unless it's Amaj7/G#
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 July 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link
(Man, Plant's voice on II.)
(was still really powerful and full-bodied was what I meant, to digress. I wish he still sang like that when Page's end of things got really great on IV/HotH/PG.)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 July 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link
OK, back on track now
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 July 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
Whoop, you're right about Adele. In my head I was confusing the piano intro with that of Jewel's "Foolish Games"
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 21 July 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link
Funny, I have a little riff I made up with this a few years ago (in D) and I've been trying to figure out which song I stole it from. But I think it's not so much that I stole as it sounds like a lot of other things. It's for sure one of the easiest things a novice guitarist can do to sound like they know something.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 21 July 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link
Oh, that's the first example someone's given of this in a minor key!xpost
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 July 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link
Hm, I was honestly just shooting the shit when I started this thread but I'm starting to wonder if there's a paper to be written here. ILX would get any due credit if I ever actually write something, obv.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 July 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
Ha, I'm listening to Wilco and "One Sunday Morning (Song for Jane Smiley's Boyfriend)" does this in F with a ^4-^3-^2-^1 line in the highest voice (^2-^3-^4-^3-^2-^1 if you consider the whole riff).
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 July 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link
I don't know if that actually counts as suspended chords though because he's basically just playing that melodic line with the harmony being implied.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 July 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
"wicked little town" from "hedwig and the angry inch"
(which makes two of these that the breeders covered, along with "so sad about us.")
― fact checking cuz, Sunday, 21 July 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
Probably too easy to just find examples ^4-^3-^2-^1 over the tonic in the bass, although there's no real functional difference.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 July 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
the other one guitarist/songwriters like a lot is descending from the major triad, to major seventh to dominant seventh chord, e.g. the verse in strawberry fields forever or Something (which also features the rarer minor chord version)
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Sunday, 21 July 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
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Fucking hell, it's like you just read my mind... was just thinking this!
― I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Sunday, 21 July 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
I call it the 'Can't Take My Eyes Off You' progression because that's where I first remember hearing it.
I don't think "Stairway to Heaven" does this
No, but a sus2-triad-sus4 progression is used in the breakdown before the solo.
― Vast Halo, Sunday, 21 July 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
"Here's Where You Belong" by The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band http://youtu.be/-AXjkHuYxXA
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 21 July 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
Hmmmmm. I dunno, Sund4r, this is too common a musical device to really derive any interesting conclusions, imo.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 21 July 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
Tend to agree with with that. Sorry, Sund4r.
― Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 July 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
You're probably right. I like to feel like I'm not just wasting time though.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 July 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link
Talking about wasting time, I once figured out how to play the So Sad About Us progression in G so I could put in the truck driver key change up to A
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 22 July 2013 10:10 (ten years ago) link
Me I'm interested in songs that have changeable 4ths. #4 on the verses, then hit a solid IV-chord on the choruses. Most on-the-nose example is Grizzly Bear "Two Weeks". Or chorus of "This guy's in love with you", where the introduction of the #4 (as a secondary dominant) feels like the sun coming out. Or XTC "Travels in Nihilon", where it sounds like the end of the world.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 July 2013 11:07 (ten years ago) link
I think You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory by Johnny Thunders does this.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 22 July 2013 11:12 (ten years ago) link
This being the thread title, not flamboyant goon tie included's example.
I was sure I remembered Frank Zappa saying something about this in 'The Real Frank Zappa Book" and yes, I knew I could rely on some Zappa obsessive somewhere on the net to have quoted it, so I didn't have to go and dig the damn thing from the back of the bookcase...
Doesn't he do it, as a poke at folk rock, on a song on "We're Only In It For the Money"? Possibly "Flower Punk"? I'd have to check, but the the inspiration might well be this:
That reminds me that some bands did this on "Hey Joe." The Love version, for example.
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 22 July 2013 11:50 (ten years ago) link
Or a variation of that, Em - Em/M7 - Em7 - Em6, eg the "bossa nova" sections of the Beatles' "I Want You (She's So Heavy)." Aimee Mann uses this one a lot.
― it itches like a porky pine sitting on your dick (Phil D.), Monday, 22 July 2013 12:10 (ten years ago) link
Brass in PocketAll I want is you
― 29 facepalms, Monday, 22 July 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
"Brass in Pocket" is triad-sus2-sus4-triad.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 22 July 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
On one listen, I think the figure in "All I Want Is You" is more just vacillation between the triad and sus2 before the root itself changes.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 22 July 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link
REM - "Half A World Away" (I think... might be triad-sus4-triad-sus2 though?)
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link
Patience - GnR
― More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
John Lennon - "Woman" (the intro) first example that pops into my head. And yes, this chord pattern does seem more rare in songs from the last 15 years or so, at least in pop-oriented stuff.
― Lee626, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link
"Carnival of Sorts" on A in the chorus, but I think he's just playing the notes (4-3-2-1).
ditto -- in a much more pronounced way -- on the A turnaround between the chorus and verse of "don't go back to rockville."
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link
"Money Changes Everything" has this, I believe. Also Beefheart's "Call On Me" and several songs by the Beau Brummels ("Sad Little Girl", "I Want You", "Don't Talk To Strangers", maybe more.)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 25 July 2013 08:30 (ten years ago) link
The Beatles - "Anytime at All" (after the chorus)
― timellison, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
"American Pie"
― timellison, Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
The Doors "Love Street" in a little turn before it modulates at 2:08.
― timellison, Monday, 5 March 2018 00:56 (six years ago) link
The "hold on" section of the bridge in "Ballad of El Goodo" is written around this, including the vocal melody. Nice to run into our old friend in an essential, rather than embellishing, role.
― mick signals, Monday, 5 March 2018 01:34 (six years ago) link
Wire, "French Film Blurred"
Following the line, "On the day the vibrations will shake your bones".
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Monday, 5 March 2018 10:28 (six years ago) link
opening day, that is
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Monday, 5 March 2018 10:29 (six years ago) link
'VCR' by the XX does this around the C triad on all the verses.
― campreverb, Monday, 5 March 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link
Velvet Underground, "I'm Set Free".
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Monday, 5 March 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link
Surprised The Beatles - "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" hasn't been mentioned.
Also I think Pearl Jam - "Down" qualifies.
― carrotless, turnip-pocketed (fionnland), Monday, 5 March 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link
sugar "if i can't change your mind" (on the C triad on intro and verses)
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 02:07 (six years ago) link
It comes up in Taylor Swift's "I'm Only Me When I'm With You" here, which has to be one of the most recent appearances in a popular song.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 02:15 (six years ago) link
I'm surprised "Hide Your Love Away" didn't come up earlier too! "Love Street" and Sugar = good catches.
Wow, good one.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 02:41 (six years ago) link
I haven't listened to the third VU album in a long time. I forgot about this one.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 02:51 (six years ago) link
We missed "Shaking Through" in the R.E.M. accounting!
― timellison, Friday, 6 April 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
David Bowie - "Kooks" almost does this but just D to Dsus4
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link
Bruce Springsteen - Brilliant Disguise
― Ρεμπετολογια, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link
The Monkees - You Told Me
― timellison, Saturday, 23 February 2019 16:57 (five years ago) link