Brand New: emo beacon or lesser light?

Okay so The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me is totally amazing.

i used to be *really* into brand new when i was in HS

their first two albums are great too, esp deja

do iiii diviiiide and fall apart?

re: devil and god, probably the best rock record of the last ten years imo

It's very loud though. I have to find a way to listen to it that won't wake the entire apartment block.

I need to pick up Deja Entendu I suppose.

Okay so The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me is totally amazing.

― Tim F, Sunday, July 28, 2013 8:50 AM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this. i am tempted to quote that immortal ian zeiring line.

NEW SONG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=21&v=CwICLInIl8A

I MEAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwICLInIl8A

Not blown away just yet but v v glad they're back

!!!!

sounds like "sink" and "archers," which i'm v down with

new song - a slow and depressive one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBen_48OOSU

oh you got me excited there, thought they had put it out officially

lol i only just heard about it, when i looked back at the post date i was like "o shit this was a month ago whoops"

i have a friend that is sending me videos from their gig at Barcelona. i'm really mad. now i can't stop listening to them.

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28YFesvcLS8

dig that

yeah that's great - excited for the new album

Sounds a little like the Kevin Devine album Lacey produced (not a bad thing)

fucking fantastic

context for anyone unfamiliar: in 2006, before devil and god came out, brand new's initial demos for the album were leaked; they included several songs that never appeared on any brand new record. jesse lacey was very angry about it at the time and iirc deliberately avoided properly recording the songs that leaked, so only "sowing season" and "luca" made it to the album, with "(fork and knife)" released as a single the following year. last year they remastered the old demos and released them officially. yesterday they put out an ep of newly-recorded studio versions of three of those demos. imo these songs are amazing and i'm so happy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHcteXrBfuo

http://brandnewofficial.bandcamp.com/album/3-demos-reworked

awesome

the coda of Missing You yesssss

omg that 1996 track is deja entendu level good

i've been obsessing over "battalions" from the demos record a lot lately & kinda wish they'd remade that, but it got turned into "archers" on devil & god, which is phenomenal, so i guess it wouldn't make sense

1996 is def the big prize here

they're all great tho, "brother's song" sadly remains relevant.

my only worry inre: these is that doing this kind of tinkering might keep them from finishing the final album (if it comes out at all if def will be final; they're selling t-shirts that read BRAND NEW 2000-2018 on them). they've clearly still got it, the hooks on "i am a nightmare" are some of the best they've ever written, and "mene" and "sealed to me" are great too.

they're putting out a single with "mene" and "out of range" too

real "emptying the vault before we release a new album and break up" vibe

heh i totally remember these songs, high school years coming back hard

xp agree re: breakup vibes. i'm wondering if they'll pull a radiohead and stuff the completed older songs on the album or if it'll be new-new stuff only

can't get over how good the reworked demos sound. tbh I doubt they'll be on the new album, or at least I really hope they won't be, the songs are ten years old ffs

the full set of 2006 demos are on spotify btw. i remember being obsessed with them around the time they leaked, but i'm pretty shocked at how well they've held up. this is really good stuff

I've heard that "three cheers" chorus before, has it been a part of their live sets?

oh yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsKocqfHL7I

i am the watch you always wear but you forget to wind

one day in the future there will be a new brand new album and d*nald tr*mp will be dead

no one is allowed to bump this thread again until there is news of at least one of those things happening

NEW! ALBUM! IN! OCTOBER! http://www.procrastinatemusictraitors.com/

AAAAAAH

also many thanks brad for honoring my request!!

fuck a 45$ plus shipping price tag though

holy shit i hope this means a TOUR

what's the very best Brand New album for someone who likes melody + guitars

all of them? deja entendu maybe?

that or _tdagarim_, i sense the majority here would recommend the latter first

either of the middle two are what you want. i'd maybe recommend deja over devil bc of your emphasis on "melody"

as far as i can tell

1. this album is called science fiction
2. it's out there

!!!!!

what a day

I know everyone is going to say this but this sounds like the actual Devil and God followup so far, holy shiiiiiii

the old stuff is good for what it is (music for kids) but it's not something i can really imagine listening to all the time anymore

fwiw i understand why you and presumably lacey feel this way but i think deja entendu continues to contain some of their most direct, affecting + memorable work. but i never think that "music for kids" is necessarily a limitation on popular music (i still listen to pet sounds too)

there were signs all over the venue when you entered that said that there would be no crowd surfing at the show and anyone who crowd surfed would get ejected. when the concert started the band played the first few songs behind a gate/fence that spanned the entire length of the stage like they were in jail. i was thinking "oh my god he is so freaked out about the audience he is playing behind a gate now" but it lifted after the first few songs i felt whew

sort of feel like if i were a band of brand new's popularity i'd be performing behind something bulletproof

Jesse Lacey threw his guitar last night. What an icon pic.twitter.com/gqCdo9Y1Ud

— Thiqq Goth GF (@valisneckdeep) October 22, 2017

Lets all go and meet our maker
Won't matter whose side you're on
We're so afraid, I prayed and prayed
When God told me to love the bomb
https://i.imgur.com/fwoNXZm.jpg

so this is looking pretty much like my aoty and unlikely to be dethroned

same

yep

Not there yet but I might have to resign to the fact that come December, this will be true for me as well. Pacing in that direction.

*dreams of Brand New winning the EOY poll*

Will def be a top 5

my new favorite part of this album is the solo in “137”

The guitar solo in "137" is the most glorious musical moment of 2017.

― ArchCarrier, Friday, October 6, 2017 11:47 AM (four weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah that whole song is great but I'm always waiting for that bit.

The album is currently my 2nd-favourite of the year behind Paramore.

both will be in my top 5 as well for sure

so

https://www.facebook.com/briankeithdiaz/posts/10155933792623552

pete wentz prob has an upcoming reckoning too

yeahhhh

sigh

i was aware jesse was an asshole for 1000 years but not that much of one

Brand New is cancelled and I'm here to remind you that you can't separate the art from the artist. pic.twitter.com/aa8SmJkA4z

— Autumn Lavis (@AutumnLavis) November 10, 2017

oh that's contained in the facebook thread. sorry.

lesser light

i like the music but this guy wears patagonia hats ppl

well damn :/

i’ve been flagging more posts than usual today

it’s almost always some asshole making a joke out of sexual assault

https://www.facebook.com/BrandNew/posts/10155923794753023

jesse basically admits to it without actually addressing it

don't recommend the comments

Felt like some of the powers that be were dragging their feet about permanently writing these guys off, but those new allegations should be the nail in the coffin. Truly horrific.

There was some other Warped Tour band a few years back accused of some similar grooming, right? Can't remember which one they were, but it makes me wonder if this is a trend that's particularly common in this scene. Seems like a toxic confluence of technology/fan access + song subject matter perfect for drawing/earning the trust and sympathies of vulnerable young fans. It recasts the band's entire discography in a sinister light, knowing that their albums were effectively a trap used to lure victims.

It recasts the band's entire discography in a sinister light, knowing that their albums were effectively a trap used to lure victims.

i think this is a weird conclusion to arrive at but it sure is popular

anyway yes this band is basically dead to me

http://flavorwire.com/528083/pop-punk-keeps-forgiving-sexual-harassers-to-the-detriment-of-its-teen-girl-fanbase

Great piece. Also this one from 2015 hints at how vast the scope of the problem is: https://medium.com/cuepoint/warped-behavior-sexual-violence-on-tour-8ad218d50bc9

Gotta imagine there's a reckoning coming. How many dozens of bands must have known this stuff went on and turned a blind eye to it?

i was once at a green day show when i was about 15, i was getting a ride home from these friends of a friend's older brother and they were huge nerds who wanted to stay and meet the band afterwards, which i wasn't really interested in but they were my ride home. tre cool (who would've been late 20s at the time) spent the whole time trying to convince a 15/16 year old girl to get on the tour bus with him, and pulled his cock out at some stage with some really flimsy pretext.

jesus fucking christ

When I was in university taking a shuttle bus between campuses, I randomly overheard a girl (roughly my age at the time so I'd say 18-20) talking about how she'd had sex with someone from GD after a show. That's pretty second-hand, obviously, but it's always stayed with me.

Have other band members responded yet?

Not that I've seen.

I finally brought myself to read the Pitchfork piece and jfc

If anyone ever wants to write a piece about #MeToo and artist fandom, which someone probably should, they'd do well to start with the wildly divergent (and still-unraveling) reactions on the Brand New subreddit.

can't bring myself to read that tbh. used to be a part of the brand new online fan community as a teenager and those people are nuts

sort of hate myself for loving this record as much as I do. but maybe that's what brand new's music is about, and why it speaks to me so much -- so much of it deals in guilt, self-loathing...it feels very earned.

October 2018? hell yeah