta like destroyer, who emulates the hell out of bill

xpost

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 14 September 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link

Har. Lyrically, there's just a lot coming at you. But, yeah, FIRST IMPRESSIONS and all.

xp

circa1916, Saturday, 14 September 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link

apples and ornages
xpost

nostormo, Saturday, 14 September 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link

destroyer:smog :: bowie:bolan

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 14 September 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

so rich and full of details

gee imagine how good the actual release will sound

nerve_pylon, Saturday, 14 September 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link

if i won't fall in love with the record it might stay as an imaginative thing, yeah:

first impression and all - songs sounds kinda samey, melody wise.

the production is great.

nostormo, Saturday, 14 September 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link

well the only words I said today are "beer" and "thank you"

Number None, Saturday, 14 September 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link

BTW, before any gets too accusatory about people hearing this before the 'street date' (lol), my vinyl copy came today - a few days early.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Sunday, 15 September 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link

how dare you shake what's under the tree

@twitizensforlemonlipbalm (schlump), Sunday, 15 September 2013 01:12 (ten years ago) link

No drag city spotify ;_;

6 Tuesdays on every Tuesday. This is called dumpy pants. (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 15 September 2013 02:06 (ten years ago) link

Just bought new QOTSA bc spotify
But I guess this behavior is atypical?

6 Tuesdays on every Tuesday. This is called dumpy pants. (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 15 September 2013 02:09 (ten years ago) link

So far liking this more than Apocalypse which, while perfectly fine, I didn't really connect with. Also, I'm totally purchasing this come Tuesday, so sorry Bill and co. about being too excited to wait.

This does feel like maybe a new era for him. More naked and open, less obfuscating, guarded, mysterious. He's ready to talk. That grantland piece making a deal about phone interviews makes some sense. Definitely saw this happening in the Apocalypse doc, which is something I couldn't imagine him being comfortable with some years ago.

circa1916, Sunday, 15 September 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link

Isn't he with H4nly Banks any more? They married some years ago iirc

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 December 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

(oh you mean since the last record, gotcha)

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 December 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

he sure gets the pretty ladies.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Sunday, 3 December 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link

Wow had no idea about the marriage n kid

circa1916, Sunday, 3 December 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link

She filmed the 'Apocalypse' docu about him.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 December 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link

Was that ever released? Is it any good?

Moodles, Sunday, 3 December 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

xp Oh I knew they were a couple, came up at the screening. Didn’t know that it got that serious.

The doc is great, yeah. Assume it’s out in digital/Blu-ray/DVD format.

circa1916, Sunday, 3 December 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link

you can watch it here for a few dollars https://www.vudu.com/movies/#!content/517810/Apocalypse-A-Bill-Callahan-Tour-Film

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Sunday, 3 December 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link

i've never gotten into this one

this is the only one I unambiguously love the whole way through, inc smog, though I haven’t heard all of those

sciatica, Sunday, 3 December 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

I've heard and enjoyed just about everything he's ever done but I wouldn't hesitate to say that this one is my favorite.

cwkiii, Sunday, 3 December 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link

this is really wonderful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQUvbDY8fuw

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

agree

gbx, Sunday, 24 December 2017 05:24 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

I discovered this album earlier this year and have been loving it during lockdown. This week I discovered the dub versions, which have taken my love to a higher level. Strong feeling of John Martyn circa "Small Hours".

fetter, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

Have Fun With God is so good--I went straight for it and never looked back (mind, not that it's precisely the same thing but I likewise love No Protection and never listen to Protection proper)

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link


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