Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy (novel, miniseries, and forthcoming film to be directed by Tomas Alfredson)

There's been occasional talk of Smiley's People being a possibility forAlfredson/Oldman, but it just occurred to me that if they did Honourable Schoolboy they might be able to get some of that sweet sweet China money. Though perhaps not, considering the content.

I'd really like to see them do Smiley's People - thought the TV series was a dreadful hash, and the book ponderous. feel the virtues the film of TTSS wd be double with SP.

Honourable Schoolboy is such an odd book with a central character i really do not like very much, but would be interesting to see Stephen Graham reprizing the role, he might make it quite a different take

it's certainly the weakest of the Smiley trilogy, though I have problems with Le Carre's style generally anyway. The adaptations are way better, though of course comparisons between media are invidious.

"Spoke in a confiding, upper-class bellow"

ha otm

in some ways this would have been a better backstory for bane

― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Saturday, August 4, 2012 11:54 AM (11 months ago) Bookmark

me otm

Bbc 4 rerunning this. Missed til now but double header 6 and 7 on just there. Thats the night sorted.

So fuckin good, must rewatch entire over xmas

the perfect winter watch with a stiff one in hand

a drink i mean

*smiley face*
{=_=}

It is seven hours of drinking hard spirits from seemingly randomly sourced containers, another reason its a christmas watch imo

loved this re-run despite its imperfection and now i've traded the last 3 eps for Chelsea-Sunderland and a Bayern Munich training exercise :/

Imperfection!

i dunno if you've read the book but having watched the first 4 eps of this for the first time in forever i feel like it had flaws like the movie but different flaws - the whole Ricky Tarr ep is pretty tacky here

Agreed its def a part the movie does much better, but mainly cos hywel bennett is so fuckin funny looking maybe

Esterhazy is amazing on rewatch.

i think Hywel Bennett is way cool mostly - there's a def 70s dramarama feel to some of the scripting acting that you'd reject in say I Claudius but they haven't completely got away from theatre school yet

i mean fuck it, it's still excellent, these are quibbles. but some of the pacing has surprised me

sorry i meant "Hywel Bennett is way cool mostly in his career but not really in this"

the perfect winter watch with a stiff one in hand

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:05 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I literally snickered when I read this

did u obtain much stiff one

i think his characterization of ricky tarr is a bit too smug in places, hardy got the right balance of cocky followed by desperate and lost. but the material overcomes it and i think his episode at the end packs a pretty strong punch.

real mature btw s1ocki, you'll note i subsequently adjusted my post

;-)

your version of Tarr = fair. i'm definitely not trying to run down the TV version, it's just been an interesting experience having not watched it since i was a kid compared to having read the book and watched the movie in the last 2 years

Yeah i just meant in this re hywel

I reject all the act8ng in i claudius but id reconsider did you put a strong word on it

when i rewatched Claudius as an adult i was thrown by how camp and OTT it seems at first, but i think there's a few things happening there - it's meant to be theatrical and we're used to people using TV as TV - not a defence as such but worth remembering; the whole story is a sick soap opera thru every iteration, TV and Graves and Suetonius are satirising the fuck out of the protagonatists; once you get used to the ripeness of the style there's a load of fantastic moments, especially jokes and surprise subtlety in the acting. you have to take it on its own terms and eventually it shd click, but if not maybe read the books first cos they do very similar tricks but without the Rep shtick

Ill have a beastly time convincing herself but

i'm a big believer in "if it's not happening then fuck it" but

Nah tbh it was kneejerk from us both based on channel hop glimpse

Saw the Beeb adaptation on DVD about five years ago and love it like most however just hated how it wasn't one-a-week re-screen.

Missed it last night as I was at a gig (and was considering cutting off the 2nd half to watch this), loved the EP with Smiley and Jim walking around fields and standing in hotel rooms as Jim recounts his ordeal in Czecho. Really it might be a long time before we see anybody put any faith in the audience being asked to sit watching two guys walking around a field for 10 mins, never mind 45.

Also love the end credits music so much. Do stay until that is finished with.

I think I watched the DVD over two nights but its savagery not to have as a one EP a week thing on TV, even if it is so much hogwash I was all pissed off at this halfway house scheduling. How much better it would've been to see the last EP on xmas eve? You know I'm right.

absolutely right. i think it's a plot to make me fork out for the DVD

I could praps save you the trouble wink wink

thanks dude but i'll hang on for now too much Xmas nonsense to think about this week

I got my DVD out from the library for a v tiny fee *flicks V-sign at those capitalist BBC fuckers*

Only realised the other day that Arthur Hopcraft not only adapted TTSS, but also wrote The Football Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyxDVCb3ky4

o_O

fuck everything

so Caine turns out to be the villain because he can't bear to let oiks join his gang

but come come the relief when I realised firth wasn't playing smiley

i am going to be charitable and acknowledge that i am not the target audience for this film

altho wdn't it be funny to acquire the rights to one of Le Carre's books and do that to it?

I honestly thought at first that it was a reboot of The Spy Who Came In From The Cold

hopefully mark strong and colin firth will have a healthier relationship in this flick than in ttss

They had the healthiest relationship in TTSS! and, in the end, the most honest one.

would be great if the kid turned out to be a total jackass

or bill haydon

exactly.

i dont get why people are so negative these days i get you want good entertainment but wait till the reviews and the movie ACTUALLY come out smh.... people are just tooo negative its the trailer not every trailers does the movie justice it could be a lot better than expected truth be told the only thing to me that could bring the movie down would an over done cheesy romance that came out the blue im not a fan of those anymore they drag the story down but other than that give it a chance. i know its all opinion and subjective but it seems it could be good.

^^^ pvmic