Sex and the City — Classic or Dud

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Emily Nussbaum on the fashionable running-down of the show:

Although the show’s first season is its slightest, it swiftly establishes a bold mixture of moods—fizzy and sour, blunt and arch—and shifts between satirical and sincere modes of storytelling. (It’s not even especially dated: though the show has gained a reputation for over-the-top absurdity, I can tell you that these night clubs and fashion shows do exist—maybe even more so now that Manhattan has become a gated island for the wealthy.)

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/television/2013/07/29/130729crte_television_nussbaum

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 July 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link

speechless

surm, Monday, 22 July 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link

pretty much OTM this piece, i came here to post it! i like this;

The show’s basic value system aligns with Carrie: romantic, second-wave, libertine. But “Sex and the City” ’s real strength was its willingness not to stack the deck: it let every side make a case, so that complexity carried the day. When Carrie and Aidan break up, they are both right. When Miranda and Carrie argue about her move to Paris, they are both right. The show’s style could be brittle, but its substance was flexible, in a way that made the series feel peculiarly broad-ranging, covering so much ground, so fleetly, that it became easy to take it for granted.

piscesx, Monday, 22 July 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link

surm, what left ya speechless?

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 July 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link

Yeah good piece. She has a point about the genuine character growth

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 July 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link

What I wouldnt give to hear richard nixon expounding on this show

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 July 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link

"And these women... they just fuck like a buncha streetwalkers..."

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

rewatching this in dribs and drabs as I do every few years and God, season 4 is really the worst as a whole. Though there are some moments I really like (Carrie and Big dancing to Moon River until the record starts skipping, Trey doing the photo shoot with Charlotte, the Lucy Liu cameo!) but Carrie is INSUFFERABLE this season. There’s some great fashion but so, so, so much cringe. What the fuck was Samantha at giving Richard that hideous heart print? Has Carrie ever been more loathsome than when she’s browbeating Charlotte to lend her money for her deposit? Also, am I supposed to believe Carrie would start working at Vogue and not knock a column about accessories out of the park? She spent a deposit’s worth of cash on shoes alone!

hyds (gyac), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:59 (four years ago) link

eleven months pass...

oh no

HBO Max has officially revived #SexAndTheCity https://t.co/st3CaB9MQf pic.twitter.com/IfjgbSkRTI

— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) January 10, 2021



Fellow original star Kim Cattrall (Samantha) is not involved in the HBO Max incarnation. The actress has openly feuded with Parker and, more in October 2017, was vocal about seeing her part being recast in a bid to improve the original comedy's inclusivity.

I bet they killed her off. 😞

lol
For his part, creator Star told The Hollywood Reporter in October that he had no interest in returning to the series today. "I May Destroy You is the Sex and the City for now," he said as part of a Creative Space interview pegged to his Netflix comedy Emily in Paris. "Girls was the Sex and the City for its moment. I wouldn't be doing Sex and the City today. Twenty years ago, I knew those people that I was writing about. I understood the time and I understood the characters and also what needed to be said."

scampish inquisition (gyac), Sunday, 10 January 2021 23:39 (three years ago) link

Continuing my commitment to being the only person posting itt,

I find it fascinating that Sex and the City - a show about a bunch of white women making jokes and shagging - is considered embarrassingly retro and borderline offensive, but The Sopranos - a show about a bunch of white men killing each other -is considered an untouchable classic

— Hadley Freeman (@HadleyFreeman) January 12, 2021



I’ve never seen The Sopranos but even I know that’s a shitty and reductive take - and it’s a shitty and reductive take about SATC too. Some parts of SATC have really not aged well - Carrie raging at Charlotte for not selling her engagement ring to help Carrie out with her deposit would come across even worse than it did at the time, the racism, the aggressively ‘apolitical’ small c conservatism - and some are still great. I love every moment the show acknowledges, either through narratives or telling us, that Carrie is full of shit, and the later seasons are really lacking in that regard.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 10:40 (three years ago) link

One reason why Sopranos is an untouchable classic compared to SATC us that it's not coming back

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 10:50 (three years ago) link

there is no take so shitty it cannot be topped by a shittier one

i think my hell would be having to watch people like this discuss art pic.twitter.com/flUwzdyHYK

— Shaun (@shaun_vids) January 12, 2021

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 10:59 (three years ago) link

which SATC character blacked up ?

marg bar āmrikā (||||||||), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:00 (three years ago) link

One reason why Sopranos is an untouchable classic compared to SATC us that it's not coming back

The Many Saints of Newark is an upcoming American crime drama film directed by Alan Taylor and written by David Chase and Lawrence Konner as a prequel to Chase's HBO crime drama series The Sopranos.

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:04 (three years ago) link

Baddiel's two fave bands is Morrissey and Al Jolson

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:05 (three years ago) link

Oh jfc, every time the series had black characters in it it was so bad

scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:05 (three years ago) link

BG - that's not the same as coming back ;-)

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:15 (three years ago) link

New title for memoir: Men Explain Sex and the City to Me

— Hadley Freeman (@HadleyFreeman) January 12, 2021

Gulag middle-class women already

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link

sexist. why not middle class men as well?

as#d,.F:ddz;,c#,;;,;,;,sdf' (Left), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 14:11 (three years ago) link

Glad to know only men have reductive takes on the show. Emily Nussbaum actually wrote a good piece about the show’s retrospective standing back in 2013, which answers the question of the inane original tweet and then some.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link

Nah just the women. Mao Zedong does not give a shit about SATC, it's in the red book xp

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 14:15 (three years ago) link

The most famous such conversation took place four episodes in, after Charlotte’s boyfriend asked her to have anal sex. The friends pile into a cab for a raucous debate about whether her choice is about power-exchange (Miranda) or about finding a fun new hole (Samantha). “I’m not a hole!” Charlotte protests, and they hit a pothole. “What was that?” Charlotte asks. “A preview,” Miranda and Samantha say in unison, and burst out laughing.

Lol this was so funny, and ofc reads as extremely quaint in 2021.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 14:21 (three years ago) link

SATC is Entourage for women

Fenners' Pen (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link

Left...otm

I watched the first episode of Sex and the City thinking it would be about sort of erotic psychogeography

— Rob Palk (@robpalkwriter) January 12, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link


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